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Anne N. Mouse ๐Ÿšซ

Has anyone here heard anything about Lazlo Zalezac? I'm wondering as this is the third week in a row he's missed posting an update on a story he said was finished.

Dinsdale ๐Ÿšซ

@Anne N. Mouse

All I could think of doing was sending him a message asking if he was ok and I did that last week.

When Jay Cantrell suddenly stopped posting A Flawed Diamond a few years ago, it turned out that someone had driven into him from behind while he was walking home. Someone else was turning left and this idiot went onto the footpath rather than wait, without noting that a JC was already there.

Anne N. Mouse ๐Ÿšซ

So far I have zero interaction with Lazlo, though I've messaged him through the site messenger, up to and including putting my personal e-mail addy into the message body... So, I'm stuck hoping that someone else will have info or that he will notice the blog or this and reply there.

Replies:   Darian Wolfe
Darian Wolfe ๐Ÿšซ

@Anne N. Mouse

Laz is fairly nonresponsive to emails and such. I've been here a number of years and have had if memory serves exactly one email exchange with him. He's somewhat of a mystery person.

It used to be a game here to try to figure out what his real-life job was Did he work for No Such Agency or some other government Alphabet soup agency because of the lack of details he shares about his life.

He does disappear from time to time sometimes for kind of long periods of time which leads to speculation was he TDY or out fishing? It's all part of the fun.

Hopefully, he's in fine health and once he's cleaned his sniper rifle and been debriefed he'll post another chapter of Emend. I want some more Cathy Damnit and Benny's pretty cool too.

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Darian Wolfe

Laz is fairly nonresponsive to emails and such.

I've noticed that too. I once sent him details of continuity errors etc in one of his stories but never heard back.

You might get more joy from his editor(s).

AJ

Gauthier ๐Ÿšซ

@Darian Wolfe

I want some more Cathy Damnit and Benny's pretty cool too.

Well after three weeks, I'couldn't resist anymore and purchased the epub from lulu.

JohnBobMead ๐Ÿšซ

@Darian Wolfe

That's odd.

I've had any number of pleasant email exchanges with Lazlo.

Well, maybe I'm the one who's odd, as others have also posted concerning not getting responses during periods where he was clearly here.

Do hope he surfaces eventually.

Ernest Bywater ๐Ÿšซ
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@Darian Wolfe

Laz is fairly nonresponsive to emails and such.

Lazlo often spends a lot of time away from home on contract work. usually he's out of contact while he's away from home as he concentrates on doing the job as quickly as possible. I think there are times he doesn't bother with older emails when he returns from a long contract due to how many pile up while he's away.

edit to add: I've good reason to believe the delay is due to Lazlo being away from home for work on a heavy schedule and the edits of the chapters are piling up. I believe the story has been finished and the first draft is with his editorial team.

Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

If they represented foggy bottom, no such agency, or other alphabet; they would not leave an open hole profile for people to speculate about.

Replies:   Darian Wolfe
Darian Wolfe ๐Ÿšซ

@Remus2

I've known a couple of spooks here and there. It seems so counterintuitive but they would. Think about it this is a great fishing hole we have here. What a great juicy worm to get folks talking. Let the paranoia begin bwahaha

Replies:   Remus2
Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

@Darian Wolfe

Let the paranoia begin bwahaha

Better stock up on the tinfoil.

Replies:   Wheezer
Wheezer ๐Ÿšซ

@Remus2

Better stock up on the tinfoil.

Tinfoil hasn't had any tin in it since the latter part of the 1940s. It's all aluminum/aluminium now and does not work anywhere near as well as the original tinfoil...

Replies:   Michael Loucks  Remus2
Michael Loucks ๐Ÿšซ

@Wheezer

Tinfoil hasn't had any tin in it since the latter part of the 1940s. It's all aluminum/aluminium now and does not work anywhere near as well as the original tinfoil...

Which is why my grandmother started calling it 'silver paper', a term I use to this day!

Replies:   Darian Wolfe  Zom
Darian Wolfe ๐Ÿšซ

@Michael Loucks

It works best if you put 3 turns of copperwire through it.

