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Female Led Relationship Story - not a cuckolding story

Eddie Davidson 🚫

Would you consider writing a femdom story like this:

-No special laws requiring female leadership>
-Man is stressed and well-meaning but head of household
-Wife is shy/reserved but tired of being the only one doing laundry.
-Man and Wife are in love but their relationship is strained in the male-led version.
-They have two kids but they are not directly involved in his discipline - its done under their noses/so that there is a little tension of keeping it secret in their own house while still doing it 24/7

1. Wife confronts him, her friend "Angie" is there and the two of them have decided on a new discipline plan for him.
Man scoffs but ultimately accepts it when they make it clear that there is no way around this.
No blackmail, no threats -other than this is how it is going to be and you will do it because it is for the best.

2. Wife does not want an excuse to fuck other men. She just wants him "Better" - but she wants to humiliate him and keep him locked in a chastity cage. She has no particular interest in feminizing except to teach him what she has to go through to go out "And all you do is put on a fresh (mostly clean) shirt, and toss a comb through your hair". She establishes rules.

3. They have kids but the kids are not directly involved in the discipline. Its done under their noses. Man treats them with respect, doesn't make them do all the chores. Let's say a teenage boy and a younger daughter. The boy does all the lawn work,and wash the car - is surprised when Dad starts volunteering. Dad also opens the doors for everyone, unloads groceries - everything.

4. Dad eventually gets loaned out (not for sex) but to clean homes of her friends.

Thoughts?

I hate most Femdom stories. They are usually about over-sexed females. They train the men the way we would train females

"Oh no! I have to fuck and pleasure all your friends? Gosh! that's terrible, honey. Are you sure?"

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Tw0Cr0ws 🚫

What you are asking for is a fantasy story about aliens which are not related to or in any way like humans. This will be very hard to write, in fiction most aliens are like a human in a rubber suit.
As soon as a human male steps down from the leadership in a relationship the female loses respect for him and decides that she deserves a male that is better than him, so he will either be dumped or cuckolded.

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Grey Wolf 🚫

@Tw0Cr0ws

While I'm not in any way the right one to write this, I disagree strongly with this put-down of the idea. Amongst heterosexual couples I know ones that are male-led, female-led, and so equal as to make no difference. In no case has the male been 'dumped or cuckolded'.

Indeed, in one of those relationships, the male was the one to almost dump the female (at the instigation of his mother - another strong female), then returned. She's never once shown any interest in leaving nor cuckolding him.

I'm honestly not sure why a woman would leave a man who caters to her whims, and the notion that she would cuckold him seems to indicate the idea that sex is a bigger goal than harmony, security, control, etc. She literally 'has it all' - control, harmony, security, and presumably love, and she's going to throw that away because she 'deserves [...] better'?

It seems to be a 'all women are not-so-secretly submissive' viewpoint that I have a great deal of trouble reconciling with reality.

Personally, female-dominant relationships don't do much for me and I'd have a lot of trouble getting into the headspace of either major character.

Eddie Davidson 🚫

I disagree.

Literally every real life Flr relationship I know the woman loves her husband. She is just the boss.

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Vincent Berg 🚫

@Eddie Davidson

Literally every real life Flr relationship I know the woman loves her husband. She is just the boss.

I know you're teasing, but I prefer stories where the participants in a relationship each bring something to it, rather than one being an active protagonist, and the other is merely a tertiary character. :( That said, it's easier writing strong leads than it is equally strong secondary characters.

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Eddie Davidson 🚫
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@Vincent Berg

I never said there was no love in the story. I am not sure where either of you could get that from my request/idea.

I literally said no coercion, no blackmail, no special laws.

The woman just lays down the law with the help of her friend and starts a flr. One where she doesn't want an excuse to fuck other men while he watches. She wants a FLR - femdom relationsip. I would like to see the before before it began and then the laying down the law/rules portion and the adjustments.

