Forum: Story Discussion and Feedback

That's why I don't exclude any story codes.

Me too. That's the point of the post.

if he used the SoL BDSM 'Torture' tag for 'The Count of Monte Cristo'.

The "torture" tag happens to be in the BDSM category. It doesn't have to be BDSM. I've had this discussion about the "humiliation" tag. I was told it had to go somewhere so that's where it went even if the humiliation wasn't part of BDSM.

Maybe you want more tags for things not sexual in nature.

It's not me. I'm the minority who sees SOL as a sex story site where the story codes were put in place for sex stories. Even Lazeez recently told me I'm wrong.

The story codes have been expanded to beyond sexual in nature. Take the "violent" code. The definition is: "Violence in the story, not necessarily of sexual nature."

And I agree 100% that using the same tags for sexual and non-sexual content is a sure way to confuse readers. I've said that in the past.

how can the vampires avoid growing in number so that they wipe out the humans they feed on?

Haven't you seen any of the Underworld movies? The werewolves keep them in check.

Werewolf? There, wolf!

In an actual attempt to discuss this with you, though, and based upon a lot of different lore regarding vampires, it's actually pretty simple. The elder vampires don't let them. Humans are cattle, simply prey to be fed upon, and only sometimes do you make or create another vampire. Although cattle may be too strong a word for the way vampires feel about humans, chickens is probably more appropriate.

If you have bacon and eggs for breakfast, the chicken was involved, but the pig was committed. So to the vampire, unless he has a desire for 'fried chicken', as it were, is simply going to tap two or three humans every day for a pint of blood, and they'll never miss it. If there was a holding facility with, say, 30 or 40 people in it, you could probably easily maintain 10 - 15 vampires as long as the people remained alive. At any given time, there are 90,000 active missing people cases in the U.S., and it ends up averaging out to about 600,000 total every year. Some of them are people who choose to not be found, some are people who were murdered or otherwise.

But even if you assumed that 95% of them were human related, that still means you could have 30,000 people out there - every year going missing to feed a population of vampires. If the people aren't killed, then in just 5 years, you've 150,000 people - enough to feed 50,000 vampires.

Note that the numbers of missing persons I use is REAL. We literally have that many.

I would have missed out on one of the best stories on SOL. ie. Dance of A Lifetime by Don Lockwood

Thanks for coming up with an SOL story. I tend to use mainstream stories as examples.

The real question that appears to have been avoided is - Are the codes to be used to code the story, the activities in the story, or both?

Not my intention in this thread. I was specifically talking about using the exclusion feature (which I forgot was premier only).

Story codes have been argued almost as much as the scoring system. It would work just fine the way it is if, AND IT'S A BIG IF, readers would be more accepting/tolerant.

All true. As an author, it would be nice to know if I should be coding the type of story or the individual activities. Lately I find that I code for the general story line and tend to ignore specific activities.

If done for sexual gratification, it is a subset of BDSM.

While activities like caning and whipping and bondage can be part of both, I very much doubt anyone will get much sexual pleasure from being the recipient of some of the more common active torture techniques used like having a fingers cut off etc. The torturer may get a sexual charge out of it, but the recipients and many readers won't.

while some of my stories may have it as part of character-story development, I never include it as anything sexy.

Then you would never read any of those stories you wrote because the definition of the rape code is "stories with violent rape." There's nothing in the definition about it being sexy.