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NC-Retired ๐Ÿšซ

You know, Fuck Around Find Out.

Many tales here on SOL feature FAFO scenes. Some have many FAFO scenes.

These authors have one to many tales featuring FAFO.

https://storiesonline.net/a/aubie56
https://storiesonline.net/a/sw-mo-hermit
https://storiesonline.net/a/TRix
https://storiesonline.net/a/old-man-with-a-pen
https://storiesonline.net/a/ernest-bywater
https://storiesonline.net/a/colt45
https://storiesonline.net/a/Ka_Hmnd
https://storiesonline.net/a/The_Blind_Man
https://storiesonline.net/a/cmsix
https://storiesonline.net/a/Howard_Faxon
https://storiesonline.net/a/woodmanone
https://storiesonline.net/a/jryter
https://storiesonline.net/a/kraken

In no particular order but from my history. Some are premium primarily because they're dead and haven't logged in.

I'm sure you have your favorite authors that write FAFO scenes in their tales.

What authors are your favorites?

Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ
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@NC-Retired

That's a slogan used by the Proud Boys. FAFO = mess with them and you'll be sorry. But I assume you mean the traditional meaning. :-)

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Switch Blayde

I assume you mean the traditional meaning.

I googled it but I'm none the wiser :-(

AJ

Replies:   Switch Blayde
Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

I googled it but I'm none the wiser :-(

Fuck Around and Find Out

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Switch Blayde

Fuck Around and Find Out

Yes, that what google turned up. But what does it mean?

'Fuck Around' I understand but where does 'Find Out' fit in? Is it a threat? Is it divination?

AJ

Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

'Find Out' fit in? Is it a threat?

Yes, a threat. Mess with me and you'll find out what happens to you.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Switch Blayde

Yes, a threat. Mess with me and you'll find out what happens to you.

Thanks.

AJ

ralord82276 ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

FAFO is not a threat or a divination... its a promise. A promise that if you screw with me or mine, I will get revenge and it is an unspoken certainty that my revenge will be more destructive and painful than whatever you did that triggered it.

Replies:   NC-Retired
NC-Retired ๐Ÿšซ

@ralord82276

ralord..

Yes! ๐Ÿ’ฏ exactly!

Dicrostonyx ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

'Fuck Around' I understand but where does 'Find Out' fit in? Is it a threat? Is it divination?

FAFO is often said in similar situations to the phrase "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes".

Both idioms are suggesting that bad things happen to people who screw around. While some here are defining it as a threat, it's usually used in a more karmic perspective.

For example, if someone is pulled over while driving or is in court on a minor violation and messes around being annoying, they might get a worse punishment than if they'd just gone along. They fucked around and found out that the repercussions of doing so are severe. They played a stupid game and won a stupid (unwanted) "prize".

Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Dicrostonyx

While some here are defining it as a threat, it's usually used in a more karmic perspective.

I've seen "fuck around and find out" used as a counter threat more often than in a karmic sense.

"What if I come over there and kick your ass?"

"Fuck around and find out."

NC-Retired ๐Ÿšซ

@Dicrostonyx

FAFO is often said in similar situations to the phrase "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes".

On yewtoob do a search for brake checking semi trucks if y'all want a visual of FAFO.

Replies:   ralord82276
ralord82276 ๐Ÿšซ

@NC-Retired

Sorry NC... gotta disagree. Brake checking semi-trucks is much more PSG,WSP than FAFO. see my response to Dicrostonyx

ralord82276 ๐Ÿšซ

@Dicrostonyx

FAFO is specifically a promise of retaliation worse than the event that triggered it. "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes" is more about expected repercussions in any event where the triggering action is not that of a thoughtful, sane individual... like brake-checking a fully-loaded semi-truck traveling 60+ mph. Has nothing to do with retaliation usually (though in some circumstances it can) while FAFO is ALL about retaliation.

Replies:   Dicrostonyx
Dicrostonyx ๐Ÿšซ

@ralord82276

That may be the usage you've seen or even the original, but it isn't that specific in modern use. FAFO has been all over various social media sites for the last several years in a much less directly threatening use.

For example, IT and programmers have been using the term for several years in reference to less experienced programmers using tools and techniques that they don't fully understand. It's also being used these days in the body-cam & court-cam tubes in reference to people who escalate situations resulting in more serious charges/ sentences than they would otherwise have had.

I'm not saying that the promise of retaliation meaning is wrong, simply that it's not the main way the term is being used today, at least not in the contexts I've seen it.

NC-Retired ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

'Fuck Around' I understand but where does 'Find Out' fit in?

I found this tale on FB. Fits the FAFO theme.

"An old man was eating in a truck stop when three rough-looking bikers walked in. As they passed the old man, the first biker pushed his cigarette into the old man's pie, then laughed and took a seat at the counter. The second biker picked up the old man's milk and spit into it. The third biker turned over the old man's plate before joining the others at the counter.
Without saying a word to the laughing bikers, the old man put his money down, got up, and left the diner. One of the bikers said to the waitress, "Not much of a man, was he?"
The waitress replied," Not much of a truck driver either. He just backed his big rig over three motorcycles!"

ralord82276 ๐Ÿšซ

@NC-Retired

YES! This is exactly FAFO.. all about the retaliation which was worse than the triggering event.

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@NC-Retired

He just backed his big rig over three motorcycles!

Isn't there a SOL story in which that happens?

Your example confuses me. Don't the Fuck Arounders have to be aware of the threat of retaliation, and yet decide to Fuck Around anyway? Otherwise it's not much of a threat.

