Chapter 4

After breakfast the following morning, Kat decided to make a trip to the upscale mall in a nearby city. The mounting desperation her daughters had for their father’s manhood was becoming palpable. She knew that both girls were far too inexperienced for George’s massive meat. Their little vaginas were nowhere near ready for his size. Even with George’s caring and patient nature, the girls would likely be disappointed if they tried to fit his dong inside them. Or worse, they could be injured. So, the loving and understanding mother traveled 45 minutes each way to visit the closest upscale store for lingerie and adult toys.

Though her original intent was solely to find dick-shaped toys for her daughters to use while pleasing themselves, Kat decided on impulse to add some tantalizing garments as well. “Well, since I’m already here...” she thought.

For Judy, she selected a scant but stretchy men’s thong. After browsing for quite a while, she found a bra made of similar material. Curiously, it had no bra cups at all. Instead, the combination of merely skinny straps and underwires appeared to do nothing more than accentuate the wearer’s chest treasures. Kat decided the thong and almost-bra set would work very well for her eldest daughter.

Originally, Kat had intended to find a one-piece garment for Shannon, maybe something lacy and sheer. However, because of the girl’s measurements, it was impossible to find anything that would hug her slender hips but also allow for her heavy knockers. Finally, it occurred to Kat her husband was entranced by Shannon’s appearance of innocence, and to make George mad with lust, all they needed to do was accentuate Shannon’s youthful look. So, with the help of a friendly salesgirl, she found a pair of white panties with little pink hearts on them. She paired them with a sheer white camisole top that would hang loosely over Shannon’s prodigious mounds.

As Kat imagined her daughters wearing the garb she’d selected, her own slit began to moisten.

Her primary reason for making the drive was to find two toys that could be gifted to her daughters. This would allow the teens to take control of their own progress in two ways, each with the same goal in mind. First, each girl would be able to break her own hymen. She knew that getting beyond the pain of it beforehand would allow them to more fully focus on pleasure when the time came to accept their father’s gifts. Also, the toys needed to be big enough to stretch the girls, but not so big that the girls caused themselves harm.

Kat found what she’d been looking for and added two dildos to her shopping basket. They were identical to one another. About 7 inches long and thicker than average. “Nowhere close to George’s horse dick,” thought Kat, wistfully. “But plenty big enough to get them started.”

Kat paid for the items, had them gift wrapped and bagged. Then, smiling to herself and quietly humming a charming little ditty, she made her way back home.

At home, George had been wrestling with his thoughts for much of the day. Apparently, the girls had noticed that their father rarely spent time with them anymore unless Kat was there. So, knowing Kat would be gone for quite a while, he purposely shunned his research to spend time around the girls. They joked and kidded with each other. They shared a pleasant lunch. But mostly, they lounged in the family room, watching television. For George, however, that very quickly became an exercise in discomfort for him. Since they’d been informed of the new ‘nudism in the house’ rule, both girls had been taking full advantage of it. Every time George looked up from the television, his eyes were filled with the toned, smooth flesh of his teen daughters as they displayed themselves without shame. When it happened the first time, he tried thinking unsexy thoughts; baseball, Egyptian pharaohs in order of their rule, mentally rearranging the books of the Old Testament alphabetically ... all in vain. No matter how much he tried to hide the lust his daughters were innocently fueling, his cock betrayed it. So, he put on some sweatpants to hide his erection. But that somehow made it worse because he could feel the fabric rubbing on his sensitive dong with every shift of his weight.

Then, he decided he would just hole up in his study to continue his research. That didn’t work well either because he felt guilty for ignoring the girls. And he couldn’t focus well anyway, since his cock refused to fully deflate.

When he heard Kat’s car pull into the garage, he muttered a quiet “Thank God.”

Kat entered the family room with her shopping bags and called for her husband. When he returned her call, she found him quickly. She had planned to give the girls their new presents and wondered if he wanted to watch them model the new outfits.

“Hngm,” George whimpered, “are you trying to kill me, woman?”

“What?” she responded.

“The girls have been sashaying around all day in their birthday suits. I’ve had an erection since about 10 minutes after you left!” George said. “Now, you wanna get the girls to parade themselves just for our enjoyment? Honey, there comes a point when having a hard-on gets painful.”

