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JoeBobMack ๐Ÿšซ

TL/DR: Setting goals has boosted my productivity and enjoyment. Do you set goals or track productivity, how, and to what effect?

First, many thanks to the authors that post here. I'm writing for fun and hearing from others about how they write and what writing is like for them is very helpful. For example, some recent discussion in another thread about first drafts with lots of dialogue (and vice versa, but I go the dialogue route) and needing to add descriptions and actions back in was very helpful.

So, as I said, I write for my pleasure, not for views or scores or even comments. And certainly not for dollars--pretty sure the per-hour return would be depressing! But, fun can include getting better. That can be in a higher quality output, but I'm also finding that it can just be about output, especially for first drafts.

Recently, I was inspired by a book on "New Pulp" to focus on production, setting a goals, and using an activity tracker to record progress toward them on a daily basis. As a result, I've boosted my production pretty dramatically over the last six weeks or so. That has been fun, plus it helped me hammer out of some doldrums I'd encountered in the middle of a series where too many possible paths had created inertia.

My goals were:

**At least 1,000 words as many days in a row as possible, with activity tracker set so I could record each time I hit 1,000.

**2,000/day, 10,000/week, 45,000/month

I hadn't checked since starting this approach, but just now did. From 12/12/2021 to 1/12/2022, the word count on the current book in the series went up by just over 60,000 words. So, success! Yea, me! Feel good about my hobby!

What are your thoughts, techniques, tips, etc. What works for you? What unusual approaches have you heard of from others or read about?

Ernest Bywater ๐Ÿšซ

@JoeBobMack

I write what and when the muse takes me. Sometimes real life events cause my muse to go into hiding for periods. There are days, weeks, and months when I write nothing, but there are times I've punched out a 250,000 word story in one sitting or three of four 50,000 word stories in one sitting.

I do have an issue with getting back to a story when my initial train of thought and productivity have been disturbed by real life events, by I do usually get back to them, eventually. That's why I currently have over 980,000 words tied up in 37 works in progress I'm working on.

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I write for pleasure and never look at the scores or downloads except when having a discussion about them or I need the stats for some external reason.

I write because I have a story or stories to tell and work at telling them as best as I can. I'm just glad others like them as well.

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I've heard of people who set themselves goals of 'x' words per day / week and work at meeting those targets. Sadly, this often ends up with lots of crappy sections of work in their stories because they still sit down and add their 'x' words regardless of the state or location of their muse at that time. Thus the sections written while their muse is resting destroys the quality of the story.

The reverse side of the 'x' words a day style is many people will stop writing when they hit that target, despite their muse being in full flight pushing them to write more, but they stop because they hit their target. This also adversely affects the story.

Years ago I was involved in the NaNoWriMo for a few years. This was initially a US nation writing competition but went worldwide where they encouraged people to write a 50,000 word novel during November each year. If you have an idea and the muse helps you meet your target with ease. The first year I did a 100,000 word story in the first week, in a later year I found the constant emails and pressure to write damned annoying and was very glad when I stopped getting messages from them about it.

It's been my experience that pressure, either internally or externally, sends my muse into hiding for a while, and this is often true of many other authors.

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JoeBobMack ๐Ÿšซ

@Ernest Bywater

I've heard of people who set themselves goals of 'x' words per day / week and work at meeting those targets. Sadly, this often ends up with lots of crappy sections of work in their stories because they still sit down and add their 'x' words regardless of the state or location of their muse at that time. Thus the sections written while their muse is resting destroys the quality of the story.

The reverse side of the 'x' words a day style is many people will stop writing when they hit that target, despite their muse being in full flight pushing them to write more, but they stop because they hit their target. This also adversely affects the story.

Thanks for the response, Ernest! I've have no desire to turn my writing into a job, but on the other hand, I find that, even though I enjoy the experience of producing more of my story, it's challenging! My mind wants to run off and think about future challenges in the story, or quibble about choices, or whatever. But, once I start writing a scene, I get into a flow state and things move forward, sometimes in unexpected directions, and that's fun. I've never been one to let something like these goals dominate me, even when I was working and the goals were ladened with more consequences. Especially now, it's just a nudge - "Write a few words, see what happens," or, "Look - over 400 words, you can sure hit 1,000!" Then, the push to 1,000 runs over and I think, "Well, 2,000 won't be that hard." And so forth and so on. But, when I get tired, or there's something else, it's actually easier to shut down because I've already accomplished something on my goal.

People differ, and even what works now may not in the future!

Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ

@JoeBobMack

Setting goals and increasing productivity sounds like a business to me. I've read how famous authors describe their routines like that but it's a business for them. Even though I sell novels, for me it's not a business.

I write when I'm in the mood. Like Ernest, I can go weeks or even months without writing. When I force myself to write, I will probably stop writing. It won't be fun. It'll be work.

Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ

@JoeBobMack

When I was a writer of commercial fiction, I set myself the goal of 1000/day 5 days a week. Any more words, and the quality clearly dropped. Any more days, and I didn't have the flexibility to skip a day because Life Happened. I let myself write more, if the well of inspiration kept flowing, but that was the goal, and for the most part this was fast enough to meet my deadlines.

Now that I'm writing fiction purely for myself, no goals. I like it when I manage 1k in a day, but i don't stress it. Stressing it chokes me. I'm telling myself a story in my own time, so sit back and listen.

