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Kudos to Lazeez for his latest announcement

Ernest Bywater ๐Ÿšซ

While I never reach the daily story limit, I'm sure many readers do, especially those with a basic account. I wish to thank Lazeez for his generosity in allowing readers to access a lot more stories during this time of restricted activity due to the current health scare.

To me, these actions shows Lazeez cares more for the community as a whole than a lot of the politicians and other people in the media do.

Thank you for caring, Lazeez.

Ernest

Replies:   Wheezer  REP  Switch Blayde  Remus2
Wheezer ๐Ÿšซ

@Ernest Bywater

Thank you for caring, Lazeez.

Ditto!

REP ๐Ÿšซ

@Ernest Bywater

I agree.

Keet ๐Ÿšซ

I bet a lot of non-premium members appreciate this greatly. It's hard enough to stay inside all the time so this hopefully helps a little to pass the time and forget the troubles for a short time.
Thanks Lazeez.

Hanz vGrieser ๐Ÿšซ

This IS a Kind & Generous benefit awarded to us.

Thanks

Pixy ๐Ÿšซ

Stand by for friction burns.... LOL

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Pixy

Lotion will lubricate the motion and prevent 'rug' burns.

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madnige ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

...So that's the next thing that will have empty supermarket shelves from panic buying.

joyR ๐Ÿšซ

With apologies to Lionel Richie

Download once, twice
Three times says Lazeez

And we love you...

:)

effendi ๐Ÿšซ

This is a surprise. And a good one!
Lazeez cares for us.
Thank you!

Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ

@Ernest Bywater

I've heard SOL readers don't read short stories because they quickly reach their limit. This is a good opportunity for them to try some.

Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

@Ernest Bywater

Agreed. It was a stand up move.

Second to that are the people staying home to read instead of risking spreading the problem.

StarFleet Carl ๐Ÿšซ

@Remus2

Second to that are the people staying home to read instead of risking spreading the problem.

And then there's those of us whose jobs are classified as essential ...

Replies:   Remus2
Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

@StarFleet Carl

And then there's those of us whose jobs are classified as essential ...

I'm retired, but the phone hasn't caught up to that message yet. I like my nice little slice of southern mountain isolation, but until my PE/RE cert expires, they probably won't get the message.

Those designated as essential don't have much choice unless they quit. Even then, some like nurses, police, emergency services can face legal issues if they quit during a declared emergency. That really sucks for them as they don't really have a choice in the matter.

Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Remus2

Even then, some like nurses, police, emergency services can face legal issues if they quit during a declared emergency.

Emergency or no, it would seem to me to be a major 13th amendment issue if they won't let someone quit.

Replies:   Keet  Remus2
Keet ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

Emergency or no, it would seem to me to be a major 13th amendment issue if they won't let someone quit.

My daughter is in the same situation. She might be able to quit but because of the oath she took she will never work again in her profession if she quits now. But it's worse than "can't quit". Part-time workers are forced to work full-time and even over-time regardless of their situation (i.e. kids etc.). My daughter even risks being interned completely because she works the "red zone", the corona ward.

Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ
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@Dominions Son

Emergency or no, it would seem to me to be a major 13th amendment issue if they won't let someone quit.

You might want to talk to some of those people. It can and has happened before. In particular, look up cases that happened during/after Katrina.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/9855340/ns/us_news-katrina_the_long_road_back/t/new-orleans-police-fire-desertion/

The lawsuits are still flying over that one. Rather than allow them to claim they quit, the abandoned post and firing went on their records.

That's just the police.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Remus2

The lawsuits are still flying over that one. Rather than allow them to claim they quit, the abandoned post and firing went on their records.

The news article you linked to makes it sound like they just walked away without notice.

It's one thing when you are a first responder and you just walk away with no notice.

Telling someone who provides formal advance notice of resignation that they can't quit is a different issue entirely.

Replies:   Remus2
Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

Telling someone who provides formal advance notice of resignation that they can't quit is a different issue entirely.

Let's get the context right shall we?

Here is what I said;

Those designated as essential don't have much choice unless they quit. Even then, some like nurses, police, emergency services can face legal issues if they quit during a declared emergency. That really sucks for them as they don't really have a choice in the matter.

You've taken my comments out of context once again.

You've taken the term curmudgeon to all new heights. If I told someone the sky is blue, you'd argue it was cyan. Please feel free to argue with the wall.

Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ
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@Remus2

Here is what I said;

It's not about what you said or how you worded it. I suggested it would create a 13A problem.

You then cited an example, but the example doesn't support your claim.

There are two issues with the article on the cops and hurricane Katrina.

1. The way the article is worded, they didn't show up for work, no notice, not even a couple of hours notice. The didn't call in sick. They just didn't show up.

Sorry, I don't consider not showing up to work without saying anything to your employer to be "quitting" your job. Any employer would list such a person as having been fired.

You can legally be required to provide formal notice of resignation by contract. I believe this is generally the case for most first responders.

If the article you cited is accurate about what happened, the result would have been the same even if there had been no emergency.

2. The cops in question were fired for dereliction of duty. They were not forced to keep working. So no 13A issue.

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Ernest Bywater ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

There are two issues with the article on the cops and hurricane Katrina.

There are a few more issues which aren't covered in the article. With hurricane Katrina the communications and access services to some areas were out very early in the event, so that raises the question of if the persons concerned were even able to communicate with their bosses from their locations, and the question of their ability to report to work. I've not seen enough detail to make a judgement in either direction and I would hope that the people who made the decisions had investigated those aspects before rendering a judgement.

