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Kat Sakaro ๐Ÿšซ

I've noticed in some Author blogs that they saw their votes broken down and mentioned that people vote for x number. Is it true? am I missing something?

Replies:   The Outsider
The Outsider ๐Ÿšซ
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@Kat Sakaro

Well, we can see about how many of each vote there is for each story, but not how each voter voted...

If you go to your stats page, click on the story name at the far left; this will take you to a new page with a bar graph showing vote distribution.

Kat Sakaro ๐Ÿšซ

@The Outsider

I've tried that and it doesn't show me that.

Replies:   Switch Blayde
Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ

@Kat Sakaro

I've tried that and it doesn't show me that.

Scroll down.

Replies:   CB
CB ๐Ÿšซ

@Switch Blayde

I think Kat is suffering from the same problem that I am. We are new authors and I think we are not grandfathered in to see those stats. I wondered about this for weeks before I found an old post from Laz saying that he was taking out the function for new authors.

So, enjoy your stress from the vote tallies you old hats (I'm not jealous...nope... I'm not.)

Replies:   Darian Wolfe
Darian Wolfe ๐Ÿšซ

@CB

Just keep writing and eventually you'll earn Premium membership. That's how I got mine. If you have the bucks you can also purchase it. Lol, my pockets have almost no depth that's why I had to write my way in.

Replies:   CB
CB ๐Ÿšซ

@Darian Wolfe

I've been a paid premium member for a year as a reader. Is there a different one for an author?

https://storiesonline.net/d/s2/t1638/some-changes#po27018

Is the thread where it mentions new authors are restricted from seeing vote tables. I don't mind but I wish this had been in the FAQ because I had been going crazy for weeks wondering why I could not get it to work.

Replies:   Darian Wolfe
Darian Wolfe ๐Ÿšซ

@CB

It's the same thing as paid membership. However, it takes awhile to post enough stories to qualify. By the time you do post enough you are no longer a new author.

Replies:   joyR
joyR ๐Ÿšซ

@Darian Wolfe

It's the same thing as paid membership. However, it takes awhile to post enough stories to qualify. By the time you do post enough you are no longer a new author.

Since it is calculated on the cumulative size of the stories posted, it is possible to qualify by posting a single story of sufficient size, and therefore qualify whilst still being a new author. Unlikely, but entirely possible.

Replies:   CB  StarFleet Carl
CB ๐Ÿšซ

@joyR

I'm at 232KB of the 500KB required for a free premium account and I have probably only posted a third of the chapters I have written so far on my first story so I'd expect to meet the threshold.

Replies:   joyR
joyR ๐Ÿšซ

@CB

I'm at 232KB of the 500KB required for a free premium account and I have probably only posted a third of the chapters I have written so far on my first story so I'd expect to meet the threshold.

Congratulations. However I meant that it is possible in a single upload.

StarFleet Carl ๐Ÿšซ

@joyR

Unlikely, but entirely possible.

Easily possible, and not unlikely at all. (Looking at my stats, showing size, original posting date, number of downloads, and current score)

1 Legacy of a Legend 2395 2016-04-10 86997 8.14
2 Saturday Afternoon 53 2018-03-24 11101 7.06
3 Winds of History 13 2018-07-15 5300 6.52
4 Love Never Changes 2326 2019-08-09 71151 8.58
5 A True History 2219 2020-03-28 264917 8.53
6 A True History - Book Two 744 2020-08-01 82468 8.88

Yes, Legacy of a Legend needs redone. As soon as I finish the minor edits I'm doing on Love Never Changes and get it posted up on SciFi stories, Legacy will be next. (That's, of course, in addition to finishing writing ATH: Book Two)

elevated_subways ๐Ÿšซ

@The Outsider

Where is the stats page? I can't seem to find it. Thank you.

Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ
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@elevated_subways

At the very top of the SOL home page is a link called Authors/Editors. Click on that. There is a cluster of buttons in three rows under the heading Manage: Left most button in the middle row is is Story Stats.

If you click on the title of one of your stories, you will get more detailed stats on that specific story.

Replies:   elevated_subways
elevated_subways ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

Okay, thank you, I got it.

Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ

@elevated_subways

You can also sort the results by clicking on the column heading.

Eddie Davidson ๐Ÿšซ
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I feel like the voting system would be a lot more constructive if it remained anonymous but you were REQUIRED to leave a comment.