AJ

Replies:   ralord82276
ralord82276 ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

FAFO= not a threat... a promise...and doesn't have to be verbalized... just actioned upon. For people that live by FAFO, it is a measured, ingrained response to disrespect or hurts to ourselves or those we care about. Notice I said measured.. not proportionate. In fact the core belief of FAFO is that the response HAS to be worse and more painful than what triggered it. Otherwise the assholes won't learn not to FAFO.

Replies:   NC-Retired
NC-Retired ๐Ÿšซ

@ralord82276

FAFO= not a threat... a promise...and doesn't have to be verbalized... just actioned upon.

Thank you! I can't express it more clearly.

Paladin_HGWT ๐Ÿšซ
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@awnlee jawking

'Fuck Around' I understand but where does 'Find Out' fit in? Is it a threat? Is it divination?

It may be used as a threat. However, for at least thirty, if not more than forty years it has been used as a warning.

Perhaps the person who utters is implying they will be the source of retribution. More often it was: "If you Fuck Around with those explosives like that you will Find Out why you were warned to handle them in a safe manner!" (FAFO is an acronym that could be used implying the above, because if you saw someone behaving foolishly with explosive you understood the context; but in a Forum Thread I need to describe the situation being addressed.)

In addition to multiple instances of foolishness involving 'Demo' (Demolitions aka Explosives), I have heard FAFO used since the mid 1980's.

Some examples: Staff NCO was cutting an Artillery Simulator (waterproof cardboard cylinder containing "black powder" granular explosives to make a loud Boom and a Flash; using a grenade type fuse), after cutting the device in half he used his lighter to ignite the "powder" {broke his arm, and all the hair on his face including his moustache and eyebrows were burned off} That incident became an US Army wide "Safe-T-Gram"
Our Platoon Sergeant had warned FAFO when we saw him sawing on the device. We had continued on our mission, and didn't observe him igniting the device.

We saw a "Duce and a Half" (2 1/2 ton truck) that the cargo bed had been heavily damaged, partially blown out by the right side of the cab, with damage to the cab too. We were told that several 40mm grenades (such as used in an M203 or M79) had been left loose in the cargo bed. They arm by spinning; that is the safety, they have a contact fuse on the nose.

We didn't know for sure that it was an M203 grenade that had caused the damage, nor if it had armed by rolling around. We had been taught that an M203 grenade arms by spinning, to prevent premature detonation, if the projectile might pass through heavy vegetation, or go wild and impact a tree soon after firing. (Not that we completely trusted such a safety to always function.) But when some idiot started throwing a "live" (not a training "blue powder) M203 grenade up, spinning, and catching it; an NCO growled, FAFO! Causing the idiot to stop.

FAFO was used in context of:
Choosing a foolish bivouac (camping) site (prone to flooding) they set up their Battalion where assigned, and when it rained heavily during the night suffered dozens of casualties, thankfully no fatalities, and hundreds of thousands of dollars in equipment damage. (This had occurred numerous times over decades; admittedly the site has been used hundreds of times with no problems.) Our unit had been assigned to a section of that Bivouac Area, but our chain of command used their initiative, and we bivouacked elsewhere (on higher ground). One of our senior NCOs had suggested to a Sergeant Major of the other unit that they displace, or FAFO.

Foolish Driving.

Foolish behavior on a Rappelling Tower.

Various activities relating to Parachuting.

Provoking someone no prudent person would...

Etc.

FAFO has been used in the US armed forces for decades in the late 20th and early 21st centuries.

NC-Retired ๐Ÿšซ

@Switch Blayde

No, not those racist lads.

FAFO seems to my eye to be everywhere where swearing is allowed.

The "tradional" meaning of mess with me or mine and suffer the consequences.

NC-Retired ๐Ÿšซ

@NC-Retired

Now that definitions have been hashed out, back to the original question.

These are some of my favorite authors here on SOL that have scenes in their stories that have FAFO elements.

What authors are your favorites?

https://storiesonline.net/a/aubie56
https://storiesonline.net/a/sw-mo-hermit
https://storiesonline.net/a/TRix
https://storiesonline.net/a/old-man-with-a-pen
https://storiesonline.net/a/ernest-bywater
https://storiesonline.net/a/colt45
https://storiesonline.net/a/Ka_Hmnd
https://storiesonline.net/a/The_Blind_Man
https://storiesonline.net/a/cmsix
https://storiesonline.net/a/Howard_Faxon
https://storiesonline.net/a/woodmanone
https://storiesonline.net/a/jryter
https://storiesonline.net/a/kraken

Replies:   ralord82276
ralord82276 ๐Ÿšซ

@NC-Retired

I agree with a lot of the names on you list. One that is not on there is Xalir, specifically the retaliation in The Party. Lots of BTB stories would also fall under the FAFO list. What I like about Xalir's The Party is that when the MC found out about his wife being a diagnosed nymphomaniac, he didn't retaliate against her but went after all the "friends" that used her condition to violate his trust. Makes it more of a Burn The Bastards rather than Burn The Bitch with a reasonable explanation for why the "Bitch" was forgiven.

aiming4awesome ๐Ÿšซ

@NC-Retired

Tough to believe that nobody has yet mentioned, but the Needles and Delaney stories by Todd_d172 are quintessential FAFO:

https://storiesonline.net/a/todd-d172

I'd also recommend his Luther's Wars story for that.

Replies:   ikizotca
ikizotca ๐Ÿšซ

@aiming4awesome

aiming4awesome hits the mark with the Needles and Delaney recommendation starting with The Shack: an Angry Man

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