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"Up for archival" stories worth reading

BlinkReader

I discovered another source for my searches here:
Stories in list "Up for Archival"

Today there I found "Song of Thanks" from Grampy (story I read long time ago).

awnlee jawking

When I sorted the 'Up for Archival' list by score, stories without scores were interspersed amongst the stories with scores. Does anyone know why this is?

AJ

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son
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@awnlee jawking


When I sorted the 'Up for Archival' list by score, stories without scores were interspersed amongst the stories with scores. Does anyone know why this is?


This will happen with all the story lists sorted by score.

The reason goes to how the scores are calculated. The top and bottom %5 of scores are removed before the raw scores are averaged.

However, if a story has less than 20 votes, 5% is less than one vote, so none are removed.

Because of this, the scores for stories with more than one but less than 20 votes are not displayed, but technically, the story does still have a score under the hood.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking

@Dominions Son

Am I right in thinking that for stories old enough to be archived, it wasn't possible to switch off voting? The second lowest ranked story has a score.

AJ

Ernest Bywater
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@awnlee jawking


Am I right in thinking that for stories old enough to be archived, it wasn't possible to switch off voting?


correct. switching off voting is an author decision and the default is voting on. If the author hasn't logged into SoL for 5 years there stories go up for archival, so if they didn't turn voting off 5 years ago they won't be doing it today.

edit to add: and the ones not showing a score are simply due to insufficient votes being lodged, as DS explained.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking

@Ernest Bywater

if they didn't turn voting off 5 years ago


If they did turn off voting 5 years ago, where would they appear in the sorted list?

AJ

Replies:   Ernest Bywater
Ernest Bywater

@awnlee jawking

If they did turn off voting 5 years ago, where would they appear in the sorted list?


yes, right at the bottom as they'd have a score of zero.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking

@Ernest Bywater

yes, right at the bottom as they'd have a score of zero.


The second lowest-ranked story has a visible score and is by the same author as the lowest-ranked story, suggesting that none of the 75 stories up for archive had scoring switched off - that's why I asked whether it was possible five years ago.

AJ

Replies:   Ernest Bywater
Ernest Bywater
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@awnlee jawking


- that's why I asked whether it was possible five years ago.


I can't speak for the turning scoring on and off for the whole life span of SoL, however, I can say it's been possible to do for the past 13 years. The default is scoring on, so that's the usual case since few authors go to the trouble to turn the scoring off. To disable the scoring requires an active decision and a few minutes work by the author, and it always has.

As to the display of scores, that's an automated activity. As soon as a single vote is cast a story has a score, but it doesn't display until after 20 votes have been cast. It's always been that way so the few early scores won't influence the early readers. The not display until 20 votes aspect was a part of the system for years before the change to remove the top and bottom 5% of votes.

The end result is when you see a list of stories displayed in score order you can know the one without a displayed score has a score lower than the one above it and higher than the one below it. However, the stories with no votes at all or scoring is off will all be displayed at the bottom of a descending order list in what is effectively a random order. You also can't tell them from the lower scoring under 20 votes just above them.

It's when no score is displayed that the download count helps you to decide how frequently the story is read. Only a small percentage of story downloads result in vote, and that varies with authors and genres.

Dominions Son

@awnlee jawking

Am I right in thinking that for stories old enough to be archived, it wasn't possible to switch off voting? The second lowest ranked story has a score.


You are correct, but that's not relevant to the issue you noted. Stories where voting was turned off from the beginning have no score at all and won't show up at all in a list filtered by score, unlike the stories that don't show a score but have at least one and less than 20 votes.

BlinkReader

Another Author has joined this list:
Vlfouquet

For anybody who didn't read his stories, read them.
They are worth reading...

Replies:   docholladay
docholladay

@BlinkReader

Another storyteller who has passed on. According to the profile available from the Author's page.

BlinkReader
Updated:

Another author has joined to this list:

Flighttime

And his little gem: Prelude.

...

Edit 2018/07/25

I just noticed that he returned to active list.
And renamed his little gem, story is now called:

"The Wind That Drives the Sail"

BlinkReader

For every fur and aliens lover - another good author went "dark":

Brian in the Dark.

For who ever still didn't read his stories from "Dizynitk Imperium" - I can recomend them...

