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MILF?

PotomacBob

MILF? Is it pronounced Em-Eye-Ell-Eff, or Mihlph? Or something else?

Replies:   REP  John Demille
REP

@PotomacBob

Don't know. I use Mill with a hard F ending.

John Demille

@PotomacBob

First time I heard it was in American Pie. MILF is pronounced MILF.

Replies:   Crumbly Writer
Darian Wolfe
Updated:

Im married and usually around my wife so I almost never say it. I just think it as I watch one walk by. Lol.

Wheezer
Updated:

I've always read it as like milk, but with a soft f instead of a soft k.

I'm more intrigued by what defines a MILF. Is it any woman with a child, regardless of her age? Or is it a woman old enough to be YOUR mother, regardless of your age? If the former, then a 14 yr old teen mother could be a MILF, and that just does not seem to fit within the meaning or intent of the acronym.

Darian Wolfe

@Wheezer

In my case, that would make her about 80. So unless she's Sophie Loren or Raquel Welch or Ann Margaret I most certainly hope not lol.

joyR

@Wheezer

I'm more intrigued by what defines a MILF.


The OED defines a MILF as; A sexually attractive older woman, typically one who has children.

Replies:   REP
REP

@joyR

Since the M stands for Mother, OED should delete the word typically.

Of course, Mother is often used in reference to a man, and I don't want to go there. :)

Ernest Bywater

@REP

Since the M stands for Mother,


I was under the impression the M was for Mother-in-law

awnlee jawking

@REP

Mother is often used in reference to a man


'The Avengers' and 'The New Avengers' had a male character codenamed 'Mother' ;)

(No, I don't mean the US graphic-novel protagonists)

AJ

awnlee jawking

@Ernest Bywater

I was under the impression the M was for Mother-in-law


Les Dawson is currently spinning in his grave :)

AJ

Crumbly Writer

@John Demille

First time I heard it was in American Pie. MILF is pronounced MILF.

I concur. At least in America (U.S.A.), it's pronounced "mil" (as in 'military') + "f" (as in 'self').

Crumbly Writer

@Wheezer

I'm more intrigued by what defines a MILF. Is it any woman with a child, regardless of her age? Or is it a woman old enough to be YOUR mother, regardless of your age? If the former, then a 14 yr old teen mother could be a MILF, and that just does not seem to fit within the meaning or intent of the acronym.

I think Darian hit the nail on the head here. It's generally diminutive when seeing an attractive older woman (usually with children in tow (anywhere from 5 to 26, depending on your taste) that you think are 'hot enough to fuck, despite their kids and responsibilities!'

I wouldn't use it for younger tweens (middle school age) or even young teens (13 - 16), no matter their circumstances, but then there are a LOT of pedo fans, who certainly have a different opinion.

But nowadays, with the populations not only living longer, but remaining active longer, the bigger thing are now GMILFs (don't ask how to pronounce it). I've seen many more of these popping up, especially from older women who grew up during or well after the sexual revolution, of who, even when their partnered, frequently are in either open marriages or go to sex clubs where they openly trade partners.

The internet if FULL of these images and motifs, though the term GMILF has yet to catch on. Though, somehow, I doubt anyone on SOL will write about the phenomenon.

Crumbly Writer

@Ernest Bywater

I was under the impression the M was for Mother-in-law

I've never heard the term used in that context!

Switch Blayde

@Crumbly Writer

(usually with children in tow (anywhere from 5 to 26,


5–26 children?

I thought MILF was middle age. At least mid-to-late 30s and 40s.

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Keet

@Crumbly Writer

the bigger thing are now GMILFs

Isn't that supposed to be GILF? Granny I ...

Replies:   joyR
joyR

@Keet

Isn't that supposed to be GILF? Granny I ...


If anyone of you types GGGILF... Please tell me you stutter... Please..!!

Replies:   Keet
Keet

@joyR

If anyone of you types GGGILF... Please tell me you stutter... Please..!!

