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Chris Crescent ๐Ÿšซ

What might an innocent virginal teenage girl have done that's so embarrassing it leaves her open to blackmail?

CB ๐Ÿšซ

@Chris Crescent

Put a friends parked car in neutral and watched it roll down and get wrecked. One person saw her. Or, any similar theme.

Marius-6 ๐Ÿšซ
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@Chris Crescent

Shoplifting is a rather common crime committed by teen girls, without being caught by authorities; that could leave even a "good girl" vulnerable to blackmail.

Using, or possibly just possession of drugs, even "inadvertently" such as a friend giving them a jacket or backpack. (My girlfriend in high school, her douche older brother was getting arrested by cops. He gave her his leather jacket, told the cops he didn't want to risk it in jail. Remarkably they let him give it to her. They were both wealthy White people, she was 16, he was 21. Good thing they didn't search his coat, he had a good sized baggy of Marijuana in it! Cops were giving me the stink eye, because of being mixed race, and not quite of the same class. She could have gotten in a lot of trouble. ๐Ÿ˜ค We only discovered the drugs a bit later!)

Association with an "undesirable" (to her parents, or peers); various racial options, even in the 21st century. Or "criminal" (stereo) types, etc.

"Tricked" into providing nude, or topless pictures, or sexting. Possibly fakes.

All kinds of computer crime. Hacking her. Able to "prove" she had illegal access to school, porn, $, etc. Or finding secrets about her.

Virgin girl working underage as a waitress, or even as a stripper at a "Gentleman's Club"

These are some more common things that occur in the real world that might be used to blackmail a girl.

Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ

@Chris Crescent

Cheated on a major exam.

palamedes ๐Ÿšซ

@Chris Crescent

If their parents are a hard line religious or a culture base like not wearing a Hijab as an example.

Pixy ๐Ÿšซ

@Chris Crescent

Bled through her trousers and someone took a picture before she had a chance to change and use a pad.

Replies:   John Demille
John Demille ๐Ÿšซ

@Pixy

Not anymore. Not with freebleeding movement.

Replies:   StarFleet Carl
StarFleet Carl ๐Ÿšซ

@John Demille

freebleeding

I've matured some since then, but I still remember a comment we used to have in high school. Old enough to bleed, old enough to breed. We were some callous assholes back then.

Replies:   Pixy
Pixy ๐Ÿšซ

@StarFleet Carl

but I still remember a comment we used to have in high school

Technically, from a biological point of view, it's a valid point. Not a nice one, but biologically correct.

Replies:   Paladin_HGWT
Paladin_HGWT ๐Ÿšซ

@Pixy

Technically, from a biological point of view, it's a valid point. Not a nice one, but biologically correct.

From a Public Health/Sanitation perspective it is potentially dangerous. Numerous illnesses may be blood-borne! It could expose fellow students, co-workers, and janitorial personnel to an unwarranted hazard.

Historically, one of the reasons for a shorter life expectancy for women was anemia, caused largely by "free bleeding" during periods, and after child birth.

This is still a danger in many third world nations, and other primitive areas.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Paladin_HGWT

This is still a danger in many third world nations, and other primitive areas.

And first world schools and hospitals run by scientifically illiterate wokerati who ban meat and dairy.

AJ

REP ๐Ÿšซ

@Chris Crescent

Engaging in sexual activities with her best friend. A one-time event such as a very personal hug during a sleep over that went further than the girl planned.

Grey Wolf ๐Ÿšซ

@Chris Crescent

Depends on how innocent. So much room for interpretation.

Besides the others that are covered, and ranging across the gamut:

Left the door unlocked at home by accident, and the blackmailer set it up to look like she intentionally let them in - or stole something valuable and is blackmailing her against giving it back.

If driving age, dented the blackmailer's car (or plausibly could have been claimed to have been done so).

