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Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ

With Purim just past and Passover cleaning looming ahead, I'm looking to read stories with Jewish characters. Not ones you can only tell are Jewish because the author tagged them as such, mind you, but characters identifiable as culturally Jewish. The only story on SOL I know of that fits the bill is Revenge of the Nerd.

Can anyone point me to others?

Dinsdale ๐Ÿšซ
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@Quasirandom

You could try https://storiesonline.net/s/67165/rejuvenated by https://storiesonline.net/a/Gramps, can't think of any others offhand.
Looking at the stuff I have downloaded, https://storiesonline.net/a/HandyMan only has one story here but that is - in a low-key fashion - from a Jewish perspective. It may be below your cultural threshold.

Replies:   Quasirandom  Quasirandom
Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ

@Dinsdale

Thanks - I'll check those out.

Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ

@Dinsdale

Okay, it took me longer than it ought to have to get to it, but Rejuvenated was exactly what I was looking for. Thanks again!

Replies:   joyR  Dinsdale
joyR ๐Ÿšซ

@Quasirandom

Rejuvenated was exactly what I was looking for.

Given the topic I hope you pronounce it Rejewvenated.

:)

Replies:   Quasirandom
Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ

@joyR

Since that's nothing like what it sounds like with either a Yiddish or an Israeli accent, that would be a No.

Now hold still while I whap you with this whole whitefish.

Dinsdale ๐Ÿšซ

@Quasirandom

You're welcome, your requirements and that story seemed like a match made in Valhalla (or cross-cultural equivalent).
I don't know how many times during the lifetime of this thread I felt like posting a link along these lines. Jewish characters indeed.

Replies:   Quasirandom
Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ

@Dinsdale

I was amazed no one did. Or, not until now.

bk69 ๐Ÿšซ

@Quasirandom

It's been archived, but the Jewish status of (at least) one character was significant in Marsh Alien's Stitch in Time.

Replies:   Quasirandom
Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ

@bk69

I've got that in my TBR pile โ€” I'll bump that up to the top. Thanks.

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bk69 ๐Ÿšซ

@Quasirandom

There's also the Jewish/Oriental girl in The Omega Path, who IIRC breaks out in Yiddish occasionally.

StarFleet Carl ๐Ÿšซ

@Quasirandom

Jewish

One of Cal's girlfriends is Jewish, but she's a secondary character, not the main one.

https://storiesonline.net/s/21974/a-true-history-arrival

Dinsdale ๐Ÿšซ

@Quasirandom

There are any number of stories here containing Jewish characters but I think the OP is looking for something from a Jewish perspective, not written by an outsider.

Replies:   Quasirandom
Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ
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@Dinsdale

Preferably from enough of an insider perspective to get it right, at any rate. Speaking as the goy in an otherwise Jewish household, I'm not exactly authentic myself.

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Crumbly Writer ๐Ÿšซ

@Quasirandom

I'm not exactly authentic myself

Few of us are, regardless of our particular religious, social, ethnic grouping or even families.

Generally, being 'authentic' is overrated, as that was the main complaint of Hitler and Goebbels. No matter how long you've been included, you're always being challenged to 'prove' that you actually belong.

hiltonls16 ๐Ÿšซ

@Quasirandom

There are a couple of Jewish families in Oyster50's Community stories.

Replies:   Quasirandom
Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ

@hiltonls16

Ah โ€” hadn't gotten far enough into that to run across those. Thanks.

Mushroom ๐Ÿšซ

@Quasirandom

The main character in one of my stories is Jewish.

https://storiesonline.net/s/18982/bohica

And it actually plays a fairly major part of the story.

And in "Country Boy, City Girl", the main character's best friend is Jewish.

https://storiesonline.net/s/17259/country-boy-city-girl

Now I admit, not being Jewish myself I do write them as an "outsider". But for Christina Green in Bohica, it is actually a major part of her identity. Something that even her alter-ego recognizes before she herself does. With the story ending with her returning to the Synagogue for the first time in over 5 years.

Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ

@Mushroom

Holly is, actually, my favorite character of CBCG. Will check out Bohica.

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Mushroom ๐Ÿšซ
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@Quasirandom

Holly is, actually, my favorite character of CBCG. Will check out Bohica.

Thank you, she was one of mine, also. And like the girl she was lightly patterned after in real life, a "Modern Jew", who rightfully saw herself as just anybody else, but at the same time treasured her heritage.

Somebody who could revel in her background, and even have some fun with it. But also took it seriously, which is ultimately why when looking it should have been obvious that her and Pete would never have ended up together. She did date Gentiles, but her faith ultimately was important enough to her that she would likely have never married somebody that was not Jewish.

And one thing about my stories, is that for a long time I actually put in almost nothing indicating such things as "race". Simply because to me, it was unimportant. Imagine my characters as any race you want, does not matter to me.

Then, I went almost the opposite way. It came when writing an now lost story (written as a diary), in which the main character throughout the narration said the name of a character as "Tom When". Only in an afterward (written by his daughter) correcting it and saying it was actually "Thom Nguyen". And I always wondered what somebody would think, only at the end realizing that one of the more important minor characters was Vietnamese.

Which I was inspired to do actually by Starship Troopers. It still amazes me that even most who read the book never realize that Johnny Ricco is Pilipino. Because it is only mentioned in passing in one of the very last paragraphs of the book.

And since then, I strive to make most of my stories "multi-cultural". Not from any political sense, but simply because to me, we are ALL "Americans" (or "ALL people" if you are not from the US), and such things really do not matter at all.

helmut_meukel ๐Ÿšซ

@Mushroom

But for Christina Green in Bohica, it is actually a major part of her identity.

Haven't read the story, that lets me wonder why Jewish parents would name their daughter Christina.

HM.

Replies:   Quasirandom  Mushroom
Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ

@helmut_meukel

The first one I met, I did a double-take myself.

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Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Quasirandom

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2008/12/was-jesus-a-common-name-back-when-he-was-alive.html

Many people shared the name. Christ's given name, commonly Romanized as Yeshua, was quite common in first-century Galilee. (Jesus comes from the transliteration of Yeshua into Greek and then English.) Archaeologists have unearthed the tombs of 71 Yeshuas from the period of Jesus' death.

It wouldn't surprise me at all to find out that the names Christian and Christina actually had origins that predate the Christian religion.

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Mushroom ๐Ÿšซ
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@Dominions Son

It wouldn't surprise me at all to find out that the names Christian and Christina actually had origins that predate the Christian religion.

It does.

It must be remembered, that "Christ" itself is a Greek iteration of the Hebrew word "To anoint", or "messiah". It gained popularity in Greece after it became Christianized, but the name actually existed in earlier forms in Egypt.

And also, the name was very popular in Europe among the Jewish communities, especially in Sweden during the 17th century. That is because Queen Christina of Sweden (R - 1632-1654) essentially pressured Pope Clement X to forbid the chasing and harassment of Jews. And also refused to allow any persecution of Jews in any lands she controlled (or had influence over).

A Kingdom which during that time covered parts of what is now Russia, Germany, Estonia, Latvia, Poland, Finland, Norway, and all of Denmark. And the name continued on among many families. And another common name from that region and era for both first and last names was Kristal. Also a name very easily anglicized to Christine.

And for Yeshua, that today mostly translates to Joshua. Many old Coptic texts list him as Yeshua Ben Yosef or Yeshua Bar Yosef (Joshua son of Joseph).

When reading the New Testament, it must be realized that a lot of names were likely fictitious and of symbolic importance as well.

Most know of Barabbas, but most likely do not know that the name literally translates to "bar Abba", or "Son of the Father".

Many of the names from the New Testament are quite revealing, when translated into Hebrew, Aramaic, or era versions of Latin.

Mushroom ๐Ÿšซ

@helmut_meukel

Haven't read the story, that lets me wonder why Jewish parents would name their daughter Christina.

