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Charlotte's Movie

Bishop ๐Ÿšซ

Anyone have the original I can get epub of? Thanks

Replies:   Argon
daedra ๐Ÿšซ

Click this mysterious link

Replies:   Keet
Keet ๐Ÿšซ

@daedra

That link is useless: only up to the 5th chapter available and chapter 92 isn't even listed.
The book can be read online but I'm not sure if posting the link is legal considering copyrights.

Replies:   Dinsdale
Dinsdale ๐Ÿšซ

@Keet

Yeah, I looked there as well but noticed pretty quickly that it was incomplete. People have asked for that story here before.
https://storiesonline.net/d/s4/t491/students-making-a-movie
https://storiesonline.net/d/s4/t1151/college-student-becomes-porn-star
https://storiesonline.net/d/s4/t2579/charlottes-movie
https://storiesonline.net/d/s4/t2829/another-lost-story
https://storiesonline.net/d/s4/t5544/charlottes-movie
Only the last thread ended in success, and that was obviously from a private message rather than the forum.

Replies:   Keet
Keet ๐Ÿšซ

@Dinsdale

Obviously people don't know how to use a search engine. Simply using DuckDuckGo and searching for "Ken Randall" "Charlotte's Movie" gives a link on one of the first three result pages.

Replies:   Dinsdale  hst666
Dinsdale ๐Ÿšซ

@Keet

I'd forgotten about that site, the one with all those stolen stories.

hst666 ๐Ÿšซ

@Keet

DuckDuckGo

Thank You.

Argon ๐Ÿšซ

@Bishop

The author pulled the story for deeply personal reasons. We should respect that. It is still his story.
He posted a softened version which is still up:
https://storiesonline.net/s/59639/a-beautiful-mess

Replies:   Keet  joyR
Keet ๐Ÿšซ

@Argon

He posted a softened version which is still up:
https://storiesonline.net/s/59639/a-beautiful-mess

For what it's worth, it's a much better version in my opinion.

joyR ๐Ÿšซ

@Argon

The author pulled the story for deeply personal reasons. We should respect that. It is still his story.

I agree with you, however the reality is that readers and webmasters really don't care about the laws of copyright let alone the wishes of the author.

Whilst the truth might discourage people posting their work, the fact is that once ANYTHING is uploaded to the web all control is lost, despite the law and any anything approaching morality or respect.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@joyR

I agree with you, however the reality is that readers and webmasters really don't care about the laws of copyright let alone the wishes of the author.

While there are certainly some readers who don't care and some sites whose webmaster's don't care, I think it's going more than a bit too far to say that none of them care.

Replies:   joyR
joyR ๐Ÿšซ
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@Dominions Son

I think it's going more than a bit too far to say that none of them care.

It is and the reason I stated it as I did is simple.

You are of the opinion that "some don't care".

Whilst my opinion is that "some do care".

The difference being in which group is the majority. We would all like to think that the barrel only contains a few bad apples, the reality is otherwise.

Replies:   Keet
Keet ๐Ÿšซ
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@joyR

The difference being in which group is the majority. We would all like to think that the barrel only contains a few bad apples, the reality is otherwise.

I think it has a little more nuance to it.
I generally respect all copyrights. There are however cases where (older) stories are removed by the author and if I really, really want that specific story I will search for it to see if I still can get a hold of a copy. I have no problem buying it if it's available. But some you can't buy, or not in the original version. That could possibly be one of those rare instances where I try to find the story any other way. So it's partially a gray area for me and I suspect everyone has his own 'version' of a gray area.
I agree that some will always try to download stories any way they can for free and use any (illegal) site they can get it from. I certainly hope there are more readers who have 'their gray area' a lot closer to the legal side.
I will never redistribute such a story but sometimes I will point out how a story can still be found. That was the case with Charlotte's Movie, and only because it was freely available for a long time and a lot of readers already have that version so it's not like the story has totally disappeared. The reality is that once published on the internet you can never get it completely off again.

ETA: typo

Replies:   Remus2  Argon
Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

@Keet

The reality is that once published on the internet you can never get it completely off again.

It's amazing how many people simply don't get that.

Argon ๐Ÿšซ

@Keet

I generally respect all copyrights. There are however cases where (older) stories are removed by the author and if I really, really want that specific story I will search for it to see if I still can get a hold of a copy.

LOL! I hate to point out that this really means that you respect copyright only for as long as it does not interfere with your wants.
May you find that story and henceforth suffer from unabating erections! ๐Ÿ˜

Replies:   Keet
Keet ๐Ÿšซ

@Argon

LOL! I hate to point out that this really means that you respect copyright only for as long as it does not interfere with your wants.
May you find that story and henceforth suffer from unabating erections!

I think you should reread what I wrote and the intentions behind it. My only exception, and that is very, very rare, is with old stories that were previously freely available and can't be bought. That's not exactly as you make it out to be. You make it sound like I'm one of those assholes that think that anything they can find on the internet should be free. Thank you very much. /s

Replies:   Argon  awnlee jawking
Argon ๐Ÿšซ
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@Keet

Yes, but you must take into account that the owner can end the free availability. It is his right. The previous free availability does not put a story in the public domain. It is also the authors prerogative not to put up a story for sale and to withhold it from the public. Not nice, not popular, but entirely his choice. Think of it like an episode of a sitcom that was aired on a network for "free" viewing. You missed the episode, forgot to record it, and it's not (yet) available on Netflix. Yet, stream a copy of it from one of the ubiquitous (unauthorised) sites, and it's infringement.

I did not mean to portray you as an "asshole", I was only pointing out the contradictoriness between the first sentence of the quote and the second.

Peace!

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Keet

I can understand authors deleting stories from free sites if they want to sell them commercially but, if the reason is because they no longer want the stories associated with them, surely there's a better solution than 'book burning'.

In the case of the titular story, the author may have deleted it because he no longer wanted to be associated with it, but given the regularity this subject recurs, his action has only served to keep the association in the public eye.

AJ

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