Careful there. GGG = German Goo Girls. And yes, it's exactly what you think it is reading the words. Very sticky.

Replies:   joyR
joyR

@Keet

Very sticky.


TMI...!!!

Dominions Son

@Crumbly Writer

the bigger thing are now GMILFs (don't ask how to pronounce it). I've seen many more of these popping up, especially from older women who grew up during or well after the sexual


There's a woman my Parents know who became a great grandmother in her mid 50s.

She had 4 daughters, two singles and a pair of twins. I don't remember off the top of my heads if the twins were the oldest or in the middle.

All except the youngest were themselves mothers by the time they graduated high school. Only the youngest managed to graduate and get married before having kids.

The third generation followed in their parent's foot steps. So the matriarch of the family was a grandmother by ~36 and a great grand mother by ~54

Replies:   Jim S  Crumbly Writer
Jim S

@Dominions Son

Nothing like getting an early start...

red61544

No matter how you pronounce it, somewhere there's a HWWLTTYHO - a husband who would like to tear your head off! It's very dangerous messing with MILFs.

Replies:   madnige  Crumbly Writer
madnige

@red61544

somewhere there's a HWWLTTYHO - a husband who would like to tear your head off!


...unless she's widowed, a single mother, divorced or in a same-sex marriage.

doctor_wing_nut

Is it pronounced Em-Eye-Ell-Eff

That's called spelling, not pronouncing.

Replies:   PotomacBob
PotomacBob

@doctor_wing_nut

Better inform the FBI.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son

@PotomacBob

Acronyms are pronounced like a word, initialisms are spelled not pronounced like a word.

MILF is an Acronym (pronounced like milk, except ending in F, not K).

FBI is just an initialism.

Replies:   Michael Loucks
imperatormentus

@Wheezer

I'm more intrigued by what defines a MILF. Is it any woman with a child, regardless of her age? Or is it a woman old enough to be YOUR mother, regardless of your age? If the former, then a 14 yr old teen mother could be a MILF, and that just does not seem to fit within the meaning or intent of the acronym.


The definition I've always used is that a MILF has kids who are old enough to have hit adolescence. Ie, if her kids are old enough that their friends can honestly say "dude, your mom's hot", then she's a milf.

Replies:   Wheezer
Wheezer

@imperatormentus

The definition I've always used is that a MILF has kids who are old enough to have hit adolescence. Ie, if her kids are old enough that their friends can honestly say "dude, your mom's hot", then she's a milf.

Best definition I've heard.

Michael Loucks

@Dominions Son

FBI is just an initialism.


Indeed it is, but it is pronounced 'Fibbie' by some. :-) A DuckDuckGo search returns FBI as the main suggested result. :-)

StarFleet Carl

@Michael Loucks

Indeed it is, but it is pronounced 'Fibbie' by some. :-)


It's also pronounced 'Assholes' by certain non-Federal law enforcement agencies. :)

(Actually, best response to that one I ever heard was, "It's MISTER Asshole to you, deputy.")

Replies:   Dominions Son
Crumbly Writer

@Switch Blayde

I thought MILF was middle age. At least mid-to-late 30s and 40s.

That largely depends upon the age of the observer. For those in their twenties, MILFs are those in their thirties. For those in their sixties, it's those in their fifties. Essentially, it's anyone you lust after who has family obligations (hence they're sexy despite the baggage they'd bring to a relationship).

Replies:   joyR
Crumbly Writer

@Dominions Son

The third generation followed in their parent's foot steps. So the matriarch of the family was a grandmother by ~36 and a great grand mother by ~54

Whoppy Goldberg became a grandmother in her early thirties (both she and her daughter became pregnant at 16).

Crumbly Writer

@red61544

a husband who would like to tear your head off! It's very dangerous messing with MILFs.

