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Feature Request for a total chapter number in the chapter title area

Ernest Bywater

When I go to the start of a new chapter in a story the hot link bar at the top of the page has a number of useful links which includes the previous chapter by number and the next chapter by number what I suggest is it also shows the total number of chapters in the story - this number need not be a hotlink. Thus when I open a new chapter I know how many chapters are left in a story. If I open chapter 12 and it lists 13 chapters I'd be more likely to stay in the hot bath a little longer just to finish reading the story right then than to get out and finish it later, which is what I'd do if it was chapter 12 of 24.

PlaysWithWires

@Ernest Bywater

It's in the Browser page Title, for example
Denham Forrest: In Dreams: Chapter 2 (Page 2) [2/3]

Page 2 of chapter 2 of 3 chapters (although it doesn't say how many pages there are)

That said, I'm on desktop, it may be different with a mobile browser.

Replies:   Ernest Bywater
Ernest Bywater
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@PlaysWithWires


It's in the Browser page Title, for example


It may be on some browsers - not all, and even with the browsers it's visible on it's not visible at all on the tablet I read on while having a hot bath to relax my stuffed back.

edit to add: this is what is in Firefox and Chromium on my PC:

https://storiesonline.net/s/18426:207621/chapter-23-sams-year

and what's visible on the tablet window ends early at

https://storiesonline.net/s/18426:20

unless I exit the page read mode to use the URL change mode - notice neither tells me how many chapters in the whole story.

.............

Looked at the story you mentioned at it has 3 chapters with the url reading on the PC:

https://storiesonline.net/s/70328:128944/chapter-2-in-dreams

however, chapter 2 has three pages to it and page 2 of chapter 2 reads:

https://storiesonline.net/s/70328:128944/chapter-2-in-dreams?page=1

and both cut off halfway in the tablet browser.

Replies:   PlaysWithWires
REP

@Ernest Bywater

Your feature might be nice to have.

However, that assumes the story is finished or the author knows how many chapters there are/will be in the story.

How are you going to account for sections like Introductions, Forewords, Epilogues, etc. If you count them as chapters, then a story with an Introduction, 24 text chapters (Chapters 1-24), and an Epilogue would have 26 chapters. That could be confusing.(

Ernest Bywater

@REP

However, that assumes the story is finished or the author knows how many chapters there are/will be in the story.


I'm sure the count can be set to show the total number of currently posted chapters, whatever they're called. The stories still being posted isn't an issue for me, because I don't start to read them until the final chapter is posted - but the system would always have a current count, anyway.

PlaysWithWires
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@Ernest Bywater

I can only speak for Firefox desktop, but I'm referring to the Title, not the url. This in the top bar of the browser, along with the min/max/close buttons.

for example, this page is "Featue Request for a total chapter number in the chapter title area by Ernest Bywater | Storiesonline Forum - Mozilla Firefox".

That said, I'm not arguing against it - if it doesn't display on some browsers/devices, I agree it would be useful.

ETA: Just switched to full screen mode (which I never use) instead of maximise, and everything except the page content disappeared.
Repeating the Title content into the page body should be easy, the problem would be fitting it into the template neatly.

Ernest Bywater

@PlaysWithWires

I use Firefox on both the PC and the Tablet, and what is readable in the Metadata Title content as the title bar when Firefox for PC is set large enough isn't readable on a smaller display setting and it is not shown at all on the 3 tablets we have in this household as the tablet screen is too small.

The same number as you mention in the title bar could be inserted in the top of page banner for the chapter as well, and it will show as it wraps around to display all in the banner - just takes a few extra lines than on the PC.

Replies:   PlaysWithWires
PlaysWithWires

@Ernest Bywater

Looking at that same page again, the first content is the h2 "Chapter 2".
Perhaps the least disruptive option would be to add "(of 3)" to it - "chapter 2 (of 3)".
It all depends on Lazeez' Code Fu of course.

