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New Horatio Hornblower Novels

JimWar ๐Ÿšซ

I know we have discussed copyright on here until it should be a dead subject but I just saw a new series of seven novels on Amazon by James Keffer that continue the Hornblower saga. Now I know C.S.Forrester is deceased but would think that his characters would be still under copyright and protected by his estate.

Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@JimWar

The James Keffer books have been published by a small dead tree publisher that claims to specialize in up and coming authors. Given that, I think it likely that there is some kind of deal with Forrester's estate.

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JimWar ๐Ÿšซ
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@Dominions Son

I'll have to download one from Amazon and see what his copyright notice or foreword says then. It might be good reading if it's legit. Did that and if this is the case then it is not mentioned in the standard copyright notice or in the book.

Replies:   Dominions Son  Dinsdale
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@JimWar

If it's not legit, a lawsuit against the publisher by Forrester's estate is likely.

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Marius-6 ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

Hopefully the new Horatio Hornblower novels are much better than...

Winnie the Pooh Blood and Honey

There is no longer copyright protection for the 100 Acre Wood, Winnie the Pooh, nor Christopher Robin...

So, some Jack@ss made a movie abusing the Winnie the Pooh characters, turning WP into a sadistic serial killer, and seemingly deliberately shatting out a Depraved and utterly meritless abomination.

Almost as if "someone" wants to provoke governments to extend copyright ยฉ๏ธ regulations
๐Ÿค”

Dinsdale ๐Ÿšซ

@JimWar

I'm not sure how relevant this is, but one or two of Argon's https://storiesonline.net/universe/102/anthony-carter universe have references to characters in those stories.
Of course there is some Harry Potter stuff here which is not particularly close to the spirit of the original stories.

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JimWar ๐Ÿšซ

@Dinsdale

Yes, but in the Anthony Carter Universe the Hornblower reference is a small one and in no way is he an actual prominent character. It's almost like an advertisement, in effect, getting readers like me to finally go out and buy those books. I was never a Sea and Sword reader until I read "In the Navy." There are plenty of good reads out there without additional Hornblower novels.

Replies:   StarFleet Carl
StarFleet Carl ๐Ÿšซ

@JimWar

Sea and Sword reader until I read "In the Navy." There are plenty of good reads out there without additional Hornblower novels.

Is it a sign of my dirty and perverted mind that I read that as Semen Sword Swallower? I mean - Horn Blower? They go down on the seamen in ships?

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Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@StarFleet Carl

Is it a sign of my dirty and perverted mind that I read that as Semen Sword Swallower? I mean - Horn Blower? They go down on the seamen in ships?

So what is the Ho Ratio?

Argon ๐Ÿšซ

@JimWar

On the website of the C.S. Forester Society (anybody wants the link, write to me) the Keffer stories are reviewed as fanfiction, first self published and now picked up by a small publisher.
If you want to read stories similar to the Hornblower saga, you may want to try C. Northcote Parkinson's Richard Delancey stories. There are six of them about a Navy officer from Guernsey and his rocky career, often impeded by politics and lack of "interest" in London. Parkinson is best known for "Parkinson's Law", but he was a trained and published naval historian who wrote non-fiction treatises about British naval trade in the early 19th century. He is closer to Aubrey than to Forester in style and accuracy. His books are available at online bookstores or as dead-tree books in the female-warrior-online-store.
PS: He also wrote a fictional biography fo Horatio Hornblower which is fun to read as it fills several gaps in H.H.'s vita that Forester did not close. That work was published with the blessing of the Forester estate.
Of course, Jack Aubrey has redifined the genre with his books, so he is also a tempting alternative to fanfiction, but he is so well known that I won't bore you with my interpretation of his works.
As to my own allusions to H.H., the character is now referred to as "Captain Horace Bugler" in the 2020 re-edit of "In The Navy". He still appears as H.H. in "Ellen", but only for as long as I'll need to fix that. What can I say, I was young and needed the name recognition ๐Ÿ˜‰

Replies:   Dinsdale
Dinsdale ๐Ÿšซ

@Argon

That, for me, falls under "was not broke, but was fixed anyway". There's nothing wrong with having fictional characters interacting with other fictional characters.

richardshagrin ๐Ÿšซ

@JimWar

I posted this in November 2018 but it probably needs to be repeated. "How Horatio Hornblower got his name. He had a trumpet he played to indicate, by how long and how loud he blew, the relative number of whores in the ports they were about to enter. The Whore Ratio Horn Blower.

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madnige ๐Ÿšซ

@richardshagrin

I posted this in November 2018 but it probably needs to be repeated.

Yes, but not until after November 2028, December 2032 now, or with penalty for early posting this time, not before the (32-bit) Unix time rollover.

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