Luckily, with GILFs, they can't run very fast and don't have much upper body strength (less 'pulling' strength). The highest rates of STDs are now found in nursing homes. While the rates of those still sexually active are lower, those still capable have little else to do!

joyR

@Crumbly Writer

Essentially, it's anyone you lust after who has family obligations (hence they're sexy despite the baggage they'd bring to a relationship).


No.

At least I think that implies way more that the term actually means.

"Mother I'd Like To Fuck"

We are not into deep relationships here, it is carnal not compassion.

"Obligations..?? Baggage..?? Who cares..?? She's a hot MILF I'd fuck her..!!"

Dominions Son

@Michael Loucks

but it is pronounced 'Fibbie' by some.


Not really, that's more of a nickname, it isn't a viable pronunciation of the official initialism.

Replies:   Michael Loucks
Dominions Son

@StarFleet Carl

It's also pronounced 'Assholes' by certain non-Federal law enforcement agencies.


All law enforcement are assholes. For the FBI, I'm partial to Feeble Bumbling Idiots.

Michael Loucks

@Dominions Son

Not really, that's more of a nickname, it isn't a viable pronunciation of the official initialism.


'Fibbie' is derived from FBI so I think it's not so clear-cut as you say.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking

@Michael Loucks

'Fibbie' is derived from FBI so I think it's not so clear-cut as you say.


My impression, derived from watching US crime dramas and therefore highly suspect, is that 'Fibbie' refers to an individual rather than the organisation employing them.

AJ

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StarFleet Carl

@Crumbly Writer

Whoppy Goldberg became a grandmother in her early thirties (both she and her daughter became pregnant at 16).


Yeah, but IMHO, she is NOT a MILF. More like a MIWFWYD. (Mew fwid)

Replies:   PotomacBob
Darian Wolfe

@Crumbly Writer

We have another name for that that usually applies. We call them "Generational Welfare Recipients".

Replies:   Crumbly Writer
PotomacBob

@StarFleet Carl

Whoppy Goldberg became a grandmother in her early thirties (both she and her daughter became pregnant at 16).

Yeah, but IMHO, she is NOT a MILF. More like a MIWFWYD. (Mew fwid)


For those of us who are ignorant, could you please enlighten us about the meaning of MIWFWYD?

Replies:   joyR
joyR

@PotomacBob

For those of us who are ignorant, could you please enlighten us about the meaning of MIWFWYD?


He means "Mother I Wouldn't Fuck With Your Dick"

karactr

I'll second that. Just "Ewwwwww".

awnlee jawking

@joyR

He means "Mother I Wouldn't Fuck With Your Dick"


Speaking as an average male (a very average male), that acronym is so rare because the only disqualifying factors are 1) the woman has been dead for too long 2) the 'woman' doesn't have any womanly bits (mother by adoption?) 3) some physical barrier to congress (such as rolls of fat obstructing entry).

:(

AJ

StarFleet Carl

@awnlee jawking

such as rolls of fat obstructing entry


Have you been to any buffets lately?

Also, when the woman is a coyote. Which is more than a two bagger.

A one bagger is when you put a bag on her head. A two bagger is when you put a bag on YOUR head in case the bag on HER head falls off. A coyote is when you chew your arm off when you wake up in the morning so you don't wake whatever it is that's sleeping on your now trapped arm.

There are literally some women you can't put a flag over their face and do it for 'Old Glory'.

karactr

@awnlee jawking

such as rolls of fat obstructing entry


Isn't that what flour is for? Attitude is the only attribute I can think of that would prevent me from loving any woman. Even with AJ's dick.

awnlee jawking

@karactr

I remember a TV documentary about disabled people having sex. One subject was an extremely obese woman, who couldn't get out of bed unaided, who complained that she couldn't get a boyfriend because she was unable to have sex.

The experts taught her other positions than missionary, in which her rolls of stomach fat didn't obstruct entry, and her programme segment ended with her having a boyfriend (they didn't show the sex TG). However a follow-up said that the boyfriend had left her and she was alone again.