Replies:   madnige
madnige

@PlaysWithWires

"chapter 2 (of 3)"


...and append a '+' or similar to the no. of chapters for unfinished, maybe 'u' for unfinished and 'i' for incomplete&inactive:

"chapter 2 (of 3)" for completed story
"chapter 2 (of 3+)" for currently posting story
"chapter 2 (of 3i)" for incomplete, inactive story

Replies:   Keet
Keet

@madnige

Not after the chapter number/name. There are chapters that are named 'Chapter xx: Title for the chapter' and those would look awkward adding what you suggested. And there are a few stories that don't have chapter numbers but just a title without a number, 'Day xx', 'Part xx'. The added numbers would really ruin the chapter designation.
There are 1 or 2 lines with 'posted: ...' and 'Updated: ...'. Maybe a third line or left aligned on the 'Posted:' line. And while doing that move those lines just above the chapter number instead of below ;)

sharkjcw

If you are reading a complete story the index will tell how many chapters are in a story.

Replies:   Ernest Bywater
samuelmichaels

@PlaysWithWires

That said, I'm not arguing against it - if it doesn't display on some browsers/devices, I agree it would be useful.

ETA: Just switched to full screen mode (which I never use) instead of maximise, and everything except the page content disappeared.
Repeating the Title content into the page body should be easy, the problem would be fitting it into the template neatly.


I use FF on the desktop, and that information is displayed as the tab (I use multiple tabs) title. If the tab is too short, hovering over the tab gives me exactly that information (aka tool-tip), for instance "Human Phoenix by Refusenik: Chapter 21 (Page 3) [22/22]" -- this is from the Title metadata element.

But, it's probably an issue on phones and tablet displays.

Replies:   Ernest Bywater
Ernest Bywater

@sharkjcw

If you are reading a complete story the index will tell how many chapters are in a story.


True, but it means leaving the story and then coming back to it on a tablet, since it's working off the wi-fi it takes a little longer than on the cable and requires a minimum of 2 taps and if in the middle of a chapter it also requires a number of finger slides to get to where you can get to the hotlink.

Ernest Bywater

@samuelmichaels

an issue on phones and tablet displays.


which is where I see it as a problem.

Keet

There are several points that make the request Ernest made very credible:
1 - Visible on any device (big point!)
2 - Visible independent of the browser
3 - Preserved in a downloaded story (that specific piece of the title meta data is lost in a downloaded story)

The problem is that the top line with links is getting very cluttered and adding to it will increase that.
Personally I would revise the whole top line with shorter words. For example default to 'Prev' and 'Next' instead of the complete previous and next chapter names, 'Index' instead of 'The full title Index', 'Lib' or 'Library' instead of 'My Library', and an icon for bookmarking. Remove the direct link to the author page. The author page is available from the story index page so no real need for it on every story page.
Just a suggestion, but maybe a few authors/readers can put their heads together and format a clear concept that can be presented to Lazeez as a feature request. I don't think there's much he can do with the current request.

Crumbly Writer
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@REP

How are you going to account for sections like Introductions, Forewords, Epilogues, etc. If you count them as chapters, then a story with an Introduction, 24 text chapters (Chapters 1-24), and an Epilogue would have 26 chapters. That could be confusing.

Although I frequently use those, I typically include most (Forwards, Prologues and others) and chapter "0" (i.e. I don't 'count' it, but still reference it). For an Epilogue, I simply make it the last chapter.

If we added this as a SOL feature, though, Lazeez would pretty much have to include the total chapter count, including all the front and back matter, regardless of content.

Replies:   REP
Crumbly Writer

If this is still being considered as a new feature, there are enough 'only posts completed stories' authors to warrant an added line at the top of the story index (rather than the top of the browser display), based entirely on what the author self-reports as the total chapter count.

Once more, this is another way for certain authors to advertise that the story is complete, and to let readers know, upfront, just how long (in chapters) they can expect it to be.

However, if the discussion is/was entirely about browser displays, that's not in Lazeez's control anyway.

As for Keet's comment (about how to format the information), I'd suggest we include it under the Index's story title (i.e. "Singularity (21)").

That way, there's little extraneous information displayed, it wouldn't be obvious if the information wasn't specified, but it would be fairly obvious to anyone who cared about it.

Replies:   Keet
Keet

@Crumbly Writer

As for Keet's comment (about how to format the information), I'd suggest we include it under the Index's story title (i.e. "Singularity (21)").

If I understood Ernest' request correctly he would like to see this not on the index page but on every chapter page. On the index page would add little because you can see the number of chapters in the index table.

Replies:   REP
richardshagrin

Please consider the authors that show chapter 1A, 1B, 1C and so forth. I remember a story with 14 chapter numbers each with at least three letter suffixes. It was a total of well over 40 "chapters".

