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jayhainline88

I have been talking with Mr. Bywater, about a story Idea, and he said it would be fitting to post it here. Most stories involving time travel deal with traveling to the past. My thought is why aren't there more about people from the past traveling to the present. With the people or person, coming and using the skills of the past(somethings today we call lost arts). It could be folks from ancient civilizations, Native Americans, Aborigines,Medieval Asia or Europe. The difference in attitudes(sexual as well medicine,personal conduct)opens up a huge area that can be explored.

Dominions Son

@jayhainline88

It has interesting possibilities, but it's been done.

Travel into the future is easy, you don't even need a time machine you can use cryostasis deliberate or accidental.

There's at least one story on SOL, Hard Time by Frank Speaks ( https://storiesonline.net/s/61601:98969 ) where the MC is thrown forward in time by an apocalyptic event.

The original time travel story, H.G. Wells The Time Machine involved travel to the future.

There are more than a few dead tree books as well as B Science Fiction movies with a theme of cave man frozen in ice revived in modern times.

In the animated TV series Futurama the main character travels into the far future via cryostasis.

It can be done and make for an interesting story.

However, there are obstacles to doing it well.

The biggest is language. Languages change over time. Civilizations rise and fall, and the new civilization rarely speaks the same language as the old one.

There's only so far into the future you can go before language should become a significant obstacle.

Capt. Zapp

@jayhainline88

The Caveman
by Colin Barrett

What were human beings like thousands of years before the dawn of civilization? Lawyer Linda Powell, herself suffering through a deep personal crisis, begins to learn for herself when a man of that era is involuntarily catapulted forward in time by happenstance to appear as if by magic in her front yard. With her help he hesitantly begins to adapt to the vast changes that have occurred since his prior life as a spearhunter. But can such a man find a true place in the modern world?


A Stitch in Time by Marsh Alien
(This one is Premier Only)

After a visit with Santa in the men's room of the local shopping mall, ninth grader Patrick Sterling wakes up on Christmas morning to find himself three years older. Is it too late to fix the mess that he appears to have made out of high school? And is he even capable of doing it, having missed out on the lessons he would have learned in the intervening years? In most time travel stories the hero travels backward; not this one.

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sunkuwan

I always liked the premise of a "Time-Tourist" like Ashly Hanson from the Nights Dawn Trilogy. He is a side Character who gets out of Cryostasis every 50 years to tour the Galaxy for 5 years.

Ernest Bywater

So it's been done before, like every other basic plot line, why not do it again with your own twist on it?

I've thought a bit about this since it was mentioned to me, and I may do something on it when I finish with the 30 part written stories I have in the works now. But think for a minute about some of the changes in attitudes and adjustments needed. Say, have a rich powerful Southern Democrat from the 1850s brought forward to today, and explore how he reacts to the values put out by today's Democratic Party, how would he deal with the differences in honour values and day to day living things? Could lead to some interesting tales.

Switch Blayde

@jayhainline88

people from the past traveling to the present.


There's a movie with Hugh Jackman and Meg Ryan called "Kate and Leopold."

There's a bad movie with Brandon Frazier where he's a frozen man from way back in the past. I turned it off.

Anyway, it has been done.

awnlee jawking

@Ernest Bywater

So it's been done before, like every other basic plot line, why not do it again with your own twist on it?


Agreed, it's not that difficult.

Just on the spur of the moment, HG Wells arrives in the present day in his time machine, from an alternate reality in which the USA lost the War of Independence, and the First World War and the Russian Revolution never happened. HG Wells is convinced that our reality, with its wars and nuclear bombs etc, is the one that's gone badly wrong.

AJ

jayhainline88

Interesting that most of the feed back is negative. I don't understand what Hollywood movies have to do with the stories on this site. As to try comparing it to reality....I really see most works here are fiction. I'm not seeing what your saying in relation to stories that go that direction. I do see them going from the present into the future, present into the past..........But Have Not Seen A Single Story On This Site.......THAT goes PAST TO PRESENT. Referring to other mediums such as movies and cartoons is not same as being in print. Honestly 50% of the material that is here has been done, been a movie, cartoon..........or been written about. Just because your not interested in reading such a story of that nature,Why criticize. The point if it's actually been done, yet not done right....it would lead some to think ....

