Just saw the blurb for a new story and was utterly confused.
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The Hidden Cove by The Hidden Writer
Two lifelong teens discover a hidden cove, transforming their friendship into a passionate, secret affair during a final summer at the lake, unaware their intimacy has created a new life.
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What does "Two lifelong teens" mean? they never age beyond 19?
Please help a non-native english speaker.
What does "Two lifelong teens" mean?
I guess he meant two lifelong friends (who were teens).
That's what I was guessing it meant but the way it was written didn't come anywhere close to saying that. But if the sories and blurbs are AI-generated, as TheDarkKnight says below, small wonder things get wrong.
but the way it was written didn't come anywhere close to saying that
That's because the adjective "lifelong" is modifying the wrong noun. The noun should be "friends" not "teens."
Not to be nitpicky, but 'teens' is also used to name a group of people in their teenage years.
I'll go quietly
Not to be nitpicky, but 'teens' is also used to name a group of people in their teenage years.
The adjective wasn't modifying the noun "teens." It should have modified the noun "friends." It could have been "lifelong teenage friends" (with two adjectives modifying the noun "friends").
It's a sign of someone who never reviews their own work, never catching their own mistakes. Mistakes in a story description are indicative of the whole story, as it's easy to ignore the occasional typo, yet the story description is more essential to keep as clean as possible.
As the story description is what draws readers to your story, and if an author can't grasp that simple concept, they're unlikely to ever advance very far in the field.
Then again, many just don't give a damn, not caring what others (i.e. potential readers) think, so they're more than happy squandering their own efforts.
Looks like all "his" stories are AI-generated, but I don't know if that includes the blurb. Whatever, that's kind of embarrassing. If I did that, I think I would want to be "Hidden ..." too.
What does "Two lifelong teens" mean? they never age beyond 19?
17.
18 + are adults. Adult trumps teen, always.
18 + are adults. Adult trumps teen, always.
I don't think that's a universal rule. I've often seen 18s referred to as teenagers.
I suspect it depends on context. In some cases, you would acknowledge them as adults. In other cases, when discussing teenagers, that includes everyone from 13 to 19.
I've often seen 18s referred to as teenagers
And it bothers me every time. Referring to 18s as teenagers is an attempt to make readers think they are talking about children.
As an example, gun control advocates in the US like to claim guns are the leading cause of death among children. But they only get to that by counting 18-21 year-olds (yes they go all the way up to 21) as "children".
As an example, gun control advocates in the US like to claim guns are the leading cause of death among children. But they only get to that by counting 18-21 year-olds (yes they go all the way up to 21) as "children".
I would say there a large number of people in their 20s in the 2020s who are less mature than individuals ten years younger than them in the 1820s or even 1920s.
In part, that is due to certain groups succeeding in the infantilization of those in their teens and early twenties.
Please notice that I did point out that it depends on context, whether 18-19 year olds get described as teens or not.
As an example, gun control advocates in the US like to claim guns are the leading cause of death among children. But they only get to that by counting 18-21 year-olds (yes they go all the way up to 21) as "children".
Your claim appears to be incorrect.
Report on Gun Violence in U.S. 2022 from John Hopkins, based on data accessed from the Centers for Disease Control's Underlying Cause of Death database.
Firearms were the leading cause of death for children and teens (ages 1-17) {in 2022}
{later} Firearms accounted for 30% of all the deaths that occurred among individuals ages 15-17.
I can't speak to how individuals advocating sensible regulations to control gun ownership present the data in their arguments, but it appears that the data supports the claim that guns are the leading cause of death among children and teens (1-17) without resorting to including the 18 to 21 year olds.
At least, that was true from 2020 to 2022. A fast search for more recent data seemed to support the idea that this hasn't changed but I haven't dived into it enough to confirm that.
Report on Gun Violence in U.S. 2022 from John Hopkins, based on data accessed from the Centers for Disease Control's Underlying Cause of Death database.
Firearms were the leading cause of death for children and teens (ages 1-17) {in 2022}
{later} Firearms accounted for 30% of all the deaths that occurred among individuals ages 15-17.I can't speak to how individuals advocating sensible regulations to control gun ownership present the data in their arguments, but it appears that the data supports the claim that guns are the leading cause of death among children and teens (1-17) without resorting to including the 18 to 21 year olds.
As always with statistical data, don't trust anyone Who uses those data in arguments. While the numbers may be true, they provide no information about:
• the number of guns involved
• the age of the shooters
• the legality of the ownership
For instance, making it harder to legally own a gun does not affect those guns someone gets illegally. Members of criminal organisations and street gangs have certainly not bought their weapons legally.
Restricting legal and illegal ownership of guns may just increase the use of other weapons, tools or sports equipment for killing people.
Weapons like swords, machetes, knives, staffs, arrows, spears, ...
Tools like hammers, screwdrivers, ice-picks, chainsaws, ...
Sport equipment like baseball bats, golf clubs, queues, ...
Building material like 2x4, ...
run-over by bus, lorry or car; thrown into a shredder; burned to death; killed by explosion; drowned; killed by suffocation; ...
HM.
As always with statistical data, don't trust anyone Who uses those data in arguments.