Replies:   REP
REP

@Crumbly Writer

Lazeez would pretty much have to include the total chapter count


Ernie said in the OP:

... what I suggest is it also shows the total number of chapters in the story - this number need not be a hotlink. Thus when I open a new chapter I know how many chapters are left in a story. If I open chapter 12 and it lists 13 chapters I'd be more likely to stay in the hot bath a little longer just to finish reading the story right then than to get out and finish it later ...


What Ernie is proposing is a third number to reflect the total number of chapters in the story. So, perhaps we might see a display of 12/13/25. If the author doesn't provide a total chapter count, then we might see something like 12/13/**.

So let us assume Ernie is in the hot tub and he has just finished reading Chapter 12 of 13 posted chapters. How is knowing that the story has a total of 25 total chapters going to help him decide whether he should stay in the hot tub and read the last posted chapter. If the author didn't provide a total chapter count, then seeing ** will not be useful. I also don't see a delay in Ernie, or someone else, reading the last chapter being that important.

While some of us might like to know the total chapter count, I, personally, don't see how that information would be useful other than satisfying someone's ideal curiosity. Although, in one instance, seeing a display of 12/13/13 might be useful, but not that critical.

REP

@Keet

because you can see the number of chapters in the index table.


You only see a listing of the posted chapters in the index, not the total number of chapters. But as I said, I don't see knowing the total number of chapter that important.

Replies:   Keet  Crumbly Writer
REP

@richardshagrin

I'm not familiar with the story you referenced. It sounds as if each chapter's three variants would result in the reader only reading the A or B or C variants.

If that is the case, then it seems to me that it might be really confusing knowing that you just finished reading Chapter 10B and seeing a display that indicates you just finished reading Chapter 29 of 33 posted chapters and there are a total of 42 chapters.

Replies:   Crumbly Writer
Keet
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@REP

You only see a listing of the posted chapters in the index, not the total number of chapters. But as I said, I don't see knowing the total number of chapter that important.

I agree. The number would only make sense if the story is complete or if you are catching up with an ongoing story. It could produce some really weird number too if you take in to account prologues, epilogues, a b c chapters, etc. You could find yourself reading chapter 23 with the numbers 29/54 or something alike. The numbers represent the file number in the string of total files.

ETA: thinking about that it might be more useful to have a number of remaining files/chapters available.

Replies:   REP  Crumbly Writer
REP
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@Keet


it might be more useful to have a number of remaining files/chapters available.


That would only be available if the author provides the necessary information.

I also don't understand how knowing the number of chapters remaining to be posted would be useful to a reader.

ETA: Since I only start posting when my story is complete, I always know how many chapters there are in my story. Authors who post as they go and aren't writing to a detailed outline don't know how many chapters there will be in their story.

Replies:   Keet
Keet

@REP

That would only be available if the author provides the necessary information.

No, I meant the number of remaining chapters available. So if you are reading chapter 13 of the 14 available in an ongoing story the remaining number is 1. If you are reading chapter 13 of a completed story with 17 chapters you have 4 more to go. This removes the necessity to know the future total of chapters (files) which is a number seldom known and even if reported by the author still in danger of changing.

I also don't understand how knowing the number of chapters remaining to be posted would be useful to a reader.

That comes closest to what I understood from the request Ernest placed. to quote what Ernest said:

If I open chapter 12 and it lists 13 chapters I'd be more likely to stay in the hot bath a little longer just to finish reading the story right then than to get out and finish it later, which is what I'd do if it was chapter 12 of 24.

Replies:   REP
REP
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@Keet


just to finish reading the story


Yes Ernie made the statement you referenced. However, I would interpret the above part of his statement to mean there are a total of 13 chapters in the story. But if he knew there were 24 chapters left in the story, he would get out without reading the remaining available chapter.

This removes the necessity to know the future total of chapters (files) which is a number seldom known and even if reported by the author still in danger of changing.


Your statement is ambiguous. Ernie is asking to be informed of the total number or chapters in a story and you said that is seldom known. So what is the 'This' that would remove the necessity of knowing the total number of chapters?

Replies:   Keet
Keet

@REP

Your statement is ambiguous. Ernie is asking to be informed of the total number or chapters in a story and you said that is seldom known. So what is the 'This' that would remove the necessity of knowing the total number of chapters?