BlinkReader

He is "Conflicted".

He is Eldridge, and wrote one of very well received stories here (see above).

And he too is going to be archived ... :(

BlinkReader

Starscape is another author that's going to be archived.

He wrote two good (finished) stories:
- "Intended"
and
- "Two in the Bush"

They are worth reading...

BlinkReader

After a long time, here is (for me) a good message:

" No stories are up for archiving at the moment."

Hope it stays so for a long time, meaning no one more author is inactive for more than five years :)

Replies:   Keet
Keet

@BlinkReader

After a long time, here is (for me) a good message:

" No stories are up for archiving at the moment."

Hope it stays so for a long time, meaning no one more author is inactive for more than five years :)

That wasn't very long: Will Bailey is up for archival.

BlinkReader

Unfortunately yes :(

He had some really brilliant stories, like "Rachel"

He is really worth reading...

Replies:   Keet  psnz
Keet

@BlinkReader

He had some really brilliant stories, like "Rachel"

He is really worth reading...

The score is indeed very high but I will skip that one. The Ma/mt mt/mt and Lolita are not my thing.

psnz

@BlinkReader

Thanks to the recommendations here, I've been reading/rereading Will Bailey's stories. Some really good stuff.

BlinkReader

Again a ray of sunshine:

"No stories are up for archiving at the moment"

Hope this time stays so longer ...

Vlad_Inhaler

There is an author who died in September 2013 and I was rather surprised to note that his stories are still "normal".
Away from SoL, stories enter the public domain after n years (where n is a number which keeps increasing), things work the other way around here.

Replies:   tendertouch
tendertouch

@Vlad_Inhaler

I hadn't looked at Celtic Cowboy's page in a while. I wonder if his son has visited on his account since then?

Replies:   BlinkReader
BlinkReader
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@tendertouch


I hadn't looked at Celtic Cowboy's page in a while


Sorry, but no luck :(

He is now another good one in this "Up for Archival" list.

I'm very fond of his stories, from "The Hummingbird" to "Finding Peace".

So for anyone who still didn't read his stories and doesn't have premium account - read them while you still can ...

psnz

Seems that Auntie Chastity is now Up For Archival.

If anyone's looking for a story to read, I'd thoroughly recommend her Dinner in the diner.

psnz
Updated:

I notice that obohobo's stories are Up For Archival. There's some good reading there with 95 stories available for your perusal.

BlinkReader

Doom Rains - author who wrote mostly poems (even if you may can call them very short stories), is another one on this ever growing list.

If you haven't done so - I'm suggesting you to read at least his "Ode to a soldier".

Replies:   madnige  richardshagrin
madnige

@BlinkReader

Doom Rains ... I'm suggesting you to read at least his "Ode to a soldier".


Better hurry, they're due to expire early Wednesday (10th Apr); OTOH, four of the seven are listed as 0k, so don't count as a download for basic members on a limited download count (I don't know how that interacts with premier-only once they've expired).

richardshagrin

@BlinkReader

"Ode to a soldier"

An alternate opinion, I don't think it is worth reading. It is very short so it won't waste a lot of time, but the character is about as cardboard as they come, very hard to feel any emotional contact with his death.

Replies:   BlinkReader
BlinkReader
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@richardshagrin

Another one bytes the dust: Prince von Vlox.

From Devlin's stroy to Series about Kaliste he wrote some intriguing stories...

And to @richardshagrin:

Of course it's short. What do you want - epic adventure in couple millions words?

It's always much harder to say something with just a few words, and for me that's was the reason more to mention that story/poem here...

Replies:   Vlad_Inhaler
Vlad_Inhaler

@BlinkReader

Bruce aka Prince von Vlox died at the start of June 2015, he must have stopped "coming here" over a year before that. He was still posting stories on GMW's site until shortly before the end.
I miss several authors here, but he was - along with Wes Boyd - right at the very top.

BlinkReader

Another one bytes a dust: CMSIX

I think anyone browsing written words somewhere around must be familiar with his works ...

Replies:   Ernest Bywater  karactr
Ernest Bywater

@BlinkReader

Another one bytes a dust: CMSIX


While he's no longer active, he is still alive in Texas and in poor health.

