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solreader50 🚫

Rarely have I been so quietly amused while at the same time as being amazed at an author's ability to forecast the future.

In the final chapter of Graybyrd's Masi'shen Stranded there is a scene where the Queen (Elizabeth II) harangues the American ambassador before breaking off diplomatic relations. Although this was written in 2011 or earlier, the content of the speech is entirely appropriate to these days we live in.

I commend this tale and it's sequel to my fellow readers.

Can anyone else suggest tales where the author has successfully predicted events which actually or nearly came to pass years after the tale was published?

Replies:   Argon  REP  Radagast  NC-Retired  scotti
Argon 🚫

@solreader50

LOL, I blogged about that years ago. In my 2015 novella In Her Genes I had a villain who was a dead ringer for a certain movie mogul whose practices came to light a mere 2 years later. Of course, I unrealistically had him sentenced a half year later. Naive me!

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solreader50 🚫

@Argon

In my 2015 novella In Her Genes

Which just moved to near the top of my reading list.

Dinsdale 🚫

@Argon

I had thought that character was inspired by a couple of Jay Cantrell's stories, Learning Curves and A Flawed Diamond.

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Argon 🚫
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@Dinsdale

Learning Curves came out two years after IHG, and while A Flawed Diamond has that Hollywood party where Randi is accosted by some assholes, it was not my inspiration. The oldest files on my computer with that title are from early 2013 before Jay started posting A Flawed Diamond, which I did not read until two years later. I had not liked The Outsider, and I hesitated starting to read the sequel.
The villain, Don Brentano, was already an indirect character in Her Apple Pie, posted in 2013, and in development from 2010 onwards.
Nope, I claim this as an original story idea, growing out of the earlier Clearwater stories.

REP 🚫

@solreader50

amazed at an author's ability to forecast the future.

Fictional stories are typically written, by the author, as the narrator and characters having already lived through the events being presented. Those predictions are often referred to as foreshadowing.

What annoys me is first person stories where the main character is the narrator. The main character dies at the end of the story but continues telling the reader about what happened after their death.

In reality:

1. Dead people are not aware of what happens after their death.

2. Dead people do not communicate with the living.

Therefore, in my opinion, the ending of the story is so far from reality that the ending seems false.

A better ending would have been to create an Epilog and change to a different narrator, such as a spouse or friend.

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solreader50 🚫

@REP

Are we talking about the same story here?

In 2011, the author Graybyrd wrote a tale, a mini-novel in which certain events occurred. Neither the author nor the main character were predicting the future.

However the world has moved on in the intervening 14 years and the events described in the book with a deranged President bring the world to edge of disaster does have a certain resonance with the events we're currently living through.

And to respond directly to your points, there a number of good FICTIONAL stories where the deceased and the living interact. Indeed, that is the basis of most do-over stories.

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REP 🚫
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@solreader50

Are we talking about the same story here?

My post was general in nature, not targeted at a specific story.

If you missed it - my passage about communication between living and dead characters was about what happens in our real world making a story seem phony.

Many authors are very intelligent and aware of what is happening in the world around them. They extrapolate based on their observations to project what may happen in the future and then use the results in their stories.

Personally, I don't consider an extrapolation of what may happen to be a prediction. To me, a prediction is someone saying something will happen in the future.

Grey Wolf 🚫

@REP

I tend to agree with your comments about epilogues or other end-of-story techniques.

However :) I'm writing a do-over. My MC is quite aware of what happened after his (first) death, because that's 99.99999% of the story. There's nothing in the way of him potentially knowing what happens after another death, given that we've already canonically established that death is not 'the end', at least in some cases.

Doesn't mean I'm going to do that, and - at my current writing pace - I will probably have to be writing from the grave to get to my MC's death, but the pace may pick up in later books.

There are entire first-person stories narrated by dead people out there. It can be done. You just have to postulate that life after death is possible and there's some way for a ghostly narrator to convey their story to the living.

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REP 🚫
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@Grey Wolf

there's some way for a ghostly narrator to convey their story to the living.

I have no problem with a ghostly narrator.

In the story I was thinking about, when I wrote my earlier post, the dialog was presented as if the character was still alive. There had been no groundwork done to support the concept of a ghostly narrator or for the deceased character presenting the after-death narration and dialog.

The author handled the character as if they had never died.

Radagast 🚫

@solreader50

https://storiesonline.net/s/14860/am-i-weird
Author claims this is a true story of prescient moments in his life.

NC-Retired 🚫

@solreader50

For your consideration…

It takes a certain sort of mind and thinking to allow an individual to imagine and then write a prescient tale.

What sort of mind and thinking?

Having the ability to view an evidence based reality and not an imagined fantasy that is propagandized by any oligarch or corporate owned media.

See the fact based evidence. Then connect the data dots and imagine three scenarios. Best case, middle of best and bad, and the absolute worst logical progression that you can think of.

Then, imagine some characters caught in some scenario not of their making and have them resist/fight the oppression and corruption of the status quo.

How bloody and fatal do you want it before the 'heroes' prevail or escape to make a new life outside the evil?

Sequels…

Continued struggles and fighting or a more positive tale where the escaped fighters go on to experience positive interactions with just the 'normal' amount of human avarice and it's resulting cheat to get ahead kinda scenarios?

Dunno. Just my damned thoughts.

scotti 🚫

@solreader50

Hammingbyrd 7
Scary stuff

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