Mmm ok, I might have been a little unclear. I assume one datapoint: every story has a total number of chapters. For a completed story that is the total, unchangeable number of chapters. For an ongoing story that is the number of chapters submitted so far, or in other words, the total number of chapters available to the reader. You don't know the end total number of chapters for an ongoing story so there's no way to display that number. I know there are a few authors who reported the end total before all chapters are posted but that is a minority over the total of all ongoing stories.
To clarify further: if Ernest is sitting in his bath tub he wants to know how may chapters are left to read. In his example 12/13 would mean he has 1 chapter left available so he can sit back and read that one chapter. If the total of say 24 chapters that the story will have when finished was reported he would step out of the bath to read the rest at a later time just to find out that there no more then 13 chapters available yet. If he had known that he would have stayed in his bath to read that 13th chapter.
It's about the usefulness of a number. Chapters left available for reading is useful. Knowing how many chapters the story will have when complete might also be useful but not for the example Ernest presented.

Replies:   REP
REP

@Keet

but not for the example Ernest presented.


What you seem to be missing is that Ernie is asking Lazeez to add a new field for information that will identify the total number of chapters in the story. The example he provided was intended to support the need for the additional field.

The problem with the new total chapters field is many of us (i.e., the post as you go group) may not know how many chapters there will be in their stories. They probably don't know and don't want to guess, and they probably don't want to put out a bogus number. Bogus numbers might tend to upset their readers.

Replies:   Keet  Crumbly Writer
Keet

@REP

What you seem to be missing is that Ernie is asking Lazeez to add a new field for information that will identify the total number of chapters in the story. The example he provided was intended to support the need for the additional field.

Exactly. The "total number of chapters" is however open to interpretation. Because of his example I interpreted that as "total number of chapters available for reading" so he can determine how many chapter are left to read. A partial quote:

... what I suggest is it also shows the total number of chapters in the story - this number need not be a hotlink. Thus when I open a new chapter I know how many chapters are left in a story.

His bath tub example made it clear it's about chapters available for reading, not how many chapters a story will have when completed.
From your response I understand you interpret the requested number as the "total number of chapters when the story is complete". Alas, that number is not available for ongoing stories but the number of chapters already posted is available.
I suggested to use that last number IF this is implemented. It might be a handy number for stories where the author posts 2-3 chapters instead of just 1, especially if you're sitting in the tub ;)

Replies:   REP  Crumbly Writer
REP
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@Keet

Go back and reread Ernie's post carefully. In particular focus on the sentence where he says:

what I suggest is it also shows the total number of chapters in the story


In that sentence, Ernie states that we already have fields for the 'number of chapters posted' and 'the last chapter read'.

In Ernie' hot tub example, Ernie uses 3 numbers: 12, 13, and 24. 12 is the number of chapter read, 13 is the number posted, and 24 is the total number of chapters in the story. If he had been referring to the number of chapters available to be read, he would used 1 instead of 24.

Since there are already fields for number of chapters read and the number posted (i.e., available to read), I sincerely doubt that Ernie is so ignorant or lazy that he can't calculate the number of chapters available to be read (i.e., 13-12=1).

Ernest Bywater

Let me clarify everything for you all. I use a PC at my desk and a tablet when in the bath. I use the tablet only for reading stories which are mostly from SoL, FS, and SciFi with a few I've got downloaded a PDF to the tablet, that's all. With the downloaded stories I have a bar at the bottom that shows how much of the story is read, so we can ignore them. With the SoL/FS/SciFi stories I read them in Firefox on both devices. In general they appear the same on both devices, however there is a big difference between them on what is visibly displayed on them as one is 10 cm (4 inches) across and the other is over 60 cm (24 inches) across.

The material displayed is in 5 sections going down the page: the meta title, the URL, the page header banner, the story chapter text, the page footing. With the last three being fully displayed the same on both devices while the first two are heavily truncated due to the limited space of the smaller screen. The truncated URL is not an issue and not relevant to this request, while the Meta Title is.

The Meta Title is an instruction on the page code for what the browser should display there and is set by the page creator, thus Lazeez has control over what it says. The same is true of the Page Header Banner. The issue is the data visible on both devices is not the same due to the truncation of the Meta Title limiting what I can see.