“Oh, sweetie...,” Kat said, “I’m sorry, I didn’t know.” She hugged and kissed him. “How about we take care of that monster right away then? Which would you prefer, having the girls model some skimpy outfits I got for them? Or watching ‘em fuck themselves silly with the dildos I’ve gonna give them?”

George shook his head, “I ... I honestly don’t know how to answer that.”

“Okay,” Kat began, “then let’s go to our bedroom and I’ll decide on the way. Either way, you know they’re gonna want to see that big dick. And you know those girls, once they see it, they won’t waste time before trying to help you with it.”

Under his breath, George said, “I was actually thinking of you and I doing something, but...”

Kat just motioned for him to follow her. Without knowing it, he had just made Kat’s decision easier.

Along the way, Kat knocked on the doors of her teen daughters and informed them that another session was about to begin. They scrambled to the hallway and followed their parents. Once they reached the master bedroom, Kat announced. “Right. So, I did some shopping and I have some gifts for you girls. But I’ve decided to give you each one present today. You’ll get the others some other day, alright?”

Both girls nodded.

“Good,” Kat reached in the bag and took out the two gift-wrapped boxes that held the fake dicks. She handed one to each of her daughters. “Here you go, girls. Go ahead, unwrap ‘em,” she urged. The girls made quick work of the wrapping paper and gasped with joy when they saw the contents.

“This is the next step in your journey, ladies,” Kat said. “These toys will help you begin to experience what it feels like to have something shaped like a penis inside you.”

“But Momma, couldn’t we...?” Shannon said while pointing toward her father.

Kat interrupted her, “Trust me, honey. Neither of you are ready to try getting your Daddy’s horse dick inside you. At this stage, you’d either get hurt by trying, or disappointed when it doesn’t fit. I’m giving you these toys so you can work your way up to that slowly,” Kat said while watching the faces of her children.

“I mean,” Judy began, “if Shannon wants to, I’d be happy to put my...”

“No thank you,” Shannon said before moving to her sister’s side. She hugged Judy and kissed her briefly before saying, “Don’t get me wrong, sis. I do want to feel your penis in me, someday. But I want my first time to be with Daddy.”

Judy nodded. “I understand. Heck, I want Daddy to be the first man in my pussy too. But if you change your mind, you know where to find me.” Judy smiled and swatted her sister’s butt playfully.

Shannon giggled and turned back to her mother. “So ... do we just ... like...?”

Kat caught on. “Take ‘em out of the boxes, girls. For today, you should only use a toy on yourself. Play with it. Touch yourself. Make yourself feel good. I got some lubricant too, but I strongly urge you to move slowly today. Use your own juices and make sure you’re wet enough before you push too hard. And while you’re doing that, your Daddy is gonna put the real thing in me.”

George’s dick was bouncing and jerking by itself in his sweatpants. His leaking precum had begun to create a dark patch that started well down the left leg of the loose garment. Kat went to him without further delay and pulled off the grey pants, freeing his leaking dick for her amusement. “Lie down on the floor, honey,” she told her husband, “I wanna suck on it some while you get me nice and slippery.”

He happily did as she asked, lying on the carpet as she straddled his face and lowered her shaved slit to his waiting mouth. As she did so, she took the root of his thickness in one hand and the head into her warm mouth. Suckling gently, she was torn between the sensations her husband’s tongue gave her clit and the sheer delight of performing so sinfully in front of their daughters.

“Oh! I’ve seen that on the internet,” Shannon exclaimed. “I think it’s called sixty-nine.”

Kat pulled her mouth off George’s prong for a moment, “That’s right, sweetie.” She quickly took his cock back in her mouth, savoring the drops of precum as they bubbled from her husband. After several more minutes, she pulled her mouth of him again and announced, “I’m ready. You stay right where you are, mister.” She stood and turned so that she could see his face while she straddled his hips. “Put it in me, honey. I need it.”

George used one hand to hold his thick skewer straight up for his wife so she could center herself and begin lowering her hips to envelop him in her sugary warmth. As the first few inches penetrated her tight cavern, Kat winced but kept lowering herself. A groan escaped him, deep, guttural and primal.

“Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God...,” Shannon muttered as she watched her father’s massive meat stick plow into her mother. With one hand, the ultra-busty teen had been slowly working her new dildo inside her hairless little pussy. Kat gave a little yelp as George’s bulbous cock head bounced off her cervix. At that moment, Shannon plunged the dildo as far into herself fully and emitted a low, loud groan that prompted her parents to look that direction.