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zellus

https://storiesonline.net/s/14099/the-caveman
https://storiesonline.net/a/Colin_Barrett

What were human beings like thousands of years before the dawn of civilization? Lawyer Linda Powell, herself suffering through a deep personal crisis, begins to learn for herself when a man of that era is involuntarily catapulted forward in time by happenstance to appear as if by magic in her front yard. With her help he hesitantly begins to adapt to the vast changes that have occurred since his prior life as a spearhunter. But can such a man find a true place in the modern world?
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REP

@jayhainline88

The medium is not important; it's the idea that matters. A movie, full-length book, or short story on a site like SOL all start with an idea. Most ideas have been done so many times that the Authors on SOL aren't interest is doing Another Version of the same idea; but, some of us like the idea and are willing to write the same basic story again and again and again. The negative feedback is most likely coming from those of us who aren't interested in repeating the ideas they believe have been run into the ground.

Another item you are missing is that most fiction is based in reality with a twist. That twist is what makes it fiction.

But Have Not Seen A Single Story On This Site.......THAT goes PAST TO PRESENT.


"A Stich in Time" is one such story and I have read other stories based on someone who was cryogenically frozen and revived hundreds of years later. I would give you more titles but I tend to forget names.

Try doing a Category search on Time Travel. The genre search selection box is at the end of the code selection table.

REP

@jayhainline88

An Author must consider multiple factors when contemplating a story set in our future that has a good plot. Such a story is far more difficult to create than something in the past. That is probably why few Authors want to write such a story.

Capt. Zapp

@jayhainline88

But Have Not Seen A Single Story On This Site.......THAT goes PAST TO PRESENT.


The two I referenced above go from PAST to PRESENT. Both are on this site and are excellent stories.

Capt. Zapp

@zellus

I referred this one as well as 'A Stitch in Time' to him but he still claimed there wasn't a single story of this type on here.

Dominions Son

@Ernest Bywater

why not do it again with your own twist on it?


No reason not to do it again. It's been done well and done poorly. Try to do it well if you are going to do it.

Dominions Son

@jayhainline88

Interesting that most of the feed back is negative. I don't understand what Hollywood movies have to do with the stories on this site.


My comment was not meant to be as negative as seem to have taken it.

I don't understand what Hollywood movies have to do with the stories on this site.


Inspiration.

Why criticize.

I wasn't criticizing the general idea, just pointing out an issue that would have to be dealt with if you want the story to work without being overly campy.

richardshagrin

There are other possible plots. Someone from the past travels either to our past but their future or their past. MC from 2000 BC visits 1 AD, either 2000 years in his future or 2000 years in our past. Or someone from now goes back in time and meets someone from far back in the past traveling forward. There would be a variety of times they experience, maybe they jump each chapter or for each sequel. It gets even messier if we have lots of travelers from lots of different times. Sort of like space travelers with different speed of light contraction factors meeting back at earth. Lets NOT add aliens, multiple characters makes it complex enough. If sex is added, probably best to have traditional tabs A and slots B, C, and D. (Anal, Oral and the one that starts with a V).

awnlee jawking

@richardshagrin

the one that starts with a V


Ah yes, the Vacuumcleanerhose, the source of many A&E visitations (allegedly).

AJ

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Dominions Son

@awnlee jawking

Ah yes, the Vacuumcleanerhose, the source of many A&E visitations (allegedly).


Why would a vacuumcleaner hose result in an Arts & Entertainment visit?

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jayhainline88

Maybe your misunderstanding me, I did give certain groups such as Native American's & Aborigines(both that are still here in the 21 century) most Asian countries still have deep roots. I would make it a point that if they traveled to our present.....as mentioned we have folks travel to the past, we have people travel to what we would consider our future. What we don't have are people from the past traveling to our present. We can go off on tangents discussing, future technologies making time travel possible..........but, putting it bluntly were still talking about theory(transporter beam or magic gates). Point that I'm making is you can research older ways...that's history....you can't with the future, it's an unknown.........and we do live in the present. Examples of what I'm talking about: 18 century folk traveling to either the 20th or 21st century, 16 century folk traveling to 20th/21st century, 19th>>>>>>>>>>>20/21 century. It doesn't have to be cavemen like Encino man. As many cultures flourished and gone(like the Mayans, Huns, Romans, peoples of Europe like vikings, Gauls, Celts, North American tribes, Egypt or Israel or Pacific island natives...China, Japan)you could even have people from the early 20th century come to the present. Getting to the present doesn't have to be difficult(no much more difficult the tech that we don't have or has been dreamed up that we expect in the future). Tech like cryo(Encino man, the thing, Avatar,and Futurrama), magic portals(the gate, anything with a worm hole)might lay in the future. A magic portal or gateway isn't discounted in the future, so why wouldn't possible in the past(under a certain set of circumstances).........along the lines of the Philadelphia experiment....or someone finding H.G.Wells time machine....or factors like a lightning strike combined with a rock formation. Thing you will always see folks go from modern day to the past............or modern day to future or another planet or other dimension/world. All I going on is bringing people with lost skills into the present(wouldn't be curious if there was a cure for something, or treatment that was lost.....but would be effective on modern illnesses......but only that ancient knowledge holds the key[watch the movie "the Medicine Man"]..............then if people want they can inject what every they deem the amount of erotic stuff they want.

sejintenej

@richardshagrin

There are other possible plots. Someone from the past travels either to our past but their future or their past. MC from 2000 BC visits 1 AD, either 2000 years in his future or 2000 years in our past.