When you select Vote - the system should say "Would you please share a short constructive comment to tell the author why you chose this score?"

If the comment is private (only author can read) or not that would be good. If it can detect that this comment was repeated that would be good too.

This would prevent the unabomber from quickly going through your entire catalog of stories to troll them with a 1 point. It could catch "you posted this comment already"

This way we could learn why we are getting a 1. It irks me. "You call this a story?"

"Yes, well it is 30 well-edited chapters with a start, middle and end and all the codes are appropriate. The summary was descriptive."

But maybe the reader is just a dick or was like "Yeah but I don't like those kind of stories so I am punishing you for posting them on this site."

Which is what I think is frequently happening.

Replies:   bk69
bk69 ๐Ÿšซ

@Eddie Davidson

That happens. Especially for certain types of content.

Other reasons include people objecting to the relative scores of one story versus another that they prefer, and trying to balance them. Or people with a personal grudge against a writer. Or people who disagree with what they believe the writer believes. Or people who really really wish the writer would specialize in their kink rather than anyone elses (which I'm fairly certain was a source of some of rache's legion of unobombers.)

Eddie Davidson ๐Ÿšซ

I think what would be cool is if anyone could vote but only PAID (real money) counted as a vote in the scores.

Yes, you can be a dick but you have to pay be one.

Replies:   bk69
bk69 ๐Ÿšซ

@Eddie Davidson

Then Laz would have to find a way to distinguish paid premium accounts from author premium accounts.
And there's also the question as to whether the readership would find scores to be of any use whatsoever, since it's entirely possible that the subset of voters responsible for the scores might have vastly different opinions on stories than everyone else...

Replies:   Keet  JimWar
Keet ๐Ÿšซ

@bk69

Then Laz would have to find a way to distinguish paid premium accounts from author premium accounts.

That should not be a problem using the available account data.

And there's also the question as to whether the readership would find scores to be of any use whatsoever, since it's entirely possible that the subset of voters responsible for the scores might have vastly different opinions on stories than everyone else...

The readership does find it useful otherwise no one would vote. It's unpredictable if the scores get more reliable if only the votes from paying members were counted.

Replies:   bk69
bk69 ๐Ÿšซ

@Keet

The readership does find it useful otherwise no one would vote. It's unpredictable if the scores get more reliable if only the votes from paying members were counted.

If you understand the true limitations of statistics... current scores are representative of the opinions of those people willing to vote. In the described scenario, scores would only be representative of the opinions of those paid members who were willing to vote. You always have to limit the population size to the smallest group you can identify your sample all originating from.
Now, it's possible that paid members and free members have identical opinions of stories, but there's no reason that must be so, so...

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@bk69

Now, it's possible that paid members and free members have identical opinions of stories,

I would expect paying members to be harsher critics.

That should be testable. Only paying members are allowed to vote in competitions. Monitor what happens to competition entry scores after the results have been made public and free members become eligible to vote.

AJ

Replies:   bk69
bk69 ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

But how do you intend to correct for all the possible factors?
Certain content will likely score better with one population than another. One group will look at technical quality as more important than the other group. The competition entries usually don't have the author's identity attached, and we know that a story being from the 'right' author is worth extra points to some voters. That's just a few of the independent variables...

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@bk69

Of those, I anticipate the author's identity as potentially causing the biggest distortion. But the really big hitters don't seem to have graced the recent competitions.

AJ

JimWar ๐Ÿšซ

@bk69

Laz does distinguish between paid premium accounts and author premium accounts otherwise he would not be able to allow paid premium members to vote for stories in the writing contest and not allow author premium accounts to vote (see contest rules).

Eddie Davidson ๐Ÿšซ

It took me a while to earn membership. At first, I was just hoping to get that far. Once I started writing - I found it addictive.

Eddie Davidson ๐Ÿšซ

I think paying should have a priority over us schmucks who write.

I am okay with that. Laz does all of this for us and deserves every penny and then some.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Eddie Davidson

I think paying should have a priority over us schmucks who write.

Where would the site be without any stories?

There needs to be a balance.

AJ

Replies:   Eddie Davidson
Eddie Davidson ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

didn't say we shouldn't be here - just that pay should get priority - that's all.

I am more than willing to accept that.
Just my two cents.

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