Most "Modern Jews" in the US largely follow their faith, but also see themselves as "American", and Jewish as faith and not actual heritage as most think of it.

Living in LA, I saw this a great many times. Many I knew almost never gave any indication they were Jewish. And like any other American, might name their children not for faith reasons, but in honor of a friend.

Tom D ๐Ÿšซ

@Quasirandom

One of the characters in Al Steiner's Intemperance series is Jewish and another converts to Judaism to marry her.

Radagast ๐Ÿšซ
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@Quasirandom

PT Brainum's John the Genius has Jewish characters.

https://storiesonline.net/s/19376/perfect-choices-a-john

Radagast ๐Ÿšซ

@Quasirandom

Argon has the daughter of Jews from WWII in love with the nephew of a Nazi. https://storiesonline.net/s/66695/sex-lies-and-pcr

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Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ
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@Radagast

Ho boy, that could be interesting or a disaster. Adding to the pile to find out. Thanks.

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Argon ๐Ÿšซ

@Quasirandom

While you are at it: Pelle the Collier is friends and partners with a Jewish money lender and his daughter, set in ~14th century Germany.
https://storiesonline.net/s/70752/pelle-the-collier

Replies:   Radagast  Quasirandom
Radagast ๐Ÿšซ

@Argon

And a good story too. I re-read it once a year.

Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ

@Argon

I already have the start of that series in my reading queueโ€”I'll bump that one up (though not till I finish bounding through your Carter-affiliated adventures).

richardshagrin ๐Ÿšซ

@Quasirandom

https://storiesonline.net/s/21714/the-way-of-war by Robin Lane. It is up for a clitorides award for long story. About half of it involves fighting in Israel when it first was established. The hero's wife and father-in-law are Jews, at least ethnically.

Replies:   Quasirandom
Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ

@richardshagrin

That looks likely to fit the bill pretty darn well. Thanks!

Radagast ๐Ÿšซ

@Quasirandom

https://storiesonline.net/s/14372/the-bar-mitzvah
Title sounds like it fits your needs. I haven't read it.

Replies:   Quasirandom  LonelyDad
Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ

@Radagast

That does look like it fits the bill. Thanks.

LonelyDad ๐Ÿšซ
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@Radagast

Short and with a twist, but it does teach a life lesson.

Radagast ๐Ÿšซ

@Quasirandom

https://storiesonline.net/s/16175/the-billionaire-life by Tom Frost has a Jewish supporting character. Raised on a kibbutz, his parents sent him to the USA, but he wants to return to join the IDF.

steeltiger ๐Ÿšซ

@Quasirandom

IIRC, several of Levi Charon's MC's are Jewish.

Replies:   Quasirandom
Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ

@steeltiger

Ah โ€” those look worth sifting through. Thanks!

Mushroom ๐Ÿšซ
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@Quasirandom

I actually wrote one several months ago that I forgot about until I reread it today.

https://storiesonline.net/s/24636/honey-silver-gets-a

Honey Silver Gets A Contract is a kind of sequel to Country Boy, but only features a few characters from that in cameo roles. And was actually written in homage to many of the "Golden Age" porn performers.

Gals like Nina Hartley, Ona Zee, Gloria Leonard, Georgina Spelvin, and others were popular Jewish actresses of the era.

And of course, Jewish men seemed to dominate the industry. Jamie Gillis, Ron Jeremy, Jerry Butler, Buck Adams, Harry Reems, and many more.

Radagast ๐Ÿšซ

@Quasirandom

Arise from the dead, oh thread long buried!

That incantation complete, a story about to go behind the paywall is as New York Jewish as Woody Allen, without the pedo part.

https://storiesonline.net/s/51884/a-box-of-stan
An observant daughter and apostate son meet up to bury their loved and hated father. No sex, just people being people.

Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Radagast

Arise from the dead, oh thread long buried!

Cleric attempts to banish zombie thread. :)

Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ

@Radagast

Thanks! Added to my reading queue. (We've been burying a few too many parents of late jump straight to it alas.)

