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"Up for archival" stories worth reading

BlinkReader

I discovered another source for my searches here:
Stories in list "Up for Archival"

Today there I found "Song of Thanks" from Grampy (story I read long time ago).

awnlee jawking

When I sorted the 'Up for Archival' list by score, stories without scores were interspersed amongst the stories with scores. Does anyone know why this is?

AJ

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son
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@awnlee jawking


When I sorted the 'Up for Archival' list by score, stories without scores were interspersed amongst the stories with scores. Does anyone know why this is?


This will happen with all the story lists sorted by score.

The reason goes to how the scores are calculated. The top and bottom %5 of scores are removed before the raw scores are averaged.

However, if a story has less than 20 votes, 5% is less than one vote, so none are removed.

Because of this, the scores for stories with more than one but less than 20 votes are not displayed, but technically, the story does still have a score under the hood.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking

@Dominions Son

Am I right in thinking that for stories old enough to be archived, it wasn't possible to switch off voting? The second lowest ranked story has a score.

AJ

Ernest Bywater
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@awnlee jawking


Am I right in thinking that for stories old enough to be archived, it wasn't possible to switch off voting?


correct. switching off voting is an author decision and the default is voting on. If the author hasn't logged into SoL for 5 years there stories go up for archival, so if they didn't turn voting off 5 years ago they won't be doing it today.

edit to add: and the ones not showing a score are simply due to insufficient votes being lodged, as DS explained.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking

@Ernest Bywater

if they didn't turn voting off 5 years ago


If they did turn off voting 5 years ago, where would they appear in the sorted list?

AJ

Replies:   Ernest Bywater
Ernest Bywater

@awnlee jawking

If they did turn off voting 5 years ago, where would they appear in the sorted list?


yes, right at the bottom as they'd have a score of zero.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking

@Ernest Bywater

yes, right at the bottom as they'd have a score of zero.


The second lowest-ranked story has a visible score and is by the same author as the lowest-ranked story, suggesting that none of the 75 stories up for archive had scoring switched off - that's why I asked whether it was possible five years ago.

AJ

Replies:   Ernest Bywater
Ernest Bywater
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@awnlee jawking


- that's why I asked whether it was possible five years ago.


I can't speak for the turning scoring on and off for the whole life span of SoL, however, I can say it's been possible to do for the past 13 years. The default is scoring on, so that's the usual case since few authors go to the trouble to turn the scoring off. To disable the scoring requires an active decision and a few minutes work by the author, and it always has.

As to the display of scores, that's an automated activity. As soon as a single vote is cast a story has a score, but it doesn't display until after 20 votes have been cast. It's always been that way so the few early scores won't influence the early readers. The not display until 20 votes aspect was a part of the system for years before the change to remove the top and bottom 5% of votes.

The end result is when you see a list of stories displayed in score order you can know the one without a displayed score has a score lower than the one above it and higher than the one below it. However, the stories with no votes at all or scoring is off will all be displayed at the bottom of a descending order list in what is effectively a random order. You also can't tell them from the lower scoring under 20 votes just above them.

It's when no score is displayed that the download count helps you to decide how frequently the story is read. Only a small percentage of story downloads result in vote, and that varies with authors and genres.

Dominions Son

@awnlee jawking

Am I right in thinking that for stories old enough to be archived, it wasn't possible to switch off voting? The second lowest ranked story has a score.


You are correct, but that's not relevant to the issue you noted. Stories where voting was turned off from the beginning have no score at all and won't show up at all in a list filtered by score, unlike the stories that don't show a score but have at least one and less than 20 votes.

BlinkReader

Another Author has joined this list:
Vlfouquet

For anybody who didn't read his stories, read them.
They are worth reading...

Replies:   docholladay
docholladay

@BlinkReader

Another storyteller who has passed on. According to the profile available from the Author's page.

BlinkReader
Updated:

Another author has joined to this list:

Flighttime

And his little gem: Prelude.

...

Edit 2018/07/25

I just noticed that he returned to active list.
And renamed his little gem, story is now called:

"The Wind That Drives the Sail"

BlinkReader

For every fur and aliens lover - another good author went "dark":

Brian in the Dark.

For who ever still didn't read his stories from "Dizynitk Imperium" - I can recomend them...

BlinkReader

He is "Conflicted".

He is Eldridge, and wrote one of very well received stories here (see above).

And he too is going to be archived ... :(

BlinkReader

Starscape is another author that's going to be archived.

He wrote two good (finished) stories:
- "Intended"
and
- "Two in the Bush"

They are worth reading...

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