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TMax 🚫

Ok, an annoyance, maybe a bit of a rant, but also an observation that others likely have noticed.

1) Why do people post a question in a discussion forum - what is ____??? - Why would they not just Google it?

2) Why do people answer them? Why not just say - Google it?

3) No three - but apparently, AI likes three points for everything, and since every post needs to talk about AI at some point, I added it here.

4) Because I just thought about it, bets on:
a) Number of people who will defend their right to ask Google-able questions?
b) Number of people who will defend their right to respond to those people?
c) Number of trolls that will eat little people off the bridge (old, not sure how trolls work anymore - maybe I need to Google the meaning)?
d) Number of total responses off topic or ask if AI will replace our overlords?
e) How many of you think that the world is secretly controlled by one group of people/aliens?
f) How many of you do not think that the world is secretly controlled by one group of people/aliens, and that scares you more?
g) I think I like lists
h) Are you still reading, seriously, like, why?

Cheers, and Happy New Year,

fohjoffs 🚫

@TMax

I do not know. You should probably just google it to get these questions answered.

awnlee jawking 🚫

@TMax

Why do people post a question in a discussion forum - what is ____??? - Why would they not just Google it?

I personally have abused this privilege when I've been thwarted by Google. My perception is that Google now indexes fewer pages and employs AI to 'correct' anyone who is searching for something not commonly asked for.

But I too share your exasperation at posters who ask trivial general knowledge questions in the Author Hangout despite their not being authors and the questions being readily answerable by Google.

Happy New Year, even though scientifically the new year ought to start on the winter solstice rather than as dictated by religious superstition.

AJ

Replies:   jimq2  Paladin_HGWT
jimq2 🚫

@awnlee jawking

Happy New Year, even though scientifically the new year ought to start on the winter solstice rather than as dictated by religious superstition.

Isn't that from another religious superstition? Druids maybe?

awnlee jawking 🚫

@jimq2

Druids maybe?

Druids sound viable suspects, but I just think it's logical for the switchover to occur when days stop getting shorter and start to get longer again. Those in the southern hemisphere might object, but what have the southern hemisphericals ever done for us!

AJ

Replies:   Bondi Beach
Bondi Beach 🚫

@awnlee jawking

object, but what have the southern hemisphericals ever done for us!

I don't know about you, but it's not only at the swimming pool that I enjoy looking casually at a number of paired southern hemisphericals.

~ JBB

Replies:   samuelmichaels
samuelmichaels 🚫

@Bondi Beach

paired southern hemisphericals

Well-played!

Michael Loucks 🚫

@jimq2

Isn't that from another religious superstition? Druids maybe?

And there are equal arguments for Midsummer (Midsommar). That's my preference, but we're stuck with the two-faced god Janus, rather than March 1st as the Romans originally intended (hence why the leap day is at the end of February.

If I were to create a new calendar, I'd set up 13 4-week months, with leap days following Midsummer. Neither Midsummer nor the leap day would be days of a week, and thus the 1st day of every month would be a Monday, and you'd always know what day of the week a particular day was, year-in, year-out.

jimq2 🚫

@Michael Loucks

I'd set up 13 4-week months

That leaves you short a day, and if you add a day in mid year the following months would no longer start on a Monday. 365 is not evenly divisible by 7.

Replies:   Michael Loucks
Michael Loucks 🚫
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@jimq2

That leaves you short a day, and if you add a day in mid year the following months would no longer start on a Monday. 365 is not evenly divisible by 7.

Go back and read what I wrote:

Neither Midsummer nor the leap day would be days of a week

28*13 = 364
Midsummer = 1

Total 365. Leap day follows Midsummer, and is not a day of the weak, either. They're both intercalary days.

Diamond Porter 🚫

@Michael Loucks

It sounds as if you are influenced by the hobbits' calendar (LoTR, Appendix D) though that has 30-day months with 5 or 6 non-month days.

Personally, I like the idea of fixing the dates of the solstices and equinoxes, and inserting the occasional extra day in whichever season requires it. I am aware of several problems with this idea.

