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Recs for two sea-yarns by Argon

Quasirandom 🚫

So I wrote up reviews for two of Argon's Anthony Carter stories, only to discover reviews are turned off. So I'm posting them here by way of promoting the tales. (Some repetition because they were meant to be read separately. Deal.)

The Return of Thomas Grey
If your response to "Napoleonic seafaring yarns spiced with romance?" is "Please!" then this is for you. Especially if you like your sea-yarns closer to C.S. Forester than Patrick O'Brian.

The titular Thomas goes to sea as a midshipman in 1806, and we watch his rise through the ranks through several sea-faring adventures until the Peace of 1814. (A sequel story, "Thomas Grey and the Hundred Days" takes us through Waterloo, plus "Thomas Grey and the Year Without Summer" covers the next couple years, much of it on land.) Excellent characterization and pacing make this a perfect sink-into-it read.

This is a late installment in a loosely connected series and, honestly, it's my favorite, especially in conjunction with the direct sequels. The earliest ones (especially the strictly naval yarns) feel like, well, retold Hornblower spiced with internet!porn, while in this (and other later-written ones), the author has developed his own voice for the era. There's still plenty of spicy sex, but it's better integrated and the tales better told.

Great fun. Strongly recommended.
9 / N/A / 10

Sea Fencibles
If your response to "Napoleonic seafaring yarns spiced with romance?" is "Please!" then this is for you. Though that said, this doesn't go out to sea. The Sea Fencibles were the Coast Guard of the era, with a focus on warding against sea attacks and foiling smuggling.

Wounded captain Jeremiah Anson has, for disability employment, been posted to the Fencibles on the coast of Devonshire. It's not serving the king on board a ship, but it's service and it pays. It's not a sinecure, either, as there's a lot of cleanup work to be done plus a few plots to unravel. The best part of the story, however, is the slow-burn romance with a squire's daughter who's also disabled, and how both of them heal.

Part of a series, but while it's chronologically second, it was written later and it shows. Argon had by this one developed his own voice for the era (earliest installments read like Hornblower spiced with internet!porn). Excellent characters, good plotting, and carefully controlled pacing make this a good read. Recommended.
9 / N/A / 9

richardshagrin 🚫
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@Quasirandom

If you haven't read all his stories, you are missing out on a lot of good stories.

Argon is a Nobel gas.

Quasirandom 🚫

@richardshagrin

If you haven't read all his stories, you are missing out on a lot of good stories.

Word.

awnlee jawking 🚫

@richardshagrin

Argon is a Nobel gas.

As well as a noble gas? ;-)

In which discipline did it win the award?

AJ

ystokes 🚫

@Quasirandom

It may be one of his shortest story but "One Gold Eagle" is a great read.

Replies:   Quasirandom
Quasirandom 🚫

@ystokes

Oh, you're right. Thanks for the pointer. (I don't often read short stories.)

ystokes 🚫

@Quasirandom

I tend to pass over stories less then 90-100k long only because I hate fast reads.

Argon 🚫

@Quasirandom

The earliest ones (especially the strictly naval yarns) feel like, well, retold Hornblower spiced with internet!porn

Thanks for the honest and constructive critique! Dinsdale alerted me to this thread, but I saw your entries in the Writer's Favourites, and I share your viewpoints regarding ITN. A completely rewritten edition of ITN, in three separate books, is currently in the making, addressing your points, but also fleshing out T.C.'s early and late career. The first fourteen chapters of ITN, even through numerous revisions over the years, has always been a beginner's effort at story telling. I hope to bring it up to scratch.
Sea Fencibles is still my favourite, but it, too, is undergoing a revision. There are a few continuity errors in the current version which escaped me before, and some language issues. I hope to present the new versions of all my seafaring stories by late 2023.
PS: I have not allowed reviews for quite some time, and I do not follow reviews. I value the Writer's Favourites though.

Replies:   Quasirandom  tg_smith64
Quasirandom 🚫

@Argon

Nice to hear. I look forward to the revised ITN!

Out of curiosity, how many of the series are you planning to revise, just the two?

Replies:   Argon
Argon 🚫

@Quasirandom

In a first step, all of the seafaring series: ITN, Sea Fencibles, Thomas Grey.
His Lucky Charm, too.
Ellen will also need a thorough rewrite of the first half; Classic Clitoris or not, the early chapters are not up to my standards anymore, and I love the characters too much to leave them stranded in poorly written surroundings ;o).
JΓΈrg Isebrand will also have to leave his teetotaler ways behind lest he will succumb to all sorts of nasty diseases which were transmitted through unclean well water :o). A received a feedback from a (female) historian who pointed out that drinking ale was a necessity in 16th century Germany.

Replies:   Quasirandom
Quasirandom 🚫

@Argon

Coo. Thankee.

Yeah, the first third or so of Ellen was a slog.

tg_smith64 🚫

@Argon

I must say I enjoyed ITN more than any of the Hornblower stories. Your words are your own, and if you feel that you must go back and improve the stories that's what you should do.

There is also something to be said for leaving them alone. Other authors on the site have gone back to older stories and their whole style has changed and clashes with the text they leave unchanged. Perhaps it would be a better use of your genius to create new stories rather than focus on old favorites.

ystokes 🚫

@Quasirandom

One thing I wish Argon would do is explain what the sailing terms mean so I don't have to stop and go google what double reef topsail means.

Replies:   Quasirandom  Argon
Quasirandom 🚫

@ystokes

Heh. Having once created the glossary for an anthology of sea stories, I can appreciate that! OTOH, having once created a glossary for sea stories, I didn't need much lift myself…

Argon 🚫

@ystokes

Would you rather have a glossary up front, or footnotes at first appearance?

Replies:   Dinsdale  ystokes
Dinsdale 🚫

@Argon

Separate document?

The "Bells" system should maybe appear there as well, although - after research - I found some of the usage in the stories to be ambiguous. Take "6 Bells" for example, it can mean:
- 03:00 (Middle Watch, midnight to 04:00)
- 07:00 (Morning Watch, 04:00 to 08:00)
- 11:00 (Forenoon Watch, 08:00 to 12:00)
- 15:00 (Afternoon Watch, 12:00 to 16:00)
- 19:00 (Last Dog Watch, 18:00 to 20:00)
- 23:00 (First Watch, 20:00 to midnight)
Missing is the First Dog Watch, 16:00 to 18:00 (8, 1, 2, 3, 4 Bells), the Last Dog Watch covers 4-8 Bells.

The idea behind having two Dog Watches was to make a total of seven, making sure crew members cycled through the Watches rather than being stuck on the same one all the time.

As to "double reef topsail", I'd guess that as meaning the topsail is scrunched up together so it does not catch the wind, permitting the ship to lose a bit of speed. Very useful when in a convoy or during a storm.

Maybe Quasirandom could supply his glossary to Argon.

Replies:   Quasirandom
Quasirandom 🚫

@Dinsdale

The glossary is, alas, not mine to share β€” it belongs to the anthology's editor, and I was just the copy editor. Not to mention, I'm not sure I even have the files …

ystokes 🚫

@Argon

Would you rather have a glossary up front, or footnotes at first appearance?

While I would prefer both if only get one I would prefer footnotes so I don't have to remember everything.

richardshagrin 🚫

@Quasirandom

Ar may be Augmented Reality. So he may be Augmented reality gone.

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