Grey Wolf 🚫

@Vincent Berg

I can't understand this line of reasoning either. Why is the husband a 'tertiary character'? In a heterosexual male-dominant story, would the submissive female necessarily be 'tertiary'? I wouldn't think so; in fact, I'd pretty much say that that's lousy writing. Submissive does not mean doormat nor one-dimensional.

Eddie Davidson 🚫

@Eddie Davidson

I have *ALWAYS* wanted to do a proper female led marriage story. Most Femdom stories are a cuckold story about a sex-addict wife who really uses the relationship as an excuse to be mean to her husband, get him to clean and fuck anybody but him.

However, in real life while cuckolding is often a part of it- I've found often it is not. Usually, the woman just wants her man to submit to her will and make the best of him. She wants him to clean and hand over control but she is not a ruthless bitch raving all the time. They love one another. This is often reflected in maledom relationships but seldom in female. I'd love to explore that idea with you - especially perhaps about a son growing up in such a household and trying to explain to a friend his parents are 'normal' because this is normal to him.

I don't think I am the right one to write this though. I'd love to help and advise - but would anyone take up this gauntlet?

Crumbly Writer 🚫

@Eddie Davidson

Personally, I'd consider any of those premises, but I'd likely reject any obviously femdom story as being overly stereotypical and limiting. There's no reason forcing these ideas into a 'women masters' universe, when they ideas would be useful in virtually any story with a strong female lead.

Also, the whole idea of a wife 'punishing' her husband pretty much undermines the entire idea of her 'independent' spirit, if she's only able to argue her point by subjecting her partner to abuse. That makes any story a complete non-starter for the majority of readers (both male or otherwise).

So, don't argue when others argue about the weakness of your own argument. Instead, just broaden your own universe to find a better home for your ideas. Your initial five premise points are perfectly fine for any story, though the next 4 plot points undermine each of your story objectives. As they say, pick and lane and stick to it, rather than weaving all over the road!

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Dominions Son 🚫

@Crumbly Writer

Also, the whole idea of a wife 'punishing' her husband pretty much undermines the entire idea of her 'independent' spirit, if she's only able to argue her point by subjecting her partner to abuse.

It wouldn't necessarily be abuse in the context of a consensual DS relationship with a dominant female and a submissive male.

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Grey Wolf 🚫

@Dominions Son

It's pretty clear that some people don't get the point of 'consensual D/s relationship'.

There are many varieties of them, but the core is a voluntary exchange of power from one partner to the other (free of illegal coercion, etc). 'Punishment', if included in that transfer, is then within bounds. The submissive partner may well want to be punished (which can become a form of codependency, of course, if they're doing that as a substitute for self-control).

Nearly any consensual D/s relationship should have well-defined negotiated limits on how much power is transferred and what is 'in bounds'. Within those limits (as long as they don't violate a law, anyway) it's simply not 'abuse'; defining it as abuse is saying that these two adults cannot be permitted to make such decisions. One could not agree that it was OK for the other partner to kill them if they misbehaved sufficiently, for instance.

The point is, those 'next 4 plot points' are all valid in a consensual D/S relationship. The husband agrees to all of them. He's not being abused; he's not doing anything against his will. At any point, all he has to do is say 'I no longer consent to this' and it's over.

Now, there may well be repercussions if he breaks it off. The wife may leave. That's not different from a husband saying 'I no longer consent to monogamy' or 'I no longer consent to sleeping in the same bed' or 'I no longer consent to being nice to you' or whatever. If those are relationship conditions then that's fair game.

But, remember, part of the setup is that the husband is stressed and well-meaning. The presumption is that, in giving up authority (which he's not really using very well), he gains happiness. His life has structure and order that he wants. He's free from making decisions he doesn't want to make and isn't good at making. Everything is more harmonious.

It obviously doesn't need to be your cup of tea - as I said, it's not mine; I'd do a lousy job of writing it - but it's also not abuse, just a different way of living.

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