Replies:   Darian Wolfe
Darian Wolfe ๐Ÿšซ

@Darian Wolfe

Speaking of tinfoil hats, we once had a lady who wore a tinfoil hat running for a local office. I voted for her. I swear I did. I honestly believed she couldn't do any more harm than some of the other people we had.

Zom ๐Ÿšซ
Updated:

@Michael Loucks

silver paper

Don't got no paper in it neither.

Replies:   Michael Loucks
Michael Loucks ๐Ÿšซ

@Zom

Don't got no paper in it neither.

Color, not content! :-)

Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

@Wheezer

Tinfoil hasn't had any tin in it since the latter part of the 1940s. It's all aluminum/aluminium now and does not work anywhere near as well as the original tinfoil...

I've been long aware of that. I've several versions of metallic foils in my shop for various projects (gold, silver, copper, lead, mu-metal, tin, aluminium etc).

Tinfoil hat is what people recognize, and don't particularly care what it's actually made of.

Replies:   Wheezer
Wheezer ๐Ÿšซ

@Remus2

Tinfoil hat is what people recognize, and don't particularly care what it's actually made of

Yes, but it's not going to keep them out of your head unless it's real tinfoil. Aluminum foil is good for wrapping a roast, but worthless for blocking alien rays.

Replies:   Remus2  awnlee jawking
Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

@Wheezer

Yes, but it's not going to keep them out of your head unless it's real tinfoil.

Sooo... You've direct experience with this? You ever woke up on the side of the road with lost time and a sore bum?

Replies:   Wheezer
Wheezer ๐Ÿšซ

@Remus2

You ever woke up on the side of the road with lost time and a sore bum?

What? Hasn't everyone? :P

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Wheezer

Is it any good at blocking the increasing amounts of electrosmog in our homes?

AJ

Replies:   PotomacBob  Remus2
PotomacBob ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

electrosmog

What is electrosmog? Also, a restaurant hereabouts lined the walls and ceiling with aluminum foil (hoping to keep customers from using cell phones); they reported it worked. Some said the aluminum foil created a Faraday Cage and would protect from EMP or CME.

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@PotomacBob

What is electrosmog?

Oxford Dictionaries doesn't list it - quelle surprise.

Here's the Wiktionary definition:
"Noun. electrosmog (uncountable) (informal) the electromagnetic radiation emitted by all the computers, mobile phones etc. in the environment."

I presume it doesn't actually mean 'computers' but 'WiFi transmissions'.

AJ

Replies:   anim8ed
anim8ed ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

I presume it doesn't actually mean 'computers' but 'WiFi transmissions'.

You would presume incorrectly.

The Electromagnetic Radiation crew are referring to the electromagnetic field caused by running electricity through wires. There biggest bugaboo is high voltage transmission lines and an 'increase in cancer rates' for those folks who live near them. Also carrying your cell phone may put an electromagnetic hot spot upon your body.

More extreme folks recommend removing most if not all electrical wiring from your bedroom to reduce the amount of electromagnetic radiation you are exposed to while sleeping.

Personally, The electromagnetic radiation caused by electrons going through the wires is small potatoes compared to all the radio waves, microwaves and such that we are bombarded with on a daily basis from satellite signals, tv and radio transmissions, Doppler radars and on and on and on...

Replies:   awnlee jawking  Grant
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@anim8ed

Personally, The electromagnetic radiation caused by electrons going through the wires is small potatoes compared to all the radio waves, microwaves and such that we are bombarded with on a daily basis from satellite signals, tv and radio transmissions, Doppler radars and on and on and on...

So it's not the WiFi but the computers, but the electromagnetic radiation caused by electrons going through the wires is small potatoes compared to your WiFi.

You may need to rethink that: it seems a tad inconsistent.

AJ

Grant ๐Ÿšซ

@anim8ed

Personally, The electromagnetic radiation caused by electrons going through the wires is small potatoes compared to all the radio waves, microwaves and such that we are bombarded with on a daily basis from satellite signals, tv and radio transmissions, Doppler radars and on and on and on...

Which are almost nothing compared to what we get from the Sun each day...

Uther_Pendragon ๐Ÿšซ

@PotomacBob

Some said the aluminum foil created a Faraday Cage and would protect from EMP or CME.

