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jhnmakii2nd 🚫

Does anyone have a list of stories wherein sex is not the main focus but more on development?

I think this theme most definitely shows up in do-over stories wherein the protagonists would advance tech by leaps and bounds, i read do-over stories because i find these parts of the story very interesting.

I've probably read almost all do-over stories, like time, hindsight, etc..

Another possibility where this kind of theme would pop up would be mind control stories but it's hard finding one where the focus of the story isn't all about sex.

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Vincent Berg 🚫
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@jhnmakii2nd

There are several that fall into that category, and they're not just limited to do-over and MC stories. Generally, your best bet (for stories that focus on story development rather than sex) is to bookmark your favorite authors, and then read some of their other stories rather than searching for more Do-Over tales.

I've already listed mine in another thread, they both deal with building empires. In one, they're creating a pseudo-religious organization, in the other they're rebuilding society. Though again, my other stories fit into the 'more story than sex' category.

By the way, both these series aren't about amassing power but focus on the protagonists trying to help others. In fact, in one they try to hide the organization from others to escape detection, and in the other they spend most of their time convincing others that they're better off joining them, rather than simply parading their obvious power.

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jhnmakii2nd 🚫

@Vincent Berg

I have great fascination in this when i read mc stories or do over stories.

I feel great disappointment whenever i read any stories with interesting premise that has limitless potential be wasted purely on sex.

It's like read a mind control stories with no development only adding a new slaver every chapter.

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Ernest Bywater 🚫

@jhnmakii2nd

In my story Finding Home sex is an important part at the start of the story because I use it to show the main characters attitude to life in general and how his attitude changes, then it all but vanishes from the story - which is the bulk of the story.

https://storiesonline.net/s/66183/finding-home

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jhncanson 🚫

@Ernest Bywater

I've read your story but i kind of stopped because i felt it was too heavy on the romance part so i kind of just skipped to read the ending to kind of reassure myself.

Vincent Berg 🚫

@jhnmakii2nd

I feel great disappointment whenever i read any stories with interesting premise that has limitless potential be wasted purely on sex.

It's a problem with never ending stories, in particular. In those cases, you need to keep the story going. You can either do that by making the story increasingly extreme (the bad guys get more evil and threatening), or you pop in a new sexual conquest--usually more extreme each time.

On the other hand, if you don't focus on new sexual conquests, stories typically decrease the sexual content once a relationship is established (i.e. once the build up is completed) and the story focuses on the broader story issues.

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jhncanson 🚫

@Vincent Berg

Couldn't they somehow correlate sexual conquest with the advancement of a story??

For example in a mind control story, why waste time slaving cheerleaders when you can just do a wealthy ceo.

That would be even more interesting and could span from 5-15 chapters and therefore be more satisfying conquest.

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Dominions Son 🚫

@jhncanson

For example in a mind control story, why waste time slaving cheerleaders when you can just do a wealthy ceo.

Depends on the mind controller's motivation. Not all are out for world conquest.

A wealthy CEO would tend to be older, less attractive, and male. Why would a teen male mind controller be interested in such a target?

"That would be even more interesting and could span from 5-15 chapters and therefore be more satisfying conquest."

Actually sexual conquest could be done that way as well. Subtly altering the victim's perceptions of the mind controller over an extended period, avoiding sudden changes in behavior that can bring attention from friends and relatives of the victim or even the authorities.

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@Dominions Son

There are also stories where the main character encourages his female conquests to achieve more than they previously thought possible; the empire proceeds from the cumulative accomplishments. Sometimes this is done via mind control, sometimes through a kind of sexual liberation and encouragement. To some extent, the following all do that: Arlene and Jeff, already mentioned Fresh Start and A New Past, many of Morgan's stories, several of El Sol's stories, and Castle in the Sand (Deana Johns).

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Dominions Son 🚫

@samuelmichaels

Very true. However, the stories along those lines all involve adult males, whose motivations would be different and at least somewhat less sex focused than a teen male.

jhnmakii 🚫
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@Dominions Son

There are always exception, women ceo or rich women that aren't simply trophy wives, this is where it is vastly interesting, because mostly they have strong personalities and are much rarer than the typical 'cheerleader'.

And i don't want to sound sexist but conquering such woman are vastly more satisfying than thawing the ice princess in every story.

Ernest Bywater 🚫

@jhncanson

For example in a mind control story, why waste time slaving cheerleaders when you can just do a wealthy ceo.

Target female trust fund babies - be a good way to get girl and bank account at once.

jr88 🚫

I'm a big fan of Refusenik's stories, especially Island Mine.

https://storiesonline.net/a/Refusenik

I would also recommend A Fresh Start by rlfj and A New Past by Charlie Foxtrot if you haven't read them. They both have a fair bit of sex early, but focus more on development later.

https://storiesonline.net/s/68384/a-fresh-start
https://storiesonline.net/s/75651/a-new-past

I also really like Life with Alpha by Any Pseudonym. It does have a ton of sex, but does have advancement in the story in pretty much every chapter.

https://storiesonline.net/series/903/life-with-alpha

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jhncanson 🚫

@jr88

I've read the other two, i've seen life with alpha mentioned countless times but i kind of stay away from it.

The whole premise of it is all about the fantasy of a guy bringing anime girls to life and sex.

There's just something about it that i feel repulsive, not in a strong way, just enough to not interest me.

richardshagrin 🚫

Building the Empire is interesting. Running the Empire (being Emperor) is kind of boring. Washington the Revolutionary War General is more interesting than Washington the President. How he got to be General is even more fun. Struggle is interesting. Administration is counting paperclips.

jr88 🚫

Another good option is The Millionaire Next Door by Lazlo Zalezac.

https://storiesonline.net/s/54088/the-millionaire-next-door

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BlinkReader 🚫

@jr88

Totally agree with you - it's brilliant story.
For anyone who did not read it - please read it :)

LonelyDad 🚫

SmokingDriver has the Hindsight 20/20 trilogy, which is a do over where the MC builds a trucking empire.

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richardshagrin 🚫

@LonelyDad

One of the other characters builds a chicken and waffles empire. How about a story where the hero builds a fucking empire? Sounds like a better fit for SOL.

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Grant 🚫

@richardshagrin

How about a story where the hero builds a fucking empire?

Daze in the Valley.

OregonDucks 🚫

@jhnmakii2nd

Proeliator by John Wales
https://storiesonline.net/s/50903/proeliator

Shawn by John Wales
https://storiesonline.net/s/47139/shawn

Tandra by John Wales
https://storiesonline.net/s/41392/tandra

Time by John Wales & Joe
https://storiesonline.net/s/42181/time

Rick growing up — a series by Banadin
https://storiesonline.net/series/1162/rick-growing-up

LonelyDad 🚫

It's also a do-over, but the MC builds a trucking empire.
The 'Hindsight 20/20' series by SmokinDriver.

Ernest Bywater 🚫

@jhnmakii2nd

sejintenej 🚫

May I suggest the "Greenies / A perfect World" series of stories by Al Steiner. https://storiesonline.net/universe/214/greenies-a-perfect-world
Ken Frazier is killed in the line of duty, his body is frozen and a great great ....grand daughter revives him on Mars. This is the story of the development of Mars, it's breakaway from Earth's control and its technological development. AFAIR there could be a dozen paragraphs devoted to sex!
Scores are in the high eights and nines - worth reading (Imho)

KinkyWinks 🚫

All the stories by Catman are about building empires from small beginnings and have no sex.

Dark Colonel 🚫

I just finished my third read through (been a year or so since I read it last) and there isn't any sex content. Brief mentions of fooling around, but it's all "off-screen."

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