Framed in dozens of ways (planting 'evidence' of cheating, badmouthing her friends, theft, drugs, other crimes)

Sunbathing topless and someone took photos over a fence

Camera planted in locker room, etc

I'm sure there are many others. Part of it is whether the blackmailer (or the author) wants her to believe she really is guilty of questionable/bad behavior or whether her knowing she's been set up is better.

LOAnnie ๐Ÿšซ

@Chris Crescent

Yay, a topic I can speak to. As someone who has written many a blackmail story across multiple pen names, I want to say that there are lots of good ideas here that all work. But there's a lot more to consider.

Virginal doesn't necessarily mean shy. You can have a strong willed girl who is waiting. Depending on how you write your character of the blackmail victim, what might be enough would change.

Another thing to consider is the blackmailer.
*Is the blackmailer an adult or another teenager? What works and her reaction might depend on the power dynamic with age.
*Does she know her blackmailer? If so, is it someone who she thought she could trust? Does she feel betrayed?
*If an adult, what's the connection between them?
*If another teenager, how do their social circles interact?

You may also want to think about tiered blackmail. To use an example from above, somehow getting a picture of a girl topless sunbathing might not be enough for her to give up her virginity, but maybe it's enough to get her naked, or even head to make it "go away". And when she think she's clear, now the blackmailer has pictures of her naked, or video of her stripping or giving head. So the original blackmail might not have gotten the trick done, but with more ammo, she might just come to the conclusion that she's (about to be) fucked.

Paladin_HGWT ๐Ÿšซ

@LOAnnie

Virginal doesn't necessarily mean shy. You can have a strong willed girl who is waiting. Depending on how you write your character of the blackmail victim, what might be enough would change.

This may be the best of many strong comments that are great suggestions for any story; not just a blackmail story.

Huzzah!

Chris Crescent ๐Ÿšซ

@LOAnnie

Thank you.

I imagine the teen girl as a goody-two-shoes, apart from bullying her younger sister remorselessly and relentlessly out of their parents' sight.

The putative blackmailer is an adult male known to the family.

He decides to punish the older girl by sexually humiliating her in front of her sister.

She gets her first orgasm at his fingers, and it escalates from there.

LupusDei ๐Ÿšซ

@Chris Crescent

Nude video from a shower, the blackmail is to not publish it.

With physical access to the space it's extremely easy nowadays. Spy cameras of different kinds.

There are stick-on-wall towel hooks with an eye. Hook is functional, the eye concealed in ornament or even under smooth gloss finish above. Self contained, thus minimum two mission operation: set up and retrieval of the device or the memory card. Operational time limited, motion activated, may film a cat instead. Of course one may change batteries/memory and keep filming. May be replaced with inert replica upon closing the operation (I believe at least some offers come with that included in the set).

By drone through the window. Quite few bathrooms may have high placed wall window or skylight that's clear and aren't covered. Good drones may have camera with enough zoom/resolution the drone doesn't need anywhere close to the window. Cheap drone would have to be, but then it can be relatively tiny.

In public/school setting co-conspirator with a camera bag. May herself be blackmailed in doing so. Get an easy to get stooge, set up and send after the harder target.

Determined attacker will get nudes of almost anyone.

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Chris Crescent ๐Ÿšซ

@LupusDei

Nude video from a shower, the blackmail is to not publish it.

Thanks for the suggestion but I'm not keen.

I know it actually happens with young children, who are 'groomed' into sexting by malevolent adults, but the idea of a reasonably intelligent 14yo allowing herself to be blackmailed into real life sexual activities by illegally taken nude pictures or videos requires significant suspension of disbelief on my part.

Replies:   Dominions Son  Marius-6
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Chris Crescent

To my thinking, for any reasonably intelligent woman of any age to allow herself to be blackmailed into real life sexual activities it would have to be something more then just embarrassing, it would have to be something criminal, something that could end up in jail/prison time.