Another issue is for the general question of working in a declared emergency is the declaration of the type of emergency as some, such as martial law, requires people to do whatever they're directed to do short of taking up arms for a combat role unless they're already military personnel. Some other emergency declaration also requires civilian compliance to assist with required work to deal with the emergency.

Because of the above the subject is way to open for discussion in an absolute form without going into the details of specific individual person in and incident.

richardshagrin ๐Ÿšซ

@Remus2

the sky is blue, you'd argue

At night it is black, on the average 12 hours. During certain events like rain, snow, hail, sandstorms, volcanic eruptions like Mt. St. Helens, perhaps other weather or disaster related events like hurricanes) it can be gray or at least partially not blue (sunrise, sunset, rainbows).

It isn't that hard to argue. I have also heard of green flashes.

Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ

@richardshagrin

I have also heard of green flashes.

That's when the sky goes through menopause.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Switch Blayde

That's when the sky goes through menopause.

What's the altitude of the menopause?

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Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

What's the altitude of the menopause?

The altitude the hot flashes occur.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Switch Blayde

The altitude the hot flashes occur.

But the atmosphere gets colder with increasing altitude. The menopause must be underground.

Replies:   samuelmichaels
samuelmichaels ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

But the atmosphere gets colder with increasing altitude. The menopause must be underground.

Quite a distance from Heliopause, then (where the sky is probably black).

Not_a_ID ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

I have also heard of green flashes.


That's when the sky goes through menopause.


What's the altitude of the menopause?

Sea level to my understanding, but in order to see it, you ideally need to be a couple hundred feet or more above sea level yourself.

In theory, you might be able to see it where the horizon is much higher than sea level, but I suspect the needed differential in elevation increases for the physics involved to happen.

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@richardshagrin

I have also heard of green flashes.

They used to be good budget-buy footwear. Then Dunlop went bust, Sports Direct bought the brand and shifted production to China :(

AJ

Vincent Berg ๐Ÿšซ

@Remus2

Those designated as essential don't have much choice unless they quit. Even then, some like nurses, police, emergency services can face legal issues if they quit during a declared emergency. That really sucks for them as they don't really have a choice in the matter.

The worst are the reports of multiple docs and nurses (primarily female, of course) who have opted to stay away from their families for the duration, lest they infect those they care for. That only adds to their stress, making it more difficult for them to fight a potential infection.

Just like the elderly in most nursing homes, who know they're soon to die, but who can't say a final goodbye to their families, and the isolation further restricts their immune systems. They say that each day of physical isolation is the equivalent of smoking 15 cigarettes in regard to their lifespan.

Ernest Bywater ๐Ÿšซ

@Remus2

the people staying home to read instead of risking spreading the problem.

Two months ago I was called an anti-social hermit, today I'm called a patriotic self-isolator. Go figure it, as I can't.

Replies:   MrWolf_UK  REP  Remus2  joyR  Keet
MrWolf_UK ๐Ÿšซ

@Ernest Bywater

As an avid gamer, I've been socially distancing for 40 years :-D

REP ๐Ÿšซ

@Ernest Bywater

There is "Situational Ethics" which is about ethics being defined by the situation.

You are defining "Situational Labeling/Profiling".

Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

@Ernest Bywater

Patriotic self-isolator. LOL I like that. Who knew "wouldn't touch em with a ten foot pole" would become social dogma?

Replies:   Keet
Keet ๐Ÿšซ

@Remus2

Patriotic self-isolator. LOL I like that. Who knew "wouldn't touch em with a ten foot pole" would become social dogma?

Nope, over here it's "keep at least 1.5 meter apart", so a 4.9 foot pole. Other countries have a 2 meter distance requirement so they have a 6.6 foot pole :D

Replies:   Remus2  awnlee jawking
Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

@Keet

Who knew "wouldn't touch em with a three meter pole" would become social dogma?

Translated for our metric compatriots :)

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Keet

Nope, over here it's "keep at least 1.5 meter apart", so a 4.9 foot pole. Other countries have a 2 meter distance requirement

We Brits are more potent coughers and spitters :(

so they have a 6.6 foot pole

Bet he/she plays basketball (if they play American netball in Poland). Or centre forward at football.

AJ

joyR ๐Ÿšซ
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@Ernest Bywater

Two months ago I was called an anti-social hermit, today I'm called a patriotic self-isolator. Go figure it, as I can't.

Two months ago you were an anti-social hermit.

Today you are an anti-social patriotic self-isolator.

:)

Sorry EB, I just couldn't resist.

Keet ๐Ÿšซ

@Ernest Bywater

Two months ago I was called an anti-social hermit, today I'm called a patriotic self-isolator. Go figure it, as I can't.

As long as there's electricity and an internet connection I'm good, little difference from otherwise. My daughter takes care of the food.

damoose ๐Ÿšซ

Lazeez, thank you for the gift.

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

I wonder whether the increased daily allowance for free members will reduce their scoring discrimination against serials with short chapters.

(When I clicked on 'Reply to Topic', the reply box came preloaded with a search string I'd previously typed into my browser as quoted text. Weird.)

AJ

Marius-6 ๐Ÿšซ

Thank you Lazeez.

I don't often have internet connection, so I appreciate being able to read quite a bit when I do get online.

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