Please notice that I was using the data specifically to respond to an incorrect claim about what the data said.
Personally, I would rather trust someone who makes a claim and has data to back it up, than someone who simply makes emotive claims with no evidence.
I don't want to turn this thread into a political discussion, so I will restrict myself to saying this. It is fairly clear that USA as a society has a huge problem with guns. The alarming death rate of children and teens in USA for gun-related reasons is a symptom of that problem.
It is also fairly clear that there are no simple solutions to that problem. The issues are deep-seated and nuanced and inextricably linked to the political and personal histories of the US people.
I agree with that statement. I have not seen any official statistics about the size of the city of the city or where the shooter came from. As I recall (from a college course in in the 1960's) if you over crowd mice, they become very violent. Perhaps the question that needs to be ask is "Does this happen with people?"
Yes it does. If you look at statistics, most of the shootings are in the cities. Through March 14, they have had 76 homicides so far this year in the city of Chicago.
I don't think that's a universal rule. I've often seen 18s referred to as teenagers.
Real world - 13 to 19 = teenagers.
SOL sex codes - 14 to 17 = teenagers
AJ
Real world - 18 to 19 = Adults.
TEENAGER | English meaning - Cambridge Dictionary
dictionary.cambridge.org ' dictionary ' english ' teenager
a young person between 13 and 19 years old. The magazine is aimed at teenagers and young adults.
AJ
TEENAGER | English meaning - Cambridge Dictionary
You can't just go by the dictionary definition.
For example, the dictionary definition of statutory rape, consensual sex between an adult and minor, is rape, but it is not on SOL.
For example, the dictionary definition of statutory rape
I think that's the legal definition, not the common English usage reported in dictionaries.
AJ
I think that's the legal definition, not the common English usage reported in dictionaries.
The Merriam-Webster dictionary definition of the noun rape:
"unlawful sexual activity and usually sexual intercourse carried out forcibly or under threat of injury against a person's will or with a person who is beneath a certain age or incapable of valid consent because of mental illness, mental deficiency, intoxication, unconsciousness, or deception"
I bolded the underage part that I referenced in my statutory rape comment.
And the dictionary definition of statutory rape is:
"statutory rape
noun
: sexual intercourse with a person who is below the statutory age of consent"
Their origins might be legal, but they're in the everyday dictionary.
The Oxford Advanced Learners Dictionary says that 'statutory rape' is (North American English, law).
I find that strange because I thought it had made its way into British law too. I'm sure I've seen it used in connection with Pakistani grooming gangs.
It also says that 'statutory rape' is a noun, which I also find strange because 'statutory' is an adjective in its own right and rape is a noun. I suppose that's because the pair made a noun in legalese.
I'm not sure what the point is. If a 19yo male has sex with a 13yo female, it might be statutory rape but both participants are still teenagers (according to the Merriam-Webster definition of teenager). Except, in the context of SOL sex codes.
AJ
If a 19yo male has sex with a 13yo female, it might be statutory rape but both participants are still teenagers
They may be literally teenagers, but one is an adult and one a minor.
@awnlee jawking
If a 19yo male has sex with a 13yo female, it might be statutory rape but both participants are still teenagers
They may be literally teenagers, but one is an adult and one a minor.
The way most statutory rape laws in the US were originally written, they could both be minors and it would still be statutory rape. There were a couple of prominent cases of minor boys being prosecuted for statutory rape after the advent of sex offender registries.
This led to states starting to pass close in age exceptions to statutory rape, often referred to as "Romeo and Juliet" laws. My understanding is that the first was passed by Florida in 2007.
It is also my understanding that there are still a few states that do not have close in age exemptions.
Eighteen year-olds are on the cusp, an adult teen. I suffered through this discrepancy, a I was legally allowed to drink (beer and wine only) for a full year, before they changed the law and suddenly it was a crime for me to take a drink. And even then, I couldn't purchase a mixed drink until I was 21.
Luckily, I was mature enough, no one ever carded me, though again, i stayed away from the locations which did (Wisconsin bars rather than Chicago bars).
While in Europe, at the time, they taught their kids how to properly drink, as they considered wine as part of their daily meals (pairing the wine with the meal). Thus those children learn how to drink properly, while in the U.S.A., kids go without, so once they reach the legal age, they go wild, drinking every chance they get.
And they continually wonder why American teens have such problems and why our addition rates are so high.
My wife and I took a similar approach, slowly introducing our kids to 'safe drinking'. Until we caught them finishing off the bottle we'd served for dinner. As a result, we cut them off entirely, as we considered it a sign they weren't mature enough to drink.
That said, they both drank responsively for the rest of their lives, so clearly, we were understandably mistaken at the time.
What does "Two lifelong teens" mean? they never age beyond 19?
He probably meant they stayed mentally/emotionally teens while getting older. I've met a few such people which in their forties acted like teenagers or even preteens.
HM.
He probably meant they stayed mentally/emotionally teens while getting older.
Except the tags are mt/ft and teenagers.
I checked the story out or curiosity.
The story's description states lifelong friends not teenagers.
The story's description states lifelong friends not teenagers.