AJ

Crumbly Writer

@awnlee jawking

My impression, derived from watching US crime dramas and therefore highly suspect, is that 'Fibbie' refers to an individual rather than the organisation employing them.

Fibbie (n) One who fibs, a common trait among FBI officials when talking to officials, or describing the status of their investigation.

Crumbly Writer

@Darian Wolfe

We call them "Generational Welfare Recipients".

Seriously, there are more whites on welfare, receiving the largest amount of welfare dollars, and yet you never refer to ANY white person as a 'Welfare Queen'. Such language is a dog-whistle for whites to start ranting about how blacks are 'destroying' the country.

If you want to decry spending on social programs, then argue about the principals and details, but don't use it as 'code' to denigrate minorities who already have few options in American (or British) life (I have family in both countries, so hear the same stories being repeated both places). Though I don't have any Aboriginal family, so I can't say anything on that front.

Crumbly Writer

@joyR

He means "Mother I Wouldn't Fuck With Your Dick"

Once again, you're using 'trigger words'. Frankly, despite her annoying me on occasion, I'd have no problem bedding Whoppy (or her daughter, for that matter). I'm not intimidated by strong females willing to stand up for themselves.

Replies:   joyR  StarFleet Carl
Crumbly Writer

@awnlee jawking

3) some physical barrier to congress (such as rolls of fat obstructing entry).

Technically, since most who partake in that activity, it's often difficult to determine whether you're 'in' or 'out', so rather than being obstructed, it's like there's loads of folds to fuck!

Note: Please, let's NOT write any stroke stories based on this premise. :(

Crumbly Writer

@karactr

Attitude is the only attribute I can think of that would prevent me from loving any woman. Even with AJ's dick.

Not me, I prefer using a full-sized implement. 'D

Ernest Bywater

@Crumbly Writer

I am not going to get involved on either side of the question of welfare recipients as to which is right and which is wrong in their statements, except to say:

a). There are people disposed to being welfare dependent and not wanting to work in all racial groups as that's a human behaviour and not a racial behaviour.

b). Some state and federal government organizations and some private organizations will encourage people to welfare options based on the person's racial heritage. Sometimes it's just the individuals within the organization and not a deliberate organizational policy.

c). If you want to argue anything about which racial or ethnical group has more people on welfare you need to do so on the basis of the percentage of that group and not the raw figures of the whole population. Having 500 out of 1,000 people (50%) doing something is a more serious issue than having 2,000 out of 8,000 people (25%) doing the same thing.

d). If you want to keep this discussion going based on political matters I suggest you move it off the forum to DM conversations.

Replies:   joyR
joyR

@Crumbly Writer

Once again, you're using 'trigger words'. Frankly, despite her annoying me on occasion, I'd have no problem bedding Whoppy (or her daughter, for that matter). I'm not intimidated by strong females willing to stand up for themselves.


No..!! I'm not using anything..!!

YOU are shooting the messenger, or in this case, translator.

joyR

@Ernest Bywater

Having 500 out of 1,000 people (50%) doing something is a more serious issue than having 2,000 out of 8,000 people (25%) doing the same thing.


So, if that is actually true. Then you personally would rather have to contribute $10 each to 500 people rather than $10 each to 2,000

I think not..!!

Politics is verboten, correctly so. But basic mathematics isn't.

awnlee jawking

@joyR

I agree with you. My brief foray into local government taught me that absolute numbers are the primary concern.

AJ

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son

@joyR

So, if that is actually true. Then you personally would rather have to contribute $10 each to 500 people rather than $10 each to 2,000


But basic mathematics isn't.


Okay, so let's look at some math.

Assume that each recipient gets $100.

At 500 out of 1000 receiving, you have 500 receiving and 500 contributing, 1 for 1, so each contributor has to contribute $100.