Radagast ๐Ÿšซ

@Quasirandom

RichardGerald has published a Jew x Goy story since this thread was started.
https://storiesonline.net/s/26573/sugar-by

Replies:   Quasirandom
Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ

@Radagast

Thanks!

helmut_meukel ๐Ÿšซ

@Quasirandom

In dead tree, S.M. Sterling's Conquistador has groups of very different origin all living in the Commonwealth of New Virginia a parallel California where Columbus never happened.
John Rolfe, who accidentally created the Gate, invited settlers which would out of self-interest never reveal the existence of the alternate world. Starting with his war buddies (one of them a Jew) and their families and trusted friends, he later added Nazis, Afrikaners, British settlers exiled from East Africa, pied noirs from French North Africa, ...
Later a girl from the Pearlmutter family clan married a younger son of von Traupitz, the couple alienated by both family clans. While they are only secondary characters, their actions during the attempted coup helps save the Rolfes.

In Eric Flint's 1632verse Jews play a major role. Rebecca Abrabanel marries the MC Mike Stearns and her family supports the new United States the Uptimers create.

HM.

p.s. did you find the Jewish families in oyster50's Community stories?
The narrator of Community Chapter 27 is Rebekah Weismann.
Starting in chapter 16 her daughter Rachel becomes part of the Smart Girls.

Replies:   Dinsdale  Mushroom
Dinsdale ๐Ÿšซ

@helmut_meukel

The oyster50 / Community stories were mentioned in this thread (by hiltonls16) 2ยฝ years ago, admittedly he has written more in the meantime.

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helmut_meukel ๐Ÿšซ

@Dinsdale

The oyster50 / Community stories were mentioned in this thread (by hiltonls16) 2ยฝ years ago, admittedly he has written more in the meantime.

I know, but back then quasirandom had answered:

@hiltonls16
Ah โ€” hadn't gotten far enough into that to run across those. Thanks.

So I added in my post scriptum the question if he has found the occurrences in the meantime and provided where to find the first.

HM.

Mushroom ๐Ÿšซ

@helmut_meukel

Another that is somewhat similar is the Crosstime Engineer series by Leo Frankowski. Where after being sent back to 13th century Poland he rises to power and not only allows Jews to settle in his territory, he refuses any to persecute them in any way.

In fact, as they are gearing up for a war against the Mongols, many realize the advantage of a group that will not hesitate to work on a Sunday, so long as they can have from Friday night to Saturday night off. This lets them manufacture war goods 7 days a week without offending anybody over breaking religious taboos.

Marius-6 ๐Ÿšซ

@Quasirandom

I am on my phone ๐Ÿ“ฑ and having issues trying to post a link.

In my opinion there is an excellent short story: Visit to the Wailing Wall.

About several Jews, visiting Isreal from the USA, at least one of them was born in Europe, and survived the Holocaust.

Replies:   Quasirandom
Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ

@Marius-6

I'm not finding that on SOL โ€” is it elsewhere?

Replies:   Dicrostonyx
Dicrostonyx ๐Ÿšซ

@Quasirandom

I suspect Marius is referring to the story "Visiting the Western Wall With a Holocaust Survivor" (2022) by Kink Bundy.

https://storiesonline.net/s/28258/visiting-the-western-wall-with

Replies:   Quasirandom
Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ

@Dicrostonyx

Ah! Thanks.

The Outsider ๐Ÿšซ

@Quasirandom

It's been a while since I read it, so I don't remember how quickly the MC gets there, but a good portion of Demosthenes' story Resonance takes place in Israel, with Israelis playing major roles.

https://storiesonline.net/s/16084/resonance
https://storiesonline.net/a/demosthenes

Replies:   Quasirandom
Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ

@The Outsider

Thanks!

whisperclaw ๐Ÿšซ

@Quasirandom

No one has mentioned Sugar yet. It was a charming tale.

Replies:   Quasirandom
Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ
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@whisperclaw

Oo, nice one. Thanks!

Amanda's family is perfect, especially the names used in the different generations.

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