Forum: Editors/Reviewers Hangout

For a furry character with more than two, I suppose Furry might work to describe a dog-like female with six or so.

Not all female furies have the multi-breast thing going on.

Should we be looking for an "average breast" tag?

I have heard of men with big breast fetishes and men with small breast fetishes, I have never heard of a man with an average breast fetish.

Small breasts are sexier than large ones.

Speak for yourself. In my opinion naked breasts of any size are sexier than covered breasts of any size, but given a choice of bare breasts, I personally would gravitate to the larger breasts, provided they are natural and not so large as to be silly. Anything bigger than an E cup is too much and even smaller breasts can be unappealing if they are obviously implants.

Arial Winters just had a breast reduction at 17.

She's still a D cup after reduction. That's still larger than average. Anything bigger than an E is too much of a good thing.

I know. She's still too big (in my opinion). Although she's big all over.

I prefer women with a little meat on the bones so to speak. Voluptuous without being fat.

You may be looking for "Rubenesque" to describe the women painted by Rubens, mostly nude.

Anything bigger than an E is too much of a good thing.

It there's more than you can fit in to your hands or mouth it's just going to waste.

Seriously, what is "Erotica written in Indian Style"?

Book versions of porn films from Bollywood maybe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bollywood

ETA, See also Kama Sutra

I get confused by Indians from the Asian subcontinent and American Indians aka Native Americans or First Peoples (in Canada, mostly), that were at one time called Redskins, except in certain sports franchises that still uses the not very politically correct terms from our past.

Indian English is mostly spoken in India (duh) and sometimes by people who answer when you call a company for warrantee service, if its being handled there. Stories set in India have a few foreign terms for Aunt, servants, sometimes parents, and the food tends to be regional. There are Indian Restaurants in the US serving things like curries, lamb, sometimes goat. Hindus don't eat beef and Muslims, a minority within India, don't eat pork. Nan Bread is also an Indian Specialty, often flavored with different spices.

There are five Indian Erotica stories on SOL all by Ramprabhu. I recall a few other stories set in India on SOL, but they didn't turn up in my search.

By the looks of all the new story codes, the primary purpose is no longer to warn you about squicks.

I rather doubt that that was ever the primary purpose. I have been reading her for many years and I have certainly used them more for finding desired content than for avoiding squicks.

I still don't understand what Indian style erotica is. It can't be just that it takes place in India.

Actually, I think that is the central meaning. Or that it involves Indian (from India) characters, whether in India or abroad. Or Indian family life. Think Jewish or Italian, but of and by and about Indians. There are any number of Indian authors writing, some with better command of English than others. And there's Indian-Canadian, or Indian-American.

Mary-Anne Moharanj from the Golden Age of Porn (and an actual dead tree author) comes to mind, although her subjects were not always Indian.

And lots of Aunties.

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An Indian girl I used to chat with told me there are more Muslims in India than Hindus. They aren't the minority.

She was having you on.
Hindus are roughly 80.5%, Muslims 13.4%, Christians 2.3%
At least according to the 2001 census figures.

http://censusindia.gov.in/Census_And_You/religion.aspx

Because it's a fetish for some and a squick for others.

There is a big difference between uninterested and squicked. I am highly doubtful that there is anybody with a small breasts squick.

You mention how big they are once and move on.

Unfortunately it doesn't always work like that. It seems some writers have to keep reminding the reader about how big/huge/ginormous they are every time they are mentioned. Personally, I plan to use the small breasts tag to find stories, as I prefer them that way.

Unfortunately it doesn't always work like that. It seems some writers have to keep reminding the reader about how big/huge/ginormous they are every time they are mentioned.

For myself, not every time, but their are potential situations where the size could be relevant. There are things that you can do with / to breasts that become much more difficult if not impossible with small breasts. For example, a tit-fuck isn't going to work with a woman with small-breasts.

Really? You mean I've been doing it wrong all these years? Or she has?

Off hand I'd suggest that they are probably more average than small.

It's true on the other end of the spectrum too. I don't know how many stories I've read where the girl's flat chest or puffy nipples are mentioned every time she gets into a sexual situation.

I'm not about to tag my older stories, because the women's size in my stories isn't considered fetish material.

Certain, but if Lazeez were to put in a "Coming of Age" tag (or, by preference, "Bildungsroman"), or "Utopia/ Dystopia" tags, you might apply those to the Catalyst series. Or you might not.

Either way, though, there are hundreds of stories on the site that wouldn't be updated either because the author didn't notice the tag addition or is no longer active.

CW, I see Coming of Age as being different to High School because I see the CoA as where a person morphs from being a juvenile to and adult, which can happen at an age - I know many forty year old juveniles and some 14 y/o adults. While HS is about what happens at high school and may or may not include a CoA event.

That's what I've always considered Coming of Age stories to be.

I'd think "Coming of Age" as a genre category would only include stories that focus exclusively on growing up in high school. "Coming of Age" as a tag would include any story that dealt with younger kids growing up (though used mostly for those still in school).

I agree with what I think is your intent, that "coming of age" refers to the process of the child turning into an adult, but disagree with the phrasing. At best, using high-school as the focus limits the tag to those stories which take place around the 1950's or later.