Replies:   gmontgomery
gmontgomery
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@Ernest Bywater

It's too bad seminal writers like csmix can't be waivered from archiving.

LonelyDad

It's not the only reason, but there has to be some incentive to pay the money. I know, some of us can't afford it, but others can, and this is one way to encourage them.

karactr

@BlinkReader

As much as I have seen that name mentioned, you would think I would have read some, but I apparently haven't. Looking through the listings it is probably because many of the stories are rewrites that were never completed. Is there someplace that I can find those in the complete, un-rewritten form before I get into them?

Replies:   docholladay  rustyken
docholladay

@karactr

Sending you another address for some of his stories, including the original version of the Nanovirus before the rewrite began.

Replies:   karactr
karactr

@docholladay

TY

BlacKnight

I mean, you only need one cmsix story.

Maybe two if you want both "incomplete story about a Texan taking modern technology back to the Old West and collecting a harem" and "incomplete story about a Texan taking modern technology back to prehistory and collecting a harem".

Replies:   Vlad_Inhaler  AmigaClone
Vlad_Inhaler

@BlacKnight

There was a little bit more variation than that, but not a whole lot more - especially towards the end.

AmigaClone

@BlacKnight

On of the other types of stories you forgot was along the lines of "incomplete story about a Texan taking modern technology back to the Middles Ages and collecting a harem"

But yes, most of cmsix's stories were either part of the NanoVirus "universe" or along the lines of "Modern Texan goes to past (or is sent there by aliens) with modern technology and collects a harem.

Replies:   Franco
Franco
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@AmigaClone

cmsix tried to do what Heinlein and Asimov (less successfully than Heinlein) did by linking all his stories into an all encompassing universe. I never understood the motive for that. Red and Victor (which is his first story I read and which is listed as complete) differs a little from his usual template, though eventually there are aliens and a harem.

I was glad to read he is still alive. I hope things go well for him.

rustyken

@karactr

I think CMIX's story Nanovirus was his best story, and I believe it was completed. I don't know whether it is still on SOL or not.

Cheers

Replies:   Keet
Keet

@rustyken

The rewrite of NanoVirus is still on SOL but incomplete. I don't know if the original version was completed. If it was I hope someone can point me to a place where it's still available.

Replies:   Ernest Bywater  rustyken
Ernest Bywater

@Keet

If it was I hope someone can point me to a place where it's still available.


The last time I checked ASSTR it was there. Along with the finished original John and Argent. When he wanted to repost them by making changes to link them together he had them pulled from SoL to have only the new versions there.

Replies:   Keet
Keet

@Ernest Bywater

I got a PM that pointed me to the original NanoVirus. There's no finished John and Argent on ASSTR though.

Replies:   Ernest Bywater  Remus2
Ernest Bywater

@Keet

I've issues checking out ASSTR now, but I coulda sworn there had been one there 2 years back. However, it appears I may be wrong and have had my halo slip a little.

Replies:   doctor_wing_nut
doctor_wing_nut

@Ernest Bywater

They're still there, as of a minute ago. I have his page bookmarked, but there's no completed version of the Nanovirus re-write.

I've enjoyed a few of his stories. Nanovirus and John and Argent are really quite good.

Replies:   Ernest Bywater
Ernest Bywater

@doctor_wing_nut

Th re-writes were never finished. The changes were to weld the two stories together towards the end of them. However, the original stories were finished prior to the re-write starting, and that's what I think he's looking for.

Remus2

@Keet

Sent you a message before reading this post. Please ignore message.

rustyken

@Keet

If the original is 46 Chapters then I believe I still have it. The file date is I believe 2005.

Cheers

Replies:   Keet
Keet

@rustyken

If the original is 46 Chapters then I believe I still have it. The file date is I believe 2005.

Cheers

The original I got from ASSTR is 45 chapters and it says "The End" at the bottom.

Replies:   madnige
madnige

@Keet

Still on ASSTR at https://www.asstr.org/~cmsix/nanovirusov/nanovirusov045.htm

Replies:   Keet
Keet

@madnige

Still on ASSTR at https://www.asstr.org/~cmsix/nanovirusov/nanovirusov045.htm

Yes, that's the one I was pointing out.

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