“Oh dear...,” Kat thought to herself while gyrating her hips atop her husband, “she’s already got whole thing inside herself. Oh my...”

Judy’s eyes had been swiveling back and forth between Shannon and her parents. Either vision would have been sufficient to hurry her orgasm, but with both scenes in the same room, plus the dildo in her own tight pussy while she stroked her dick, the pleasure was almost unbearable. Suddenly focused more on the dildo in her own dripping slit, she let go of her dick and began furiously plowing her teen box with the plastic toy. Very soon, she let out a high-pitched whine and her whole body tensed.

“Daddy,” Shannon asked, “when you get ready to cum, where are you gonna shoot it?”

Kat quickly interjected, “It’s going inside me.”

“Won’t be much longer, honey,” George chimed in.

“Good ... I’m ... almost there ... too,” Kat answered, panting.

“Me too,” Shannon echoed as her hand moved the dildo with greater pace in and out of her little slit.

Without further ado or warning, George’s balls tightened, and he began firing his seed into Kat’s greedy gash. Though she had experienced it many times since George’s change, Kat continued to be amazed by not only his huge equipment, but also the sheer volume of spend he created. As her tight tunnel spasmed around him, George’s dick continued to twitch even after his full load had been deposited.

The four of them lay gasping, catching their breath. Suddenly, Kat announced, “Girls, there’s a whole lot of your Daddy’s cream leaking out of me already. If you want a taste, you can get down there and start licking it up.”

Shannon and Judy both scrambled toward their mother, but Shannon got there first. She saw her father’s thick cock still plugging her mother’s comparatively tiny hole, their combined juices leaking around his shaft. Shannon quickly brought her mouth to the base of her dad’s meat, licking and slurping up the mixture of carnal liquids she found there.

To Shannon’s side, Judy whined, “Aww, I wanted to taste Daddy again too.”

“Trust me, honey,” Kat said, “there’s still plenty more inside me. It’ll come pouring out when I pull myself off him.” She leaned down and kissed her husband warmly before winking. She then raised her hips slowly until his heavy cock flopped free, slapping his abdomen wetly. As soon as her slimy snatch was unplugged, his cream drooled from her in a stream of gooey gobs. Judy quickly placed her mouth in just the right place to catch the majority of it as it flowed from her mother. The elder teen hummed and mewled as her father’s pearly paste hit her tongue.

Shannon took the opportunity to grab her father’s semi-hard cock and begin licking up more of the combined juices from it. Surprising both he and Kat, George’s cock quickly began to regain its rigidity under his youngest daughter’s manipulations.

“Wow, honey!” Kat said. “It’s been years since you were ready for another round so quickly.”

George barely heard her. His attention was focused on the sensations in his sensitive cock and the vision of his busty daughter as she slurped and jacked his paternal package. She was on her knees, using one hand to steady herself while the other stroked him using the other. Her heavy globes wobbled and swayed below her with each movement she made. Her eyes were heavy-lidded with lust. Having licked up the mixed mommy and daddy juices that had adorned him, she’d moved on to trying to get a fresh load from him. This time, directly from the source. And she was working with dedicated purpose.

It didn’t take long for George’s balls to begin tingling anew. He warned her, “Shannon, I’m gonna cum, baby.” And the first rope of his second load hit the back of her mouth, causing her to gag for a moment. Still dedicated to the job, she didn’t recoil, she only stopped moving her head. Hungrily, she kept gently suckling while her hand continued to jerk and stroke him, urging more of his jizz into her greedy mouth.

Eventually, she couldn’t swallow fast enough to keep up with George’s volume. When the intensity of his spasms ebbed, she pulled her mouth off him, but kept stroking as more of his cum flowed out. Judy took it on herself to quickly pounce and begin slurping up the flow and overflow that Shannon hadn’t been able to contain. Judy’s agile tongue danced all over George’s abdomen, seeking out the stray dollops of his goopy mess.

Kat relaxed on the edge of the bed, smiling. Her whole body felt warm inside as she watched her beautiful daughters pleasure the man they all loved most.

Monday afternoon of the following week, Kat entered George’s study and let him know that Judy’s tutor wanted to speak with them. “She promised it’s nothing bad. Just something she wants to discuss. And no, she won’t tell me what it is.”