There is a variation on this theme part of which is more credible.

In one of the Greenies stories a police officer is killed, his wife has his body frozen and it is his great ...... grand daughter on Mars who brings him back to life many centuries in the future. That story ends with his being sent back to his original time.

Geek of Ages

@jayhainline88

Dude, paragraph breaks are your friend.

AmigaClone

I checked and found 472 stories that have the tag "time travel" on SOL.

While I didn't read each of them, or for that matter even all the descriptions, travel into the past is by far the most common theme. Do-overs and travel into at least the equivalent of the 19th century (wild west), Middle Ages and Pre-historical times are the most common themes or destinations.

There are at least a couple of stories on SOL where the MC is taken into the future to provide sperm to prevent humanities extinction.

https://storiesonline.net/s/66395/the-missing-y-chromosome

https://storiesonline.net/s/44346/old-man

Dominions Son

@jayhainline88

All I going on is bringing people with lost skills into the present


Not as much has been truly lost as you imagine.

There are people in today's world who know how to work metal, make weapons and armor as it was done all the way back to the Roman Empire.

There are people who know how to build buildings and work would as it was done in ancient times.

Many modern drugs that we take for granted are ancient herbal remedies that have simply been purified from the herbal origins or synthesized in much more concentrated and potent forms.

Most of what has been truly lost was lost because it is no longer useful.

Not that a story with such a theme can't be done, but if the author who attempts it isn't very careful, it will end up either dry and boring, or ridiculously implausible.

In my opinion, the most plausible scenario for an ancient person brought into the modern world would be such a person simply trying to comprehend the modern world while evading government agents who want to lock him in a laboratory somewhere while they figure out how he got here and how he survived the process.

Grant
Updated:

@Capt. Zapp

The Caveman by Colin Barrett

A Stitch in Time by Marsh Alien
(This one is Premier Only)

And to add to those, Lost by Oz Ozzie.
Sarah Holding, daughter of a convict, finds herself completely lost in Australia. The land is at once quite familiar and completely different in every regard when she runs away from her mother's murderer. (no explicit sex).
An excellent short story.
https://storiesonline.net/s/53602/lost

sejintenej

@Dominions Son

Most of what has been truly lost was lost because it is no longer useful.

Do you REALLY think so?
I have personally been treated for a longstanding bleeding complaint by a woman who went out, got the plants, made a brew and treated my skin; next day I was better, a week later cured of a complaint I had had for many years (and I have never had a recurrence since and have lost the scars).
Another woman - a fully qualified nurse, used family methods to remove warts without modern medicines or equipment.
I have seen a boy "cured" by a tribal "witchdoctor" of a snake bite which could have killed him
After "modern medicine" totally failed my own secretary, a French girl, was cured by a Mae de Santo (the white version of voodoo).

I don't pretend to understand it but having seen and experienced such things I accept that there are methods which we don't understand but which work. IF it is autosuggestion, so what? they work.

Dominions Son

@sejintenej

I don't pretend to understand it but having seen and experienced such things I accept that there are methods which we don't understand but which work.


True, but the knowledge of those methods have not been lost, or you couldn't have seen them used.

sharkjcw

https://storiesonline.net/a/Coaster2
https://storiesonline.net/s/15479/life-on-another-planet

awnlee jawking

@jayhainline88

All I going on is bringing people with lost skills into the present


Be great if we could rediscover the technology used by the people of Atlantis for their flying machines, since it didn't seem to involve fossil fuels ;)

AJ

awnlee jawking

@Dominions Son

Sorry, I was thinking old school. Nowadays they'd post it straight onto youtube.

AJ

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Dominions Son

@awnlee jawking

Sorry, I was thinking old school. Nowadays they'd post it straight onto youtube.


And here I was thinking it was either a British or a Australian idiom for what we in the US would call an Emergency Room (ER).