It should be grounded, IIRC.
On the other hand, I'm no kind of EE.

Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

Is it any good at blocking the increasing amounts of electrosmog in our homes?

It can work, but it's not as efficient as other means. I think it could get you 4db or so reduction in EMF, but not much more.

Ernest Bywater ๐Ÿšซ

The last I heard Lazlo was heading into a heavy work schedule, that was about 2 or 3 weeks back so he might be still involved with his work.

karactr ๐Ÿšซ

Do you people even understand physics? Or do you even cafe?

Replies:   Remus2
Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

@karactr

Do you people even understand physics? Or do you even cafe?

Please enlighten us oh wise one.

Replies:   karactr
karactr ๐Ÿšซ

@Remus2

Oh, I don't either. I was just wondering.

Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ
Updated:

Electrosmog is a non-standard term that gets used to cover several effects. All of which cover one form of emission or another of electromagnetic frequency energies. Wifi, Cell, power sources, etc, all are tossed under that particular bus.

Electromagnetic interference (EMI) is a more correct term, or alternatively Radio frequency interference (RFI).

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/emcon.html#emcon

The link covers much of the base science. However, it doesn't do a lot in explaining the means of measurement.

The ISO Standard 80000-3:2006 defines the following quantities. The decibel (dB) is one-tenth of a bel: 1 dB = 0.1 B. The bel (B) is โ€‹1โ„2 ln(10) nepers: 1 B = โ€‹1โ„2 ln(10) Np. The neper is the change in the level of a field quantity when the field quantity changes by a factor of e, that is 1 Np = ln(e) = 1, thereby relating all of the units as nondimensional natural log of field-quantity ratios, 1 dB = 0.11513โ€ฆ Np = 0.11513โ€ฆ. Finally, the level of a quantity is the logarithm of the ratio of the value of that quantity to a reference value of the same kind of quantity.

Therefore, the bel represents the logarithm of a ratio between two power quantities of 10:1, or the logarithm of a ratio between two field quantities of โˆš10:1.

REF; Letter symbols to be used in electrical technology". International Standard CEI-IEC 27-3. International Electrotechnical Commission. Part 3: Logarithmic quantities and units.

Deci-Bel or dB is the usual measurement in regards to noise/interference levels.

Power level indicators are usually in other terms such as volts and watts.

That should be enough to get the people with an interest doing their own research. Some of my background involves designing and building shield rooms for MRI equipment, electronics enclosures for weld shops, and other similar operations.

While I'm not an electrical engineer, I am a materials and mechanical engineer. I can sing more than a few bars of electrical engineering and along with my wife who is an electrical engineer and electronics engineer, we built a nice side business doing that.

If a potential client uses the term 'electrosmog', we add 10% to our bids. The 10% is pain in the ass compensation for the expected level of ignorance we will have to deal with. Over half of the bids we lose because of that ends up coming back to us to make it right.

On all subjects, people can save themselves a lot of aggravation

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Remus2

Do you believe that electrosensitivity is a bogus illness?

I'm agnostic on this one. Researchers have been unable to prove its existence in controlled tests, but I consider recent studies showing changes to children's brains following prolonged mobile phone usage to be disturbing.

AJ

Replies:   Remus2
Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

Do you believe that electrosensitivity is a bogus illness?

Calling it an illness is likely a misnomer as is the term electrosensitivity.
https://www.who.int/peh-emf/publications/facts/fs296/en/

At this point in time, there is insufficient evidence that 'electrosensitivity' is real, much less that it is an 'illness' imo.

Replies:   StarFleet Carl
StarFleet Carl ๐Ÿšซ

@Remus2

At this point in time, there is insufficient evidence that 'electrosensitivity' is real, much less that it is an 'illness' imo.

Yet, interestingly enough, a result of it was written more than 75 years ago. That same story discussed something that is used now daily in different industries and are named for the that story.

Robert Heinlein, 1942, Waldo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waldo_(short_story)

Just because we can't measure what's going on doesn't mean that something isn't going on. Sun changed glass is an example of that. We know it happens, but it's from a different process than exposing glass to radiation to get it to change color. So we don't know HOW it happens.