Replies:   Chris Crescent  LOAnnie
Chris Crescent ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

I'm trying to work out a scenario in which LOAnnie's tiered blackmail might work. The main character first encounters the girls at a neighbour's garden party. He could start by videoing the older girl nudging her sister into the pool fully-clothed, or tripping her up when she's carrying a tray of drinks. But where to go from there?

Replies:   LupusDei
LupusDei ๐Ÿšซ

@Chris Crescent

"I will not tell [mom*] you did that to your sister, if you do X."

Then, won't tell X if you do Y, etc.

The first series of dares could be silly things and not sexual activities at all, and perhaps even least anything to do with the blackmailer himself, but to take the thighs fast...

Say, I won't tell you pushed your sister in the pool fully clothed, if you will take your swimsuit off underwear and show it above your head. Then take it from her. Then make her run for the doors.

When she's back, tell her to jump in the pool in just panties. Get those off. Before long, to run over the street naked.

Replies:   LupusDei
LupusDei ๐Ÿšซ
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@LupusDei

Give her tasks she would enjoy but regret.

If she's a bully, tell her to abuse others more, not less, giving suggestions what to do.

Say, she's naked in the pool. Say the only way out is to wear Alice's swimsuit. (I don't care who Alice is, but she must, and she's obviously coming to jump in)

Tell to tease or flash guys, promising your backup if they're too aggressive.

Replies:   LupusDei
LupusDei ๐Ÿšซ
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@LupusDei

*mom: a person with *important opinion* not necessarily limited with authority figures

Not every blackmail threat should involve the same figure, in the contrary, expand the geography of those as much as possible. Different things directed and famed differently.

Make her do something secret, but supposedly unforgivable to that same little sister.

Do she have a boyfriend, a crush, the best female friend who's a rumor central?

"I will show [your favorite boy/ the whole football team] what a slut you really are."

"Think if [the local social star queen bee] will learn what you have done, you will never wash that reputation."

Those can be more efficient than parents. Unlike against parents, those could be carried out if needed be, then that played further.

Replies:   LupusDei
LupusDei ๐Ÿšซ

@LupusDei

Also, the blackmailer may, even should "rescue" her from situations he himself created, white knight, build trust. Before long he's the only person she can be fully open with, in front of whom she's not telling lies, not think what she tells, looks like, and what she does. He sets her free while the rest of the world is a prison with arcane rules going more tangled by day.

Replies:   mrherewriting
mrherewriting ๐Ÿšซ

@LupusDei

He should just use the D.E.N.N.I.S. System on her.

LOAnnie ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

Even reasonably intelligent people do dumb things (see the last 3 years (which works no matter what side of any of the debates you're on)).

There are plenty of examples of sexstortion of teens leading to suicide as an example... These things happen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Amanda_Todd

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2014/09/05/teens_still_falling_victim_to_online_sextortion.html

Boys too: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/manitoba-sexploitation-suicide-1.6494054

Marius-6 ๐Ÿšซ

@Chris Crescent

I know it actually happens with young children, who are 'groomed' into sexting by malevolent adults, but the idea of a reasonably intelligent 14yo allowing herself to be blackmailed into real life sexual activities by illegally taken nude pictures or videos requires significant suspension of disbelief on my part.

Neither you, Chris, nor I are likely to be victims of such a scheme. Sadly, too many young teens, and even adults have become victims of blackmail (from things even less consequential than a shower video).

Both as part of my duties as an NCO, and now as a volunteer for several veterans organizations, I have been trained to assist people who have been victims of sexual assault in the armed forces. According to what I have been taught, and heard from victims; very few of these incidents are physical asaults, mostly they are by various forms of exploitation or intimidation. I can better understand an inexperienced trainee in their late teens or early twenties being exploited. Yet mature adaults, who have experinced deployments, even combat, have been exploited.

I have read, and been taught, that "predators" can often detect victims (people who are suseptable to coercion, and often unwilling to report vicimization). There is some data that "victims" sometimes gravitate to predators. Not that every victim significantly contributes to their peril. However, some do. At least they do things that make them vulnerable, and too often don't go to others for assistance.