George nodded, “Alright. When?”

“She and I were thinking now would be good,” Kat answered. “You know how much I hate to wait for anything. Just knowing that she needs to talk to us about Judy but not knowing why – that’ll drive me insane.”

“Fine by me,” George answered.

“Can we do it in here?” Kat asked. “She hinted that she doesn’t want Judy to know what we’re talking about.”

George’s interest was truly piqued. “Okay.”

Kat leaned out the door and waved the young woman inside. She was a very attractive young lady. Before hiring her, George had ensured that she was thoroughly vetted. Still in college herself, she was only 4 years older than Judy. Katherine “Katie” Goodwin had taken the tutoring job as a way to make some money while in school. Her mother was nearing retirement in some southwestern city ... George couldn’t remember. Katie’s father had died of complications related to heart disease when she’d been in high school. And although Katie had done well enough in high school to earn a full academic scholarship, there were still bills to pay; food, clothing, car insurance, fuel ... etc. This tutoring job allowed her to stay afloat financially. Both George and Kat were very pleased with Katie’s job performance and Judy’s test scores. As a warm-blooded male, George couldn’t help but find Katie physically attractive. Most days, she wore just the slightest hint of makeup, which accentuated her features and brought out her naturally captivating beauty. On days when she eschewed makeup, she had a ‘girl-next-door’ type of wholesomeness in her face that was equally attractive. Her body reminded George of Kat’s, lean and strong, though Katie’s boobs were probably a little bigger than Kat’s. He didn’t know for sure, since he’d obviously never seen Katie naked.

George assumed the cash-strapped young lady planned to ask for a raise. If that turned out to be the case, he would happily consider it.

Katie surprised both George and Kat when she began to speak. “Judy believes she’s in love with me,” the young tutor said. “And ... I think I love her too.” Shifting nervously in her seat, she began twisting a loose thread on the bottom hem of her sweater, near her lap. “I have nothing but respect for you both. And I really like working for you. So, I thought I would talk to you before I made any decision about what to do.”

Kat was flabbergasted. She sat with her jaw open, making no sound. George took the lead. “If I may ask, what has Judy done that makes you believe she’s in love with you?”

“She told me so.”

“Ah,” George responded, “and when did this happen?”

“Last week. I was sitting next to her while she worked through her calculus exercises, and all of a sudden, she leaned over and kissed me! Then, she said she was in love with me.”

George nodded slowly. “And you responded ... how?”

“My mind froze up! So, I kind of panicked and told her we needed to focus on the lesson. But I could tell she was a little hurt that I didn’t reciprocate her feelings right away.”

George’s heart hurt for his eldest daughter. Though he knew it wasn’t realistic, he’d always hoped to protect his children from heartache. “So ... you said you think you might love her too?”

Katie nodded while blushing. “Yes sir. I’ve been thinking about her ever since she kissed me. And I know how smart she is, and how kind she is, and I think she’s just the most beauti...” she stopped herself, embarrassed.

George smiled warmly. “I’m glad you see all those qualities in her.” He paused for several moments before deciding to continue. “There’s another thing you may not know about Judy though. And if you are serious about pursuing a relationship with her, it wouldn’t be fair to hide it from y...”

“You mean her penis?” Katie interrupted him.

This caught George off-guard. “Uh ... yes, that’s what I’m referring to. How did you know?”

“Judy likes to wear those tight, yoga-style pants sometimes. And when she does, it’s kinda difficult to not see that she has parts I don’t have.” She smiled demurely and blushed. Mustering all her courage to continue looking George in the eyes instead of lowering her gaze to her own lap, she said, “I’ve never met a girl with a penis before. But to be honest, the combination of someone with a woman’s gentle touch combined with ... more masculine parts ... just the thought of all those desirable assets in one person excites me.”

George cleared his throat and replied. “Well ... yes ... anyway. You showed a great deal of courage and maturity in talking with us about this, Katie. Thank you for that.”

“I’d really like to try dating Judy, if she wants to,” Katie continued, “but I don’t want to lose this job, Mr. Fleming. I was raised to believe that you don’t turn your back on a good employer by mixing work and personal issues.”

“Quite right,” George responded. “Hmm. Isn’t Judy supposed to take her final exams in a few months?”

“Yes sir.”

