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'Much sex' is where there is a high frequency of sexual acts

Would that basically be considered a 'Grand Slam'? :)

All making out is sexual. The way I have been interpreting things is that 1st base (kissing) doesn't count towards the sex tags. I see the sex tags as covering 2nd and 3rd base, and home run. 'Some sex' to me refers to frequency, where it adds to the story and/or character development, but is not a major part of the story.

You've got a point, but most of the tags on SOL are centered around either avoiding personal squicks, or seeking out your own perversions (so to speak). Thus your ideas tend to fall apart. No one is going to label a story which never advances beyond 2nd base as "much sex", no matter how frequently they do it. In fact, such a story would qualify for Fine Stories, which is by definition, a "No Sex" site which is considered safe for kids (with a high-reading level).

I wouldn't consider anything below a home run (relying on your baseball analogy) as counting towards the sexual content at all. Hopefully, your story will make the simple act of kissing incredibly sexual, as that's the nature of good writing, but it still doesn't rise the level the codes were designed for.

Screwing a different person in the ass ever single chapter? THAT's what the codes were designed to reflect!

"Sex" means PVI - Penis Vaginal Intercourse.

Try posting a story including anal penetration of an 11yo and you'll find the Canadian authorities take a different view ;)

AJ

"Sex" means PVI - Penis Vaginal Intercourse. Everything else is just playing around.

So anal sex and all gay sex, of whatever form, is by your definition, "just playing around", as the participants are simply buying time before getting around to the 'real thing'?

I get your point, but your overly specific terms are a bit disconcerting.

So anal sex and all gay sex, of whatever form, is by your definition, "just playing around"

I am definitely not going near a golf course with anyone who thinks playing a round has anything to do with anal sex of any form.

To me, there's a pretty fair argument for assigning those tags rough percentages (which will probably end up being personal)...Minimal Sex ix X%, Some Sex is Y%, and so forth.

That's how I do it, but I base it on the amount of sex as a percentage of the whole story. Thus some chapters have a lot of sex and some have no sex at all.

So where does cyber-sex fit into this then?

The general consensus in this thread seems to be sex requires physical contact, so cyber-sex doesn't qualify.

No, cyber-sex is provocative flirting. I agree, if your wife/girlfried catches you flirting you are dead.

I would consider mutual masturbation to be sex, to cyber-sex may or may not qualify, depending on circumstances.

To most people, you're correct. But we weren't discussing 'most people', but instead what's considered to be 'sex' in SOL stories. Even for gay stories on SOL (as rare as they are), mutual masturbation is considered merely 'flirting' as the characters build up to the 'full' sex act.

So where does cyber-sex fit into this then?

Cyber-sex is the modern equivalent of flirting (for all those girls who've given up on getting a commitment before moving in together).

All the facts and definitions are great, but if I'm writing it into my stories, I need to treat it as it is in the real world. In the real world, I don't know ANY woman who would not consider cyber-sex to be cheating.
In my experience they consider it "sex". (I have seen relationships split over this)

I'm no woman (tee-hee-hee), but we started out discussing what was the considerations were on SOL. Here, sex is ONLY full penetration, of one form or another. But in the real world, sex includes a whole host of things, covering anything from simple flirting to simply battling an eyelash at the wrong person, and playing word games, as Bill Clinton did, wins you NO converts.

By the way, pardon my clearly sexist joke earlier, ladies.