Even back in the "stone age" of the 1970's I remember being taught "Danger Stranger" and other potential risks of exploitation. In Basic Training, and every year in the US Army, I, and all other troops were trained in avoiding sexual assault, blackmail, and abduction; if you did become a victim, we were made aware of options for reporting, and that victims would be protected and perpatrators punished.

Yes, I know that too often abusers got away with their crimes, and victims suffered additional humiliation and other punishments. Many exploiters, up to Generals, Admirals, and Senior NCOs were punished. Corporate CEOs and Movie Moguls have been punished too. J. Epstine, and others have been punished. POTUS Clinton got away with his exploitation of unwilling victims. Many other well documanted examples either way.

Too many of the RL tales I have heard of sexual exploitaion I have silently wondered why the victim didn't avail themselves of multiple ways to avoid becoming a victim. Then there are the incidents where it seems clear the predator was quite cunning and the victim had few oportunities to have avoided the situation.

There are Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics I won't bother quoting any of the specific statistics. I believe that many of the numbers are inflated. However, I believe that in excess of 5%, or 1 in 20 of females (and at least 3 in 100 males) have been victims of sexual exploitation. (Yes, I am Understating what are probably the numbers!)

I find it sadly too believable that a fourteen year old girl could be blaackmailed into sex. Or an eighteen year old, a twenty-four year old, etc.

Would every female be blackmailed? No. But too many could be. Males too. There is considerable documentation that predators have exploited dozens, even hundreds of victims before getting caught.

Are mere nude pictures, or an "innocent" video ehough? Yup! Rationally, a nude video of a person in a shower shouldn't be embarassing. Who really expects to be spied upon while showering? Would your parents "blame" you for being naked in the shower? Predators know (have learned) how to get a person "off balance" then exploiting their vulnerablities.

Not nearly the same, but during my second deployment to Iraq, I was taking a shower at a time that most of the rest of my unit was sleeping. I heard the door to the Staff NCO shower trailer unit open, but no one seemed to have come in. I stuck my head out of the shower stall and saw one of the Nigerian "security gurads" (for D-Facs and towers at JBB) staring at me with "dead eyes" I didn't usually bring my M-4 (carbine) with me to shower; I did have a knife, and this time also a pistol, in my shower kit. I stepped out of the shower and grabbed my pistol (in violation of regs I had not only a mag in the pistol, but a round in the chamber). The dude fled. I considered persuing him in all my naked glory...

After I finished my shower, I met with our Platoon Sergeant, and mentioned the incident to him. He asked why I didn't just shoot him? They were forbidden to be in our billeting areas. I told him (my PLT SGT), you'd have killed me because of all the paperwork. We both laughed. Later, at the daily briefing, the Platoon Sergeant cautioned all of our men to be armed when going to the latrines/showers.

Dozens, probably hundreds of men and women were raped in the shower units of JBB (Joint Base Balad).

Callousness is probably accurate, however, I believe that many victims have contributed to their victimization. They have failed to take percautions. When in a situation, that usually had few consequences, they none-the-less, allowed themselves to be coerced into becoming a victim (or even criminaly liable) when they should have just reported the situation.

Write Your Story however you want, however, blackmailing a teen (or others) with a shower video, or other "trivial" leverage is sadly all too common.

To be clear, this, and other circumstance just don't "click" for what you want in your story. I am not critisizing you. Rather, I am providing a perspective that I have been trained in, to assit others (or as part of my military duties). I am also influenced by some people, mostly women, who have informed me about their own experiences, or those of victims.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Marius-6

I believe that in excess of 5%, or 1 in 20 of females

Recently a British activist MP claimed that 50% of all women had suffered some form of sexual assault.

AJ

mrherewriting ๐Ÿšซ

@Chris Crescent

What might an innocent virginal teenage girl have done that's so embarrassing it leaves her open to blackmail?

Lost her bible.

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