"The Hidden Cove"? That's not what I see.
I didn't look at the title. That is what the original poster called the story.
edited to add the following:
It is also what the author named the story. Since posting the story, the author has posted 2 additional stories. So you may have to scroll down to see it in the list of the aurthor's stories.
One thing I find unusual is the author has posted seven stories in the past week. Either it was just a timing issue for writing and preparing the stories or the author has used AI to write the stories and posted the stories with little or no editing.
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The Hidden Cove by The Hidden Writer
You must have looked up the author — The Hidden Writer
His numerically first story is "A Better Us" which has in the description: "A blizzard traps lifelong friends…"
The second listed story is "Figuring it Out Together" which has in the description: "Two lifelong friends…"
It's the fourth listed story called "The Hidden Cove" that has in its description: "Two lifelong teens…" that the OP referenced.
The first two were fine with "lifelong friends." It's the one that has "lifelong teens" that's the issue.
One thing I find unusual is the author has posted seven stories in the past week. Either it was just a timing issue for writing and preparing the stories or the author has used AI to write the stories
The stories have the "AI Generated" tag. And even though they are AI stories, they have really good scores. So according to SOL readers, AI doesn't always generate crap.
according to SOL readers, AI doesn't always generate crap.
Or more accurately...
according to those SOL readers who read and vote on stories with the AI tag, AI doesn't always generate crap.
(and the "read and" bit might be irrelevant. Perhaps there's some AI agents that automatically give high scores to AI stories!)
I've read those highly rated stories, and while they do receive decent scores, it's still clear the author has no actual expertise in writing, as it's easy enough to discern an AI from an consciously written story.
Luckily, now we know there will be NO Singularity Event where the computers take over, as AI is not too insipid to do anything worthwhile. Though we paid for that with out entertainment, as now there's few real stories remaining to read, and not just on SOL.
Luckily, now we know there will be NO Singularity Event where the computers take over, as AI is not too insipid to do anything worthwhile.
What we have now that they call "AI" which bears zero resemblance to the presentation of "AI" in science fiction can not produce a singularity event.
That isn't proof that "real" AI couldn't.
That said, we are a very long way away from AI that matches how AI is portrayed in science fiction. Likely centuries, assuming true AI is possible at all.
If you take out the number of "teens" who are members of street gangs, the number of "children" killed goes way down.
But it's not politically correct to admit that.
If you take out the number of "teens" who are members of street gangs, the number of "children" killed goes way down.
True.
Looking at it from the outside (I'm German and live in Germany), the "No firearms on school grounds" policy is not helpful and increases the number of victims in cases of school massacres. The shooter obviously ignored the policy and there is nobody there who can stop him. He (or she) has far too much time for killing students, teachers and other staff personal until finally the police arrives and ends the bloodbath, let's hope without waiting for the arrival of a higher police officer.
I do plead for restrictions in getting a carry permit fot firearms, but they must make sense, like restricting the number and types of firearms you can legally own (no private citizen needs a belt-fed .50 cal machine gun). Everyone who carries a firearm should prove once a year his proficiency in using it or the permit gets revoked. (Everyone means everyone, police officers, security guys, private citizens, all the same).
HM.
Consider this. Very few of mass shooters have any kind of firearms permit. The only one I heard of with a carry permit was an ex-police officer who went crazy. You don't need any permit if you are going use stolen guns.
You don't need any permit if you are going use stolen guns.
That's exactly the fact most anti-gun activists ignore.
But I also see the problem of inexperienced people using guns. If they only shoot themselves in the foot would be okay for me, but hitting bystanders caused by inexperience should not happen. This applies to police officers and security personnel too, if they are not proficient with their weapon, they should not carry one. They are doing the wrong job. BTW, the British example proofs police officers can do most of their job without a gun.
HM.
BTW, the British example proofs police officers can do most of their job without a gun.
The case of Jean Charles de Menezes proves that the British Police are mostly too incompetent to be allowed guns. A crack squad of armed police fired at innocent tourist Mr Menezes at point blank range but mostly missed.
AJ
proves that the British Police are mostly too incompetent to be allowed guns.
I'm quite certain of a similar degree of incompetence in other countries police forces, but they still allow them to carry guns.
HM.
It seems we read different reports. I guess we'll never really know, especially as the footage from the tube carriage magically disappeared.
AJ
11 casings on the ground, 7 shots to the head 1 to the shoulder. https://web.archive.org/web/20090109143617/http://www.dispatch.co.za/2005/08/23/Foreign/amendez.html
No mention of the shoulder or 11 casings. It reads like a columnist or a blog, rather than a news report.
As I said, other sources vary.
There was a science fiction story a long time ago.
In it every person over six years must take fire arm training every year and carry a gun on their person.
It was against the law to point a gun at a person first, once a gun was shown out of its holster, every other person had the right of law to gun them down.
Most of the guns were basic six shooters.
I believe the story was in one of the SF magazines or a book of short stories. If anyone knows it, I would like to know.
Remove black people from the numbers and the US is safer per capita than most of Europe. Also, citizens absolutely need belt fed .50 cal machine guns especially now that every first world government is ignoring the will of their populations re:immigration.