Replies:   Remus2
Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

@StarFleet Carl

Yet, interestingly enough, a result of it was written more than 75 years ago. That same story discussed something that is used now daily in different industries and are named for the that story.

Robert Heinlein, 1942, Waldo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waldo_(short_story)

Just because we can't measure what's going on doesn't mean that something isn't going on. Sun changed glass is an example of that. We know it happens, but it's from a different process than exposing glass to radiation to get it to change color. So we don't know HOW it happens.

Lack of measurement/proof doesn't mean anything is there either.

Uther_Pendragon ๐Ÿšซ

It's been a long time since I studied physics, but my memory is that a faraday cage requires grounding.

if you put it around a room, it should get enough random contacts to provide fairly good grounding. Not so for tin hats.

Replies:   Dominions Son  Remus2  Mushroom
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Uther_Pendragon

Not so for tin hats.

No,but tinfoil is a reflector.

Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

@Uther_Pendragon

It's been a long time since I studied physics, but my memory is that a faraday cage requires grounding.

A floating ground works for that as well. Aircraft fly without dragging a cable to the earth, yet they have power. Cars do not drag behind Grounding cables for the same reasons.

There are occasions when an earth ground is unacceptable for a Faraday cage.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-happens-when-lightni/
Again, using an jet passenger plane, all commercial aircraft are on average struck once a year by lightening. No sane person would risk flying commercial, and likely flying period, with those odds if a lightening bolt would bring it down.
Effectively, the aircraft is a flying Faraday cage with a floating ground.

There are some failsafe facilities on the ground that use the same principle. While being earth grounded can work, sometimes the field of current/telluric current saturation are too strong utilize an earth ground.

Replies:   REP
REP ๐Ÿšซ

@Remus2

floating ground

What you need to remember is that 'ground' is basically nothing but a reference point for measuring voltage. Although equipment is typically connected to an Earth ground to prevent a voltage difference between you and the equipment from giving you an electrical shock.

Earth ground is what most people think of when they say ground. Your floating ground can have a difference in voltage between it and Earth ground. One of the more common floating grounds in electronics is called chassis ground.

Electrical and electronic circuits work in aircraft because all you need is a complete circuit. A ground is not needed, although on schematics you will see ground symbols that identify the point to use as a reference for making voltage measurements.

One additional point of interest is that you can have two Earth grounds separated by a significant distance and there will be a small voltage difference between the two grounds.

Replies:   Remus2
Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

@REP

Effectively, the aircraft is a flying Faraday cage with a floating ground.

You must have missed that part. As far as a floating ground goes, five seconds with Google, and a few minutes reading, will verify what I've said.

As for getting voltage between two earth grounds, separate them by half a wavelength or a full wavelength of the telluric current, and you'll get a result.

https://www.britannica.com/science/telluric-current

Replies:   Grant
Grant ๐Ÿšซ
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@Remus2

As for getting voltage between two earth grounds, separate them by half a wavelength or a full wavelength of the telluric current, and you'll get a result.

Earth loops were always a PITA to sort out.

Replies:   garymrssn  REP
garymrssn ๐Ÿšซ

@Grant

Earth loops were always a PITA to sort out.

Literally, if you are using electric blasting caps. :(

REP ๐Ÿšซ

@Grant

People Ingesting Tasty Animals, Portable Instrument for Trace Acquisition, or something else? :)

Replies:   richardshagrin
richardshagrin ๐Ÿšซ

@REP

People Ingesting Tasty Animals, Portable Instrument for Trace Acquisition, or something else? :)

I am reasonably sure PITA is an substitute for "pain in the ass".

Replies:   REP
REP ๐Ÿšซ
Updated:

@richardshagrin

Yeah, that seems to fit. The problem is a single acronym like that has too many possibilities. It is hard to decide what fits if you don't see the trend the person is taking.

Mushroom ๐Ÿšซ

@Uther_Pendragon

It's been a long time since I studied physics, but my memory is that a faraday cage requires grounding.

Actually, there are a great many uses for this technology. Most do not realize that the military was at one time a major purchaser of this technology, and incorporated it into almost everything for decades.

And this was for 3 reasons. The first, was to protect from EMP. The last thing they wanted was for a near nuclear burst to knock out all of their equipment. And the second, was to prevent electronic eavesdropping on their equipment.