StarFleet Carl ๐Ÿšซ

@JoeBobMack

My goal when I'm writing a novel is to have a 15 chapter buffer, with the book being about 30 chapters long. That way, I can start posting and it's normally not that difficult to write about 12,000 - 14,000 words per week. If real life interferes, well, that's why I have a buffer. Or if the creative juices just aren't flowing, then I still have a buffer.

That way, I can have my most recently finished chapter at Editor One, while my other two editors are plugging away at the previous two.

There's no actual set number that I try for. If I see things in my mind, I may end up writing 15+ pages in a single sitting. Other times, I may open the file and just look at it, trying to figure out where things need to go. I'm one of those authors that, if I take the time to outline the entire story before I start writing it, well, I've already subconsciously written it, so filling things in just doesn't work for me.

Replies:   Fanlon  Grey Wolf
Fanlon ๐Ÿšซ

@StarFleet Carl

The buffer method is perfect. There is no such thing as too big of a buffer.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Fanlon

There is no such thing as too big of a buffer.

Until you're run over by a bus and the story that's complete on your computer remains forever incomplete on SOL :-(

AJ

Replies:   StarFleet Carl
StarFleet Carl ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

the story that's complete on your computer

gets posted to SOL by your editors, who've already seen everything you've written ...

And in my case, it helps that one of my editors is my son, so if I fall over dead, he'll have access to my computers and login information.

Grey Wolf ๐Ÿšซ

@StarFleet Carl

I'm trying to hold to more around a 30-chapter buffer (my chapters are shorter than many people's - I think - and I post three a week).

I have a goal of at least three chapters a week (roughly 11,000 words). That keeps the buffer steady. I'd like to do better, and often I do, but then often I don't.

However, it's a goal, not a requirement. I wrote far less over the past two weeks, because I've had some major tasks and also a vacation.

Simply tracking my writing has helped. I hate putting down zero for a day, but I also don't like writing something just to 'write something'. If it's a zero for good reason, it's a zero.

Freyrs_stories ๐Ÿšซ

@JoeBobMack

I like all these responses, I think that I'd primarily be interested in them as statistics to see over time.
What method do you use JBM? and what platform is it available on? Presently my 'work' machine is Windows 10 but the hardware is ancient. read old enough that they've reused the model number of the CPU now. not joking.

I think I'd really like to be able to break 'productivity' down into categories so I have a handle on how long what sort of writing is taking me. i.e. outlines, Dialogues and fine detail, train of thought and actual conscious writing towards a set goal. They're not in any order, just as they don't follow a preset pattern. Roll the die on the day and see what my muse 'says'.

I do have solid plans to move to a *NIX machine in the near future, though it will be virtual. there's already 3 computers, 3 monitors and 1 Keyboard & mouse on my desk. lots more hardware 'set aside' for projects.

Projects means a plan AND budget to roll out changes in the house to finally make use of all that 'stored' hardware. I know this may not be the most technical group, but what are people's thoughts on Microsoft Windows Server 2022 Data Center as a hyper-visor, for sandboxes of various projects and purposes?

Along with building *NIX VM's I'm planing on rolling up my physical machines into VHD's and archiving the work / history on them. Actual plans are for 2-3 new physical machines by mid next year. dependent on that pesky budget, time / coin. and no these will not in any way be cheap machines. one will be a consolidated file server with Jails to farm out set functions. the other will be a high power daily driver, for gaming, file processing, and a bit of personal study / education. I'll be happy to go back to a single PC at my desk. though I'll be keeping the 3 monitors as the more real estate there the better.

Replies:   Keet
Keet ๐Ÿšซ

@Freyrs_stories

I know this may not be the most technical group, but what are people's thoughts on Microsoft Windows Server 2022 Data Center as a hyper-visor, for sandboxes of various projects and purposes?

You're better of with KVMManager or Proxmox and your VM's on a NAS. No need for a MS server that eats resources and adds nothing if you only use VM's.

Replies:   Freyrs_stories
Freyrs_stories ๐Ÿšซ

@Keet

NAS is one of the 'new' ones to be built, just have to budget out the drives. NAS will in all likely hood be TrueNAS, and store a decent amount of my media library. eventually it will also hold the images for the VMs.

One of the purposes of the MS server is to act as a Domain Controller. I'm pretty o fay with that side of things and I see no reason not to use enterprise level tech at home to make it a secure home whilst allowing 'some' external access. and heavy division of hardware when it's all set up and installed. Just don't ask me what the total cost for all this will be. you'll blanch. The VM server is actually pretty beastly. HP DL380 so not skimping on the hardware. I still need to set up the rack to hold most of parts I'll be using. I really want to get back to a clean desk. not this one with cables and shit everywhere.

Replies:   Keet
Keet ๐Ÿšซ

@Freyrs_stories

One of the purposes of the MS server is to act as a Domain Controller.

For home usage? Seems a little over the top to me. I understand the need for strict control over user authentication but unless you really need Active Directory (or any windows for what it matters), a good firewall needs less maintenance and does the job. You really have to know what you are doing otherwise a domain controller leaves more holes than a properly set up firewall.

Replies:   Freyrs_stories
Freyrs_stories ๐Ÿšซ

@Keet

yes it dose. I'm OK with it (managing AD) but I'll be putting in a proper firewall as well

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