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Some Automation for those who need it

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)
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I implemented automation for chapter posting deferral for serial stories.

So you can submit a serial story and have chapters posted at defined dates in one shot.

there is now a {date} tag for chapters.

How to use it:

Under the chapter title put the tag like so:

{date:2019-10-20a}

That makes the chapter appears on the site on the 20th of October, 2019 at 8am.

{date:2019-11-10p}

That makes the chapter appears on the site on the 10th of November, 2019 at 8pm.

You can schedule multiple chapters to show up at the same time, but each scheduled chapter must contain a tag.

Limitations:

1 - Works only on whole story submissions. The timing script will mark a story completed when it runs out of scheduled chapters.

2 - First text can't be scheduled with a tag. So the date tag will be ignore in the first part containing text. You schedule the first posting with the wizard's current scheduler.

3 - Format is rigid. No spaces inside tag. Any syntax error makes the system ignore tag and chapter end up on the site on the initial posting and the tag remains in the text.

4 - Dates earlier than processing time are ignored. If you schedule your story to post on the 20th of October and chapter 2's schedule is for the 18th, the tag is removed and the chapter is posted with chapter 1.

Example for a text file:

My first story

by my pen name

[optional cover text]

Chapter 1[: optional chapter title]

chapter 1 text....

Chapter 2: Merry Christmas

{date:2019-12-25a}

Chapter 2's text.

etc...

Ernest Bywater ๐Ÿšซ

Thank you very much for this as it will save me a lot of work when I finish my next story and post it. I gather this will also be available on the sister sites soon.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Ernest Bywater

Any code deployed works on all three sites immediately. There is no delay.

Michael Loucks ๐Ÿšซ

Thanks much! This will make things SO much better, though I'll have to go through and tag each chapter, but I can script that on my Mac.

Now, if you could make it such that there was a simple checkbox which configured chapters to be posted sequentially, one per day, without any necessary tags...(on the theory that it never hurts to ask).

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)
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@Michael Loucks

Now, if you could make it such that there was a simple checkbox which configured chapters to be posted sequentially, one per day, without any necessary tags

You mean like a step in the submission system to click a box like 'post gradually' and you choose a length of time between posts?

Now that I have the tag handler in the system it shouldn't be too much work to implement. However, I always worry about complicating the posting process for the majority of authors for the needs of the very few.

I'll see about adding an optional step in the wizard.

For now these new tags give more control over the posting process as you can choose exact dates to post chapters.

Michael Loucks ๐Ÿšซ
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@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

You mean like a step in the submission system to click a box like 'post gradually' and you choose a length of time between posts?

My suggestion was daily, but yes, setting an interval would probably be useful for some.

Now that I have the tag handler in the system it shouldn't be too much work to implement. However, I always worry about complicating the posting process for the majority of authors for the needs of the very few.

I'll see about adding an optional step in the wizard.

Much appreciated. How about a checkbox/radio button on the author page which gives 'advanced' or 'normal' options when posting? Default to 'normal' and don't show the dialogue for posting incrementally/progressively.

As always, thanks for providing us with good tools to use!

For now these new tags give more control over the posting process as you can choose exact dates to post chapters.

Yes, that's true. :-)

One clarification question - do I post the first chapter, and then post the remaining chapters as a zip file with the tags? Or am I able to post everything at once?

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Michael Loucks

One clarification question - do I post the first chapter, and then post the remaining chapters as a zip file with the tags? Or am I able to post everything at once?

You have to post all in one shot.

If you post a chapter, the 'New Chapter' handler does not handle the new tags. For now, anything existing will have to use the current wizard scheduler for new chapters.

Replies:   Michael Loucks
Michael Loucks ๐Ÿšซ

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

If you post a chapter, the 'New Chapter' handler does not handle the new tags. For now, anything existing will have to use the current wizard scheduler for new chapters.

Got it. I misread/misunderstood the mention of 'first chapter' in your initial post. My bad. Sorry.

Replies:   Vincent Berg
Vincent Berg ๐Ÿšซ

@Michael Loucks

Got it. I misread/misunderstood the mention of 'first chapter' in your initial post. My bad. Sorry.

Lazeez's phrasing was a little fuzzy, but I'd assumed he meant that the first chapter, as part of an all-at-once post, would post immediately by default, which works out anyway.

Vincent Berg ๐Ÿšซ

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

You mean like a step in the submission system to click a box like 'post gradually' and you choose a length of time between posts?

Now that's an excellent ideas.

Now that I have the tag handler in the system it shouldn't be too much work to implement. However, I always worry about complicating the posting process for the majority of authors for the needs of the very few.

Just have it default to "Post all now" and that should take care of most posters. While it will add more qualifiers than most might care fore, it should be easy enough to overlook.

Speaking for myself, though, I've always preferred posting by hand (though you never know when it will post using that approach), as that way, I always review the chapter beforehand, and whenever someone comments, the contents of the chapter are still fresh in my mind. With posting it all at once, each chapter tends to become a blur, requiring authors to open their master document to figure out what happens in each specific chapter (minor bitch--feel free to ignore).