PotomacBob

@jayhainline88

Lubrican's Prick Van Winkle

Crumbly Writer
Updated:

I've discussed (and recommended) it before, but I've always loved the classic dead-tree novel "The Far Arena" by Richard Ben Sapir, which I first read back in high school (it was published in 1978). It features a Roman gladiator who pisses off the Emperor who then condemns him to be killed by being thrown into the freezing English oceanfront. He's revived (chipped out of a block of ice) in modern day Europe, and leads those who rescued him in a tit-for-tat exchange of lies and manipulations as he slowly learns about the modern world.

Crumbly Writer

@sejintenej

I don't pretend to understand it but having seen and experienced such things I accept that there are methods which we don't understand but which work. IF it is autosuggestion, so what? they work.

Drug companies have been searching for 'native' cures for decades, only they have little interest in curing anyone, they only want new drugs they can sell to people on a monthly basis, so much of what they might otherwise discover is simply cast aside as being 'unprofitable'.

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Crumbly Writer

@Dominions Son

Many modern drugs that we take for granted are ancient herbal remedies that have simply been purified from the herbal origins or synthesized in much more concentrated and potent forms.

The ancient Romans had a wild 'weed' which was ideal for causing spontaneous abortions. Only, it proved so popular, it seen became extinct they used it so much! Don't tell me we still possess any knowledge we used to possess. We only know what we've 'discovered', everything else is forever lost!

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Dominions Son

@Crumbly Writer

Don't tell me we still possess any knowledge we used to possess.


I didn't say nothing has been lost, just that most of what has been lost was abandoned because it was no longer useful, and we still have far more ancient knowledge than people think.

One of the most ubiquitous over the counter drugs, aspirin (acetylsalicylic acid) was originally a plant extract (willow bark).

The Romans and the ancient Egyptians, were known to use powdered willow bark as a pain reliever and anti-inflammatory.

Crumbly Writer

@Dominions Son

The Romans and the ancient Egyptians, were known to use powdered willow bark as a pain reliever and anti-inflammatory.

And here I always thought we learned how to use willow as a painkiller from the Native Americans—after they spent all week cutting down and hollowing out a willow, chopping their hands up in the process. 'D It seems like a more natural application of the willow than as a damn boat!

Dominions Son
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@Crumbly Writer


And here I always thought we learned how to use willow as a painkiller from the Native Americans


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_aspirin

ETA:
http://www.aspirin-foundation.com/history-of-aspirin/aspirin-timeline/

This one says Hippocrates in ancient Greece gave willow leaf tea to women to ease the pain of child birth.

Dominions Son

@Crumbly Writer

And here I always thought we learned how to use willow as a painkiller from the Native Americans—after they spent all week cutting down and hollowing out a willow, chopping their hands up in the process. 'D


Willow was not a preferred wood for dugout canoes by Native Americans.

http://treenotes.blogspot.com/2007/03/dugout-canoes.html

Ceder was preferred on the west cost and pine or chestnut in the north east. Cypress was the preferred wood for natives in the South east and Gulf Coast areas.

sejintenej

@Crumbly Writer

Drug companies have been searching for 'native' cures for decades, only they have little interest in curing anyone, they only want new drugs they can sell to people on a monthly basis, so much of what they might otherwise discover is simply cast aside as being 'unprofitable'.


Worse, companies have fully tested and approved products which they don't bother to sell. One of those that I know of (and this was in the seventies) is a "glue" for broken bones which gives full strength after 12 hours but which allows bone to grow through it. OK so it needs surgery to apply it but I don't think that they have released it even now.

They also had an artificial skin for burn patients which they delayed releasing. There was also an artificial artery but I suspect it is now released.

sejintenej

@Dominions Son

I didn't say nothing has been lost, just that most of what has been lost was abandoned because it was no longer useful, and we still have far more ancient knowledge than people think.

I wonder if the reason was actually that it took longer to take effect and that it's method of working was/is not known so it cannot be approved.

Surely that is the basis of homeopathy which was (?is)so reviled by the UK medical establishment.
In France homeopathic remedies are prescribed by normal general practitioners as freely as more conventional drugs and at least many are available without prescription. We keep a stock, mainly of painkillers, here, having brought them back from France.

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Dominions Son

@sejintenej

Surely that is the basis of homeopathy which was (?is)so reviled by the UK medical establishment.


Homeopathy deserves ridicule.

Their remedies are so diluted that it's insane to believe that they have any value.

I bought an homeopathic ear ache remedy. The alleged active ingredient was deadly nightshade. However, the concentration was so insanely low that I doubt there was more than a single particle of the active ingredient in the entire bottle.

My municipal supplied tap water probably has more nightshade in it.

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Crumbly Writer

@Dominions Son

My municipal supplied tap water probably has more nightshade in it.

A little superhero goes a long ways! 'D

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