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redlion75 ๐Ÿšซ

I have been reading a few stories and the male m.c. tells his new love not to worry about babies cause he got clipped after former wife was told not to get pregnant again.why she was not the 1 to get fixed since she was the one told not to get knocked up i can not understand.

Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@redlion75

There might be legitimate medical reasons for that. Human or animal, "fixing" a female is far more invasive (and therefore riskier) of a surgery than "fixing" a male.

Or the ex could have just badgered him into it using the threat of laconookie.

Or the MC could have lied to the new love.

John Demille ๐Ÿšซ

@redlion75

The former wife was being selfish and he was suckered into ending any possibility of a (additional) progeny for him.

REP ๐Ÿšซ

@redlion75

There is a point in a marriage where both partners believe their spouse is faithful and that they will be together for the rest of their lives. If that actually happens, then the man getting clipped make sense for it is simple operation compared to a woman getting fixed which is a major invasive operation.

Unfortunately, marriages fail for many reason. In the stories you are thinking of, things changed and they divorced. Now the man is clipped, if what he tells his new love is true. His ex-wife is left with the decision of birth control that can fail, getting fixed, or abortions if she gets pregnant.

Uther_Pendragon ๐Ÿšซ

@REP

There is a point in a marriage where both partners believe their spouse is faithful and that they will be together for the rest of their lives. If that actually happens, then the man getting clipped make sense for it is simple operation compared to a woman getting fixed which is a major invasive operation.

Unfortunately, marriages fail for many reason. In the stories you are thinking of, things changed and they divorced. Now the man is clipped, if what he tells his new love is true. His ex-wife is left with the decision of birth control that can fail, getting fixed, or abortions if she gets pregnant.

Or, of course, it is just a simple story device.

In current -- as opposed to historical -- tales, birth control is an issue whenever sex iis.

Uther_Pendragon ๐Ÿšซ

@REP

There is a point in a marriage where both partners believe their spouse is faithful and that they will be together for the rest of their lives. If that actually happens, then the man getting clipped make sense for it is simple operation compared to a woman getting fixed which is a major invasive operation.

Unfortunately, marriages fail for many reason. In the stories you are thinking of, things changed and they divorced. Now the man is clipped, if what he tells his new love is true. His ex-wife is left with the decision of birth control that can fail, getting fixed, or abortions if she gets pregnant.

Or, of course, it is just a simple story device.

In current -- as opposed to historical -- tales, birth control is an issue whenever sex iis.

LonelyDad ๐Ÿšซ

Several of Oyter50's stories have that as part of the plot.

redlion75 ๐Ÿšซ

I am a former surgical technician and doing a hysterectomy during delivery is easy to do and not just a marriage ending in divorce but a dying wife such as an accident that takes any child too.afterall she is the one with the health issue so having her being medically safe from "accidentally" get pregnant sounds more reasonable.1 of the couples in the smart girl universe had a self healing vasectomy so possible or not she could have gotten pregnant even after he was clipped.

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Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ
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@redlion75

I am a former surgical technician and doing a hysterectomy during delivery is easy to do

Sure, if it's done as part of a delivery by c-section. During a normal, non-surgical birth, not so much.

LonelyDad ๐Ÿšซ

I'm reminded of the gynecologist who changed professions to be an auto mechanic.

red61544 ๐Ÿšซ

A vasectomy requires a visit to the doctor's office and a few days of localized pain for the male. A tubal ligation or a hysterectomy requires hospitalization and abdominal surgery for a woman. The first is a minor surgical procedure for the male. The choices for a woman are both considered major surgery and recovery from any kind of abdominal surgery is extremely painful since the abdominal muscles have to be cut. I'd have to question the degree of commitment to the marriage of any man who would ask his wife to have major surgery so that he can avoid having an office procedure that would accomplish the same thing. Saying "it's her problem, let her handle it" should be grounds for a divorce.

Replies:   Remus2
Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

@red61544

I'd have to question the degree of commitment to the marriage of any man who would ask his wife to have major surgery so that he can avoid having an office procedure that would accomplish the same thing.

I would question a women's commitment if she insisted on a man being cut even if it's considered minor.
Either person insisting on any form of elective surgery (birth contol, cosmetic, or whatever) would raise the same question. There is the pill for women and prophylactics for men, both of which are considered safe without surgery of any kind. If the appearance makes a difference in love or not, it was never love to begin with.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Remus2

There is the pill for women and prophylactics for men, both of which are considered safe without surgery of any kind.

Neither of which is 100% effective.
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If a woman has been told that another pregnancy would be life threatening, is that sufficient?

On the other hand, there are documented cases of both vasectomies and tubal ligations failing as a forms of birth control. Only a full hysterectomy would be a complete guarantee.

Radagast ๐Ÿšซ

@redlion75

I knew a man whose wife said no more sex unless he got fixed. So he did. She served him with divorce papers the next day. She simply wanted to prevent him having more kids after he dumped her.

Replies:   Dominions Son  madnige
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Radagast

She served him with divorce papers the next day. She simply wanted to prevent him having more kids after he dumped her.

I'm not sure what, but something is very wrong with these two sentences. She served him with divorce papers, but HE dumped her?

madnige ๐Ÿšซ

@Radagast

Wasn't that the setup story for Artie's The Golden Mule?

Replies:   Keet
Keet ๐Ÿšซ

@madnige

Wasn't that the setup story for Artie's The Golden Mule?

Yep, fits the bill but he didn't have kids.

Radagast ๐Ÿšซ
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She dumped him. I'll leave my screw up for posterity.

I don't feel sorry for him.

His business went bust because he was using company funds to maintain his lifestyle. His partner went to jail for embezzlement. His son started taking drugs and his underage daughter became a pass around whore for an outlaw motorcycle gang. He remarried, cheated on his wife and caught genital warts, which he tried to blame on his wife even though she was clean.

Then he was upset when I didn't want to be his drinking buddy or discuss my personal life with him...

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Radagast

Then he was upset when I didn't want to be his drinking buddy or discuss my personal life with him...

The nerve of some people. :)

Radagast ๐Ÿšซ
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I haven't read that story. If so then Art imitates life. The events I mentioned were 30 years ago.

Replies:   joyR  madnige
joyR ๐Ÿšซ

@Radagast

If so then Art imitates life.

Shouldn't that be, "Artie imitates life" ??

madnige ๐Ÿšซ

@Radagast

The events I mentioned were 30 years ago.

TGM was

Posted to a.s.s.m December 21, 1999

so it's possible he was inspired by the events, and joyR is correct

Honey_Moon ๐Ÿšซ

@redlion75

I have been reading a few stories and the male m.c. tells his new love not to worry about babies cause he got clipped after former wife was told not to get pregnant again.why she was not the 1 to get fixed since she was the one told not to get knocked up i can not understand.

I have some first hand thoughts on this. My mom came very close to dying when she had me (Should have her own Lifetime movie! Doctors suggested that she abort. She knew the risks and said "BRING IT!" She's my hero!) I actually came home from the hospital before she did. Anyway, doctors told her next time would be lethal. My mom and dad talked about it, and made a decision. In case anything happened to him, he wanted my mom to be safe and happy. She had a tubal ligation.
Yup, they're still happily married.

Tw0Cr0ws ๐Ÿšซ

Surgically reversing a vasectomy is usually successful, so it would not need be left as permanent if a divorced man remarries.

Going through all the pain* and trouble only to be dumped would provide items of interest for a story though, and even more if he then goes through getting it reversed.

*Many describe it as like being kicked in the testicles but lasting for a week.

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