During the war years and interregnum, coming of age stories usually had boys, 16 - 19 years of age, going to war. Prior to 1914, coming of age stories had been similar since the rise of children's literature in the mid-19th Century: adventure stories starring adolescents.

The classic example of a coming-of-age adventure novel written for children would be Treasure Island. The age of the protagonist, Jim Hawkins, is never explicitly stated, but is inferred to be 12 or 13 based on standards of the time.

Classically, much of the adventure and coming-of-age genres involve pre-adult characters being thrust into adult problems and situations. This gets complicated as the social idea of children was different to ours, and there was basically no concept of an intermediary phase such as we see teens, but the key point is that for any novel written, or taking place, prior to the early 20th century the age of adulthood would usually be 14 - 16.

Where I do think your distinction is important is with respect to Do-Over novels. While some authors do play with the concept of body shaping mind, most Do-Overs involve mature minds in teen bodies, so any personal growth they achieve should be considered a delayed acceptance of responsibility rather than a coming-of-age.

That's also why I don't write many stories about people my age, as we're hard to shock, as we already know the world sucks! 'D

That doesn't mean that you can't be shocked by discovering that the world sucks even more than you thought. :-)

In both those books, the shock at what their facing is quite obvious, but working with teenagers makes for a more dramatic scene.

Would tend to agree, older characters tend to be more jaded toward everything. That tends to reduce the amount of potential drama that can be conveyed through the character him or herself without resorting to rather extreme situations that manage to overcome their comfort zones.

Teenagers on the other hand have virtually no comfort zone, and don't tend to be anywhere as jaded as their adult counterparts. Such as the ongoing parental lament about everything being a crisis for teens, while the teen is equally exasperated by the adults for "not getting it."

Which does two things, it makes teens and young adults natural focal points for the narrative as their lack of experience and perspective adds to the perceived drama, as well as possibly danger(inexperience, lack of resources the adult would likely seek out before undertaking ____). It also turns the adults who "don't understand" into natural foils for the characters to play against.

Comparable situation with the (adult) loner who travels into a new area, only being jaded is less of an issue here, as you instead get the option to place the supposed jaded individual into situations they've never even considered before, or right in the middle of something they were unaware of until stuck in the middle of it.

That isn't to say that Joe Average with his wife Jane Average and their 2.3 children(the matter of the 0.3rd of a child notwithstanding) can't be an interesting character, but if he's just living his average everyday life. Well, the only people who would be interested in the story are cultural anthropology types, or history majors decades from now. If Joe Average isn't having an average day however, that perspective thing hits again, and the children will generally provide "a more interesting" and perhaps easier point of view to write for than the parent would be.

I recall that episode of Star Trek and its Tribbles. It stuck in my mind for it reminded me of Robert Heinlein's story The Rolling Stones, although they called them Flat Cats in that story.

David Gerald's "The Trouble with Tribbles", Heinlein's "The Rolling Stones", and Ellis Parker Butler's "Pigs is Pigs" are all the same story, with enough differences to not violate copyright.

David Gerald's "The Trouble with Tribbles", Heinlein's "The Rolling Stones", and Ellis Parker Butler's "Pigs is Pigs" are all the same story, with enough differences to not violate copyright.

I would say rather that they are very different stories, with one specific plot element in common.

"Pigs Is Pigs" is a comedic story about bureaucracy and stubbornness; the guinea pigs are an important part of the story since the upset is all about their classification.

"The Rolling Stones" is a boys' adventure with several internal episodes in which the boys try to implement a series of get-rich-quick schemes at their various ports of call, getting into trouble each time. The flat cats are the subject of one such scheme, and their breeding pattern leads to the trouble, but they are not integral to the overall plot.

"The Trouble with Tribbles" is an espionage drama in which the tribbles are basically a joke until the last minute, where they are used to effect a deus ex machina to reveal the spy.

My point being that while both Gerrold and Heinlein acknowledge possible influence by the earlier story in development of the idea, that's not the same thing as saying that the story is the same. By the same token, Disney's "Atlantis" and Jules Verne's "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea" both take inspiration from Plato's "Timaeus" and "Critias" (the origin of Atlantis), but neither shares anything in common with the original stories, which were political allegories.

I don't have any pedophile tendencies that I know of, yet I have a serious fetish for very small breasts. It's not that I don't like big breasts or sagging breasts, they can be very sexy. But show me a woman that's basically flat or has very small breasts, that's hot as hell. No idea why, but if you ask a foot fetishist why he gets off on feet he will probably have no clue either.

I wouldn't classify it as a 'fetish', as it's not a kink

Pretty much everyone misuses the word fetish, especially when referencing erotica and porn. Properly speaking, a fetish is an object or non-genital part of the body which causes sexual response or fixation.

Most medical definitions also specify that to be a fetish or philia the thing in question must either be required for sexual completion for an extended period of time, or must interfere with normal sexual expression.

In other words, it's not about doing something occasionally or having a preference for something, it's about an unwavering focus on the fetish, preventing other types of sexual activity, or in some cases interfering with day to day life.

Obviously that definition doesn't work for a site like SOL, but I thought some people might be interested.