Now, the data in the Page Header Banner is a bunch of hotlinks of - Home / My Library / Author's Page (as their name) / Story Index Page (as the story name) / Bookmark Story / Previous Chapter (as the chapter number) / Next Chapter (as the chapter number) / Mail / Bottom (meaning the bottom of the page). All this is visible on both devices.

The data in the Meta Title is - Author's Page (as their name) / Story Name / Chapter Number / Chapter Count with Chapter Total Count / Browser name.

In the tablet the meta data only has room to show the Author Name.

Also, the chapter number and the chapter count do not always match. Take, for example, my story Boone the Early Years as it has a Table of Contents and a Forward and it has 8 story chapters. However, when you see the Meta Title on the PC for chapter 4 it reads:

Ernest Bywater: Boone - The Early Years: Chapter 4 (6/10) - Mozilla Firefox

This is because the ToC and Forward are kept on the SoL server as separate chapters and chapter 4 is the 4th story chapter while it's the 6th chapter in that story on the server.

As this information is provided on every story page I suspect it's done by the server as a script and inserted in the meta data by the SoL server at some point. What I would like to see is the Header Banner to include after the page movement links the same chapter count information being displayed in the Meta Title area. This could be handled y a script, but ti would require Lazeez to take the time to do that, probably by amending the script for the Meta Title insertion.

Replies:   Keet  Crumbly Writer
Keet

@Ernest Bywater

Let me clarify everything for you all.

Thank you. As I suspected the number you want is what is mentioned in the Meta Title and the total number there is the total number of chapters currently available.

@REP
Here's an interesting example of what the Meta Title displays for Roustwriter's Arlene and Jeff when reading chapter 29 of book 2:

Roustwriter: Arlene and Jeff: Chapter 29 [55/649]

What I tried to make clear is that we don't know how many chapters the completed story will be so that number can't be displayed. The number we do know is the total currently posted: 649 "chapters", although chapters is really "posts" or "files that are uploaded" which are listed in the index.
Next week the number will be 650. The number 55 is not a chapter number, it just means file 55 out of a total of 649.
Now both 55 and 649 don't say very much unless you do the math and subtract 55 from 649 to get the remaining number of available files. That's why I suggested to display a single number: the remaining number of files. In short: just a single number to display because Lazeez does the math.
The only thing missing in the Meta Title is that the example chapter 29 is from book 2. That's a section 'problem' which I already addressed in another thread.

Replies:   REP
REP
Updated:

@Keet

I only know what was written in the OP. What was said there, did not match your position or what Ernie is now saying.

I use my desktop to access SOL. I don't have or use a smartphone, notebook, ipad, or other portable device, so I am not familiar with the displays you and Ernie mention.

Replies:   Keet
Keet

@REP

I use my desktop to access SOL. I don't have or use a smartphone, notebook, ipad, or other portable device, so I am not familiar with the displays you and Ernie mention.

Aha, the misunderstanding is getting clear.
The display referred to as "Meta Title" is only visible on a desktop. Hover your mouse over the tab of the page in your browser and a tooltip will appear.
Ernest used the bath tub example because he uses a tablet when sitting in the bath and the tooltip is only available on a desktop, not on a tablet or smartphone. He simply wants the number(s) to be available on devices that don't display the tooltip. Because you don't have a mouse on a tablet the numbers must be displayed somewhere else.

Some more information about the title tag:

A tooltip is usually a little yellow box with black text that pops up when hovering over an item on a web page. In this case the tooltip text comes from the html source of the web page, namely the "title" tag which is located in the meta-data section of the html source. That's why it is referred to as "meta title".

If you want to view the source of a web page: prefix the url in the address bar with "view-source:" and you will see the html code of the page. One of the first 5 lines or so will have the 'title' tag. This is on Firefox, I don't use any other browsers but I assume a right click will display a pop-up menu that has an option "View Page Source" on almost every browser.

The title tooltip with the numbers is only available when reading on line from the SOL page. The numbers are lost when you download the story (zip) and then open the story in your browser.

Crumbly Writer

@REP

You only see a listing of the posted chapters in the index, not the total number of chapters. But as I said, I don't see knowing the total number of chapter that important.