At 2000 out of 8000, you have 2000 recipients and 6000 contributors, 3 contributors for every recipient instead of 1 for 1. So each contributor only has to contribute $33.33

Replies:   joyR  richardshagrin
Dominions Son

@awnlee jawking

I agree with you. My brief foray into local government taught me that absolute numbers are the primary concern.


This is true, but it's just one more piece of evidence pointing to the fact that politicians are in general exceedingly irrational.

joyR
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@Dominions Son

As you actually quoted me, one would presume you actually read what I wrote.

So, which part of "Then you personally" confused you..??

ETA

First let's quote the CW;

Having 500 out of 1,000 people (50%) doing something is a more serious issue than having 2,000 out of 8,000 people (25%) doing the same thing.


(My bold)

So, taking that statement, would YOU rather have 500 people hit you with a stick, or have 2,000 people do the same thing..??

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son

@joyR

So, which part of "Then you personally" confused you..??


None, of it. If the total benefits going to the individual recipients isn't the same, it's not a fair comparison.

Replies:   joyR
joyR

@Dominions Son

If the total benefits going to the individual recipients isn't the same, it's not a fair comparison.


In my example I said, "Then you personally would rather have to contribute $10 each to 500 people rather than $10 each to 2,000"

You just replied

"If the total benefits going to the individual recipients isn't the same"

Since in my example the total benefit going to the individual recipient is $10...

Then each recipient IS receiving the same.

Ernest Bywater

DS and joyR,

Back up a little. CW responded to someone else and complained about what appeared to him as being a racist point of view about welfare recipients by saying there were more whites on welfare than any other racial / ethnic group. I replied about the welfare situation in general. I also mentioned that when making divisions based on race or ethnic aspects you need to look at what percentage of the groups are involved and not just the raw numbers as a larger number of a bigger group will often be a smaller representation as a percentage. Nothing in my post was about handing out money to anyone, just about how you decide which situation is worse than the other in a statistical representation of the situation. Thus there's no need to carry on about it.

richardshagrin

@Dominions Son

So each contributor only has to contribute $33.33

My basic Mathematics tells me three times $33.33 is $99.99. Each recipient doesn't get exactly $100. They get a penny less.

Darian Wolfe

@Crumbly Writer

I've known some snow-white Welfare queens who wouldn't work unless it was on her back and the pay was in baggies. Yet, they knew how to get that check and could pop out a kid just in time to keep from having to find a job.

I don't buy the few options bit though. They have the internet which means they can access books and classes to improve themselves for free. I lived in the hood and walked to the library before the internet.

I had to bribe my children to learn to fight the culture of ignorance in the hood we lived in when they were small. Not that all the other families were like that, but many were. You could walk in their places and not find five damn books. How the hell are you going to teach a child to read without books? They couldn't afford them? Fuck that. For the price of a 40 (beer), they could walk to the corner thrift store and get 7 or 8 children's books. I know because that's where we bought some of ours. They're ignorant because they don't value learning. I've seen children in hood schools whose parents valued education get scholarship after scholarship and enter a military academy. I've seen others grow up and get a good trade. The opportunity is there but you have to work it.

Replies:   rustyken  PotomacBob
rustyken

@Darian Wolfe

Well said!!!

PotomacBob

@Darian Wolfe

I've known some snow-white Welfare queens


I don't want to put words in your mouth - but it sounds like your example is of financially poor "snow-white Welfare queens" who have been unfairly taking advantage of the system. Are there any financially rich individuals of any hue or color who have also unfairly taken advantage of the system. Do bail-outs of huge financial institutions qualify?

Replies:   Darian Wolfe
StarFleet Carl

@Crumbly Writer

I'd have no problem bedding Whoppy


It's not an intimidation thing, it's a looks thing. I didn't think she was attractive as Guinan - she's less so now.

Darian Wolfe

@PotomacBob

Oh most any bank and several car manufacturers would qualify I'm sure.

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