“And if you put together an accelerated lesson plan, do you think she’d be able to handle it?”

“Without a doubt,” Katie answered confidently.

“Okay then,” George began, “here’s what I propose. You come up with an accelerated plan for her, and if she’s able to score well enough on her finals to make herself eligible for graduation, then your job will be complete. Right?”

“Yes, that’s true,” she answered.

“Good,” George silently congratulated himself, thinking everything was settled.

Katie looked confused. “Are you ... do you just want me to hurry up and get her ready to graduate so you can get rid of me?”

“No, no! Nothing like that!” George replied. “I just meant that you should put any relationship ideas on hold until Judy graduates. I know it won’t be pleasant, but we shouldn’t mention any of this to her yet, that way she’ll be more likely to focus on her studies for now. Then, after she graduates, the two of you will be free to explore a relationship, if that’s what you both want.”

Katie’s face lit up and she quickly stood to round the desk and hug George tightly. “Thank you. I promise I’ll keep doing my best for Judy. And for both of you.” She looked back and forth between George and Kat.

Completely out of her normal character, Kat had remained silent throughout George and Katie’s discussion. Though she had remembered to close her jaw somewhere along the way.

The following evening, while Shannon was in her room reading, George, Kat and Judy sat on the sofa, trying to pick a movie to watch on cable TV. The ladies had settled on a ‘women’s entertainment’ channel. At which point, George decided to leave them to it as he went to his study. He couldn’t be bothered to stick around long enough to find out which of the two movie plots they were going to watch. That channel apparently only had two stories to choose from; One of them involves a hard-working, but underappreciated corporate woman who’s forced to go back to her backwoods hometown, where she finds love. The other type always seemed to involve some hard-working, saintly woman’s baby being taken by someone else, generally the child’s ungrateful father. Change the actors and character names and give the thing a new title. That appeared to be the end of the creative process for these movies.

George wasn’t upset that entertainment specifically for women existed. It didn’t even bother him that there was an entire channel apparently devoted to stories about men being the root of all evil. It was only entertainment, after all - no reason for anyone to get their panties in a twist about it. What did upset him was that there were apparently only two stories.

Without George’s knowledge, even Kat and Judy were perturbed at the movie they’d chosen, changing the channel about 20 minutes into it. While they channel-surfed for a more pleasant offering, Kat noticed Judy was shifting in her seat while covering her crotch with both hands.

“Are you okay, honey?” Kat asked, trying to sound nonchalant.

“Momma, it’s ... don’t get me wrong, I really like your rule about being naked in the house. But I have a hard time not getting an erection, no pun intended,” Judy answered.

Kat nodded. “That’s why your father still wears pants a lot of the time. It’s fine if you want to do the same.”

Judy offered a couple shakes of her head, “Nuh-uh, I really like not having to wear clothes. But it’s ... difficult when I can see everybody else naked too.”

Kat took on her most motherly vocal tone, “Would you like some help dealing with that, honey? We can go to your room and take care of it together, if you like. Unless you’d rather do it yourself...”

Judy was already standing and holding out her hand to Kat. “Please ... the together option sounds a lot better.”

Kat walked hand-in-hand with her eldest daughter to her room. They closed the door after entering and Kat said, “Lie down on the bed, honey.”

Judy laid on the bed, her dick pointing at the ceiling, quivering with excitement. Kat hummed with predatory glee before she leaned over and took Judy’s dick in her warm mouth, eliciting a surprised groan from the teen.

“Oh!” she said. “Oh, that’s so good, Momma. Please don’t stop. I’m so close already.”

Kat had no intention of stopping. She was looking forward to bringing her daughter as much pleasure as possible. The fact that she secretly knew Judy was love-smitten with Katie but felt spurned only fueled the mother further into making sure the teen felt the joy of release.

As if on cue, Judy grunted “I’m gonna...” and exploded into her mother’s mouth, incrementally filling it more with each spasming twitch. Kat hummed and relished the earthy sweetness of Judy’s cream. While there was plenty of it, she had become so used to her husband’s gargantuan loads that she had no trouble keeping up with Judy’s volume of spend, swallowing happily. Only one small dribble escaped her lips before dripping onto Judy’s hairless groin.

Kat sat back, satisfied with the job she’d performed. Judy panted and whimpered as the muscular tics in her thighs slowly quieted. Kat kissed Judy deeply before looking down to note that Judy was still hard!