Again, it's useful for those of us who only post completed stories (as a way of telling readers what to expect), but won't help the 'post as they write' authors. It would also serve as a shorthand 'this book IS complete' notice, using fewer characters. 'D

Crumbly Writer

@REP

If that is the case, then it seems to me that it might be really confusing knowing that you just finished reading Chapter 10B and seeing a display that indicates you just finished reading Chapter 29 of 33 posted chapters and there are a total of 42 chapters.

Not knowing the story in question, that's not necessarily so. Many authors write by chapter, but then 'repackage' the chapters to fit what they expect SOL readers prefer. In that case, if chapter 10 was 30,000 words, then 10A would be around 10,000, 10B another 10,000 and 10C whatever was left over.

Crumbly Writer

@Keet

Again, I prefer an optional field for 'total chapters in story', for anyone who's posting a completed story over a short time frame. That way, readers will KNOW the story is completed, and won't have to wait until the story is labeled "Complete" to begin reading.

As for 'extra' chapters (prologue, forward, etc.), those wouldn't be counted (i.e. they're not numbered. It's the same with most printed books, authors/publishers don't number forwards, copyright notices and epilogues. And adding those chapters to the total count would only make the entire thing impossible to implement for Lazeez. :(

Replies:   Keet
Crumbly Writer

@REP

The problem with the new total chapters field is many of us (i.e., the post as you go group) may not know how many chapters there will be in their stories. They probably don't know and don't want to guess, and they probably don't want to put out a bogus number. Bogus numbers might tend to upset their readers.

That problem exists for all authors, as authors sometimes add extra chapters at a later date. However, that's easily solved with an editable field (or simply asking the posting moderator to update the correct chapter count). However, the entire system goes to hell if you include front and back matter (forwards, prologues, epigraphs and character lists). Those shouldn't be counted, as they're not complete chapters (and wouldn't be counted in a printed books Table of Contents.

Replies:   Keet
Crumbly Writer

@Keet

The "total number of chapters" is however open to interpretation. Because of his example I interpreted that as "total number of chapters available for reading" so he can determine how many chapter are left to read.

Ernest has a well-earned reputation for never reading any story until it's marked as "Complete", thus your 'all present chapters' wouldn't apply to his 'do I start/finish this or not?' predicament.

Your 'all current chapters' would help the 'write as you go' authors, but adds an almost-impossible complication to implementing the feature.

Replies:   Keet
Crumbly Writer

@Ernest Bywater

In general they appear the same on both devices, however there is a big difference between them on what is visibly displayed on them as one is 10 cm (4 inches) across and the other is over 60 cm (24 inches) across.

Wait, you take your desktop, complete with a 24" monitor, into the bathtub with you? Talk about a 'shocking' story ending! 'D

Keet

@Crumbly Writer

Again, I prefer an optional field for 'total chapters in story', for anyone who's posting a completed story over a short time frame. That way, readers will KNOW the story is completed, and won't have to wait until the story is labeled "Complete" to begin reading.

I agree that knowing the end-total for an ongoing story is a much desired number but apart from incidental cases where an author uploaded a completed story with a posting schedule that number just isn't available.

As for 'extra' chapters (prologue, forward, etc.), those wouldn't be counted (i.e. they're not numbered. It's the same with most printed books, authors/publishers don't number forwards, copyright notices and epilogues.
And adding those chapters to the total count would only make the entire thing impossible to implement for Lazeez. :(

It's not only not impossible it's available now. That is if you're on a desktop and hover your mouse over the window tab in the browser. It displays exactly the numbers that includes all files.

Keet

@Crumbly Writer

However, that's easily solved with an editable field (or simply asking the posting moderator to update the correct chapter count)

Nope, never gonna happen. It should be a calculated number not a static field that holds the number. It's a calculated number now so why change that?

Keet

@Crumbly Writer

Your 'all current chapters' would help the 'write as you go' authors, but adds an almost-impossible complication to implementing the feature.

Nope , the feature is available now. The problem is that it's only available on a desktop.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Ernest Bywater

Implemented today.

Replies:   sharkjcw  Ernest Bywater
sharkjcw

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

What just happened? Got kicked off site and now home page and forum page are in a different style and font.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@sharkjcw

Nothing changed on the home page or the forum.

Send me a screen shot of what you're seeing on your computer/device to my email address.

Ernest Bywater

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Implemented today.


Thank you, it does make it better for reading on the tablet to know how big the story is.

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