Replies:   Michael Loucks
Michael Loucks 🚫

@Diamond Porter

It sounds as if you are influenced by the hobbits' calendar (LoTR, Appendix D) though that has 30-day months with 5 or 6 non-month days.

Not really. I remembered that, but it, like the FaerΓ»n calendar from the Forgotten Realms campaign material for D&D 3.5e, were overly complicated with too many intercalary days.

I simply worked out the basic math and created a standard, easy-to-use, easy-to-remember system that met the needs of my fantasy world to be used in an upcoming publication on ZBookstore/Bookapy and SOL.

TheDarkKnight 🚫

@Michael Loucks

"Midsommer" is a great movie.

Replies:   Michael Loucks
Michael Loucks 🚫

@TheDarkKnight

"Midsommer" is a great movie.

It is. I speak Swedish, so I could understand all the dialog (as they intentionally didn't include subtitles in the initial release to create an air of mystery).

Paladin_HGWT 🚫

@awnlee jawking

Happy New Year, even though scientifically the new year ought to start on the winter solstice rather than as dictated by religious superstition.

Most of the world uses a calendar based not upon any religion, but upon the whims of a Roman Emperor. Russia, and some other places follow the calendar of a different Roman Emperor. The traditional Roman Calendar was not (particularly) religious; it had ten equal months, with a few 'extra' days at year end. Then they added extra months for Julius Caesar, and then Caesar Agustus; of course, those months 'deserved' extra days...

People of the Islamic Uma / Arabs, among others follow a Lunar Calendar.

China, Japan, and other Asian nations follow their own calendars, but for most purposes follow the Western European/American calendar.

Pixy 🚫

@TMax

1) Why do people post a question in a discussion forum rather than Googling

Sometimes the answer required is not the obvious and succinct one generally given out by Google. Sometimes people ask a question here, not for the answer, but the path to the answer.

For instance "How do I load A into B?" Google might say "Pull part D back and load A". Which is technically correct. Users here might say "When you pull part D of B back, part F catches on your hand and it hurts like hell, and when you release D, the noise is like nails on a blackboard..." As a storyteller, which version would you rather have to tell your readers and help them live the part of your character?

REP 🚫

@TMax

Google can be a pain-in-the-ass to use. It displays every possible thing and most you don't want.

REP

Pixy 🚫

@TMax

2) Why do people answer them? Why not just say - Google it?

Following on from my previous reply, the answer to your question could easily be because Google only gives technical answers. Like; "To access A you need to remove B" which is technically correct, but someone who does the act in question might reply with "To access A, you need to remove B, but you need heat to remove B which will damage part F, so you need to remove part F. Also, if you have normal sized hands, you are not getting them in there, so you need to remove part Y to give you the space to remove part A. And on reinstallation, you need to smother some compound V on the threads of part B..." These are all 'tricks of the trade' that Google may not report, and it's hard won experience that some people like to share to make a complete strangers life that little bit easier...

awnlee jawking 🚫

@TMax

Showing you the results for 'Herd of Googles'.

Show results instead for 'Heard of Google'?

:-)

AJ

BlacKnight 🚫

@TMax

Google has been getting increasingly worthless as they prioritize pushing their slop machine over actually finding websites for you. I don't remember if I've mentioned it here before, but I have, on more than one occasion, had Google give me an "AI Overview" that was an obvious paraphrasing of the first actual result β€” which had been pushed below the fold by all the slop and paid placement β€” but with a critical "not" omitted, thus completely reversing the meaning of it.

jimq2 🚫

@TMax

I've seen multiple times where the AI summary has been wrong, even giving false information.

tendertouch 🚫

@TMax

1) Why do people post a question in a discussion forum - what is ____??? - Why would they not just Google it?

2) Why do people answer them? Why not just say - Google it?

1) Could be because they prefer interacting with other humans, or maybe because they're having trouble formulation the question.

2) Because I try not to be a jerk.

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