“Gosh, baby!” Kat said as she grabbed Judy’s dick again. “You really have been excited, haven’t you?”

“Yeah,” Judy panted while watching her mother stroke her aching penis.

“Do you want me to help you again?” Kat asked.

“Please?”

“Sure honey. But my jaw needs a rest. So, you’ll just have to make do with a handjob, I guess.”

“That would be fine ... unless...,” Judy said.

Kat looked Judy in the eyes, “Are you thinking of some other way I could help you, baby?”

Judy nodded and hesitantly reached over the graze her fingers across Kat’s shaved slit.

“OH!” Kat gasped. “Well...,” she mused, quickly weighing the pros and cons. In the ‘pros’ column, she knew that Judy’s semen was sterile. She also knew that her own tubes were tied, just in case. But the more pressing argument in the ‘pros’ column was the feel of Judy’s eager erection in her hand, which was causing the slender mom to drip juices onto Judy’s bed linens. She couldn’t think of anything to put in the ‘cons’ column.

With a smile, she straddled Judy’s waist, used one hand to guide Judy’s rock-hard prick and then she dropped her weight, bringing Judy’s erection fully inside her mother’s vagina.

“Ahh...,” Judy moaned. To her, Kat’s pussy felt so tight that she couldn’t imagine how tight she must’ve been before George’s cock got so big. “Wow...,” she whispered. Pulling her mother’s body down toward hers, she began to suck on Kat’s pebbly nipples while matching her hip motions with her mother’s. Soon, the backs of Kat’s thighs were slapping on the tops of Judy’s, loudly echoing around the room. The pace and intensity increased until Kat’s body went rigid. A few moments later, she began to relax and resumed her aggressive hip movements, doing her best to coax another load of cum from Judy’s smooth balls.

As Judy raced ever closer to her peak, she said, “I’m getting close again, Momma. Where do you want me to cum?”

“Inside me, baby. That’s my absolute favorite place to feel warm cum.”

Kat got her wish and moaned with happiness as Judy grunted and began to fill her mother’s twat with teenage nut juice of the seedless variety. When their spasms ceased, Kat rolled off her daughter and they lay panting side-by-side. “Do you feel better now, sweetie?”

Judy giggled while nodding.

“Good.”

“You really surprised me, Momma. To best honest, I never expected you to put me inside your pussy. But thank you so much, Momma, you just made one of my fantasies come true.”

“Is that right? Well, I guess the old girl still has some surprises in her,” Kat chuckled.

“Stop it,” Judy playfully slapped her mother’s arm. “You’re not old.”

After a few more moments, Kat asked, “So, if you don’t mind me asking, what other fantasies do you have swimming around in that pretty little head of yours?”

“Well,” Judy began, “Of course, I want to see what it feels like to have Daddy inside me. And now that you and I have ... you know...”

“ ... fucked.” Kat finished Judy’s sentence.

Judy giggled. “Yeah ... most of the time, when I’m ... pleasing myself, I think about Katie. And now that you and I have fucked, I would like to see how it feels to do it with Katie. I sometimes think about fucking Shannon too. I don’t know if that’ll ever happen, since she’s waiting for Daddy to be her first. But there is one more fantasy I have that involves you.”

“Oh yeah,” Kat’s eyebrows went up, “what is that?”

“I’d kinda like to put my penis in your butt,” Judy said while blushing deeply.

To Judy’s surprise and glee, Kat didn’t react with shock. Instead, she said, “Hmm. I’ve never tried that before, so I’ll have to think it over. For now, all I’ll say is ... maybe.”

Kat then kissed Judy again before rising to leave the room. “I’m gonna take a quick shower. You should do the same, honey.”

Just over a month later, Judy completed her final exams. She passed each subject with flying colors! The collegiate tutor was so thrilled for Judy; she had worked so hard throughout the last two semesters and her test scores reflected that. In addition, Katie was full of nervous energy because she planned to reveal her own feelings to Judy. However, for Judy’s sake, she felt it would be best to wait until after Judy had completed her SATs, so she’d be eligible for her own collegiate entrance. She explained to George and Kat that it would be best for Judy to take them right away to avoid potential ‘brain drain’ and procrastination on Judy’s part. George and Kat agreed with Katie’s approach.