Jason Samson ๐Ÿšซ

Fantastic! Will use :)

Honey_Moon ๐Ÿšซ

I just post when the chapter is ready. I'm posting a story very soon with two chapters finished. More will come, but I'll post one and two for immediate listing. I don't see me ever using the new feature.

Uther_Pendragon ๐Ÿšซ

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Just used it, and I'll see how it goes.

A couple of questions arose. If I post the entire thing to be on screen at three different days, is the story complete or to be continued.s

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)
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@Uther_Pendragon

The posting script looks for more parts after the one scheduled for posting, If it finds no more scheduled parts after the one(s) being posted at run time, it will mark the story as complete.

If you mark the story as completed at upload time, and it has scheduled parts, the system will mark it in-progress until it posts the last available part.

Replies:   Uther_Pendragon
Uther_Pendragon ๐Ÿšซ

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Tried it, and it seems to work great.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Uther_Pendragon

Good :)

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

An addition for those who asked for it.

I added support for relative date tag.

The format is:

{date:+3a} for 8AM release after three days, or {date:+5p} for 8PM release after 5 days.

Example:

Example for a text file:

My first story

by my pen name

[optional cover text]

Chapter 1[: optional chapter title]

chapter 1 text....

Chapter 2: Merry Christmas

{date:+7a}

Chapter 2's text.

etc...

To have two chapters on the same day, you do {date:+0a} or {date:+0p}.

This will make it simple to make one delayed post for a story and not worry how the dates line up.

So to release a chapter per week it's {date:+7a} or {date:+7p}

Jason Samson ๐Ÿšซ
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@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Thank you, will be using!

I haven't played with the optional cover text thing before. If there is the cover text before the first chapter, must there be the title and by line too?

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Jason Samson

for the system, yes. If you don't put them in, we do it while processing the submission.

Vincent Berg ๐Ÿšซ

@Jason Samson

I haven't played with the optional cover text thing before. If there is the cover text before the first chapter, must there be the title and by line too?

It's largely an automated process, as specifying "Chapter XX: The Rain Mainly Falls on the Very Plain" becomes an optional title. It can also be specified (using html submissions) as { t], with a Section title taking the form { h}, using the following as an example:

My Book
I: Visiting the Bronx
1: Saying something stupid
2: Getting Beat up
3: Spending too much
4: Losing all my money playing Penny-ante
II: Leaving the Bronx
...

Thus Section Titles would come before chapter titles, but somehow, I don't think that's what you were asking about.

Vincent Berg ๐Ÿšซ

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

That's a very useful addition, though it's easier specifying +7 for each posting, than trying to figure out whether your biweekly postings are +3 or +4.

Reluctant_Sir ๐Ÿšซ

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Chapter 2: Merry Christmas

{date:+7a}

I could have sworn I posted this already, but can't find it... pardon me if this is a dupe.

I used the first method, worked like a charm. For the next story, since I am not sure when I will start posting, I want to use the day count method.

Just to be sure now, that count is from the last chapter posted or from the initial post date? So if the interval was consistent, chapter three would post seven days AFTER chapter two, you wouldn't use {date:+14a} to get the same result?

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Reluctant_Sir

It's from the pervious chapter. So this:

Story name

Author name

Chapter 1

text

Chapter 2

{date:+3a}

text

Chapter 3

text

Chapter 4

{date:+7a}

text

Chapter 5

{date:+3a}

text. etc...

Chapter 2 AND 3 get posted two days after chapter 1.

chapter 4 gets posted 7 days after 2 and 3.

Chapter 5 gets posted 3 days after 4.

Replies:   Reluctant_Sir
Reluctant_Sir ๐Ÿšซ

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Thanks for clearing that up!

Reluctant_Sir ๐Ÿšซ

Very cool! I love posting a bunch (or all) at once with deferred chapters, so this will make it that much easier.

Replies:   Vincent Berg
Vincent Berg ๐Ÿšซ

@Reluctant_Sir

Very cool! I love posting a bunch (or all) at once with deferred chapters, so this will make it that much easier.

That's true, but without reviewing the chapters as they post, it's almost impossible to remember WTF happens in any given chapter, so posting once and 'forgetting it' is likely to make for some awkward conversations with reader responses. :(

Replies:   Reluctant_Sir
Reluctant_Sir ๐Ÿšซ

@Vincent Berg

So... no different from me than usual? :-)

My last half-dozen (probably) more stories were posted all at once, or in a couple of big batches, with each chapter posted with a delay of a couple of days. I was using the manual setup where you had to load each chapter individually and pick a posting date etc and, frankly, it was a PITA.

I have a couple of large stories coming up as soon as they get past the editors, so this update makes me happy.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

I updated the system and posted a user guide for authors:

https://storiesonline.net/help/Scheduling-and-Automation-Guide-for-WLPC-Story-Delivery-System

Enhancements:

You can now submit additional delayed chapters to an existing story with scheduled chapters.

You can select which chapter's release flips on a switch to allow voting.

You can select whether the last available chapter concludes the story or not.

Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Does this work if you're submitting in HTML format?

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Quasirandom

Does this work if you're submitting in HTML format?

Yes.

Replies:   Quasirandom
Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

A++

Thank you!

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