Over 30 years ago, I remember when the first TEMPEST (Telecommunications Electronics Materials Protected from Emanating Spurious Transmissions) computers started appearing in office spaces. And boy were those things beasts! The monitor alone must have been around 70 pounds, and the keyboard over 5. Super thick steel cases over everything, and every wire that went outside was super thick and was wound around several magnets to dampen signals. Even the "laptop" must have weighed 40 pounds.

And that continued to everything else. When I first started working on the PATRIOT missile system, I realized something odd. The doors to the electronics bays had these 2 bends on both the door and enclosure, and sealing it was a gasket but it was made of a metal mesh. And it sure did nothing to keep water our, as if we opened them after a heavy rain there was frequently water inside.

I finally got curious and asked the maintenance Chief what it was for. Because one of the things I had noticed in the PM manual is that if the metal gasket was broken or missing the equipment was to be marked as "unserviceable". I made a guess and asked him it it was to make it a Faraday Cage, and he told me it was. He later even showed me the device he had to use to check one after a gasket was replaced. A transmitter he would close behind the door, then a monitor he would wave around it to make sure no signals leaked with the door closed.

Grounding is not needed, but it is preferred when possible. It also depends on what you are trying to keep in or out. For EMP, you want grounded. For EM signals (like inside your microwave), it is not really required.

It is amazing how most people never really wonder why they can watch their food cook inside of one, and not get cooked themselves. But they are not grounded, as of the risk that would entail.

Uther_Pendragon ๐Ÿšซ

@Anne N. Mouse

I'm wondering as this is the third week in a row he's missed posting an update on a story he said was finished.

You can put almost an entire serial in the line to be posted on pre-determined dates. "Almost" because you have to wait until the first chapter has appeared to post the rest.

Tw0Cr0ws ๐Ÿšซ

Electrosmog also makes for profitable scams.
In the early 1990's I worked at a company where the owner's wife had a woman come in with some kind of meter which she took readings with, she then scattered pieces of wire about the thickness of coat hanger wire that were bent in the shape of the Greek letter omega.
Charged $10,000 for that, a rather profitable day's work.

Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ
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I remember the early nineties scares. Many of the folks preyed upon, still insist they are being harmed by it as a result. Never mind the fact they are alive and kicking a quarter century later. They just know it's been harming them.

Those same folks will spend days watching youtube conspiracy videos on the subject, all the while complaining their wifi and cell signals are harming them.

Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

Getting back on topic, I hope all is well with Lazlo.

doctor_wing_nut ๐Ÿšซ

He made a blog post today.

https://storiesonline.net/blogentry/45673

Replies:   zebra69347
zebra69347 ๐Ÿšซ

@doctor_wing_nut

That blog entry was four months ago, 09/12/2018 after several weeks in hospital.

Replies:   sunseeker  anja
sunseeker ๐Ÿšซ
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@zebra69347

you might want to look at the date of the post by doctor_wing_nut... "12/9/2018, 5:34:30 PM"...

same day as the blog post by lazlo,,,

anja ๐Ÿšซ

@zebra69347

The last update of Emend was 20.1.2019 , that's tree month.

anja ๐Ÿšซ

Has anybody heard something from or about Lazlo?

It's been three month. I fear for the worst.

dchap1 ๐Ÿšซ

Has anyone heard from Lazlo? While he has never responded to any of my e-mails it is clear that some of the authors here have spoken to him in the past. I am requesting that anyone he has previously replied to please attempt to contact him. If he does reply, I would greatly appreciate an acknowledgement in this forum that he is OK. Thank you.

Ernest Bywater ๐Ÿšซ

As of a month ago he was having some very time consuming real life events, but still around and on some boards when he could fit in the odd minute or so.

dchap1 ๐Ÿšซ

Thank you very much Ernest! The feedback is greatly appreciated.

Tw0Cr0ws ๐Ÿšซ

Just noticed this in the listing for Emend by Eclipse:

{30 July 2019 Beginning new edit by TeNderLoin. I'm going to post a re-edited chapter every 3rd day. I have the entire story. I'll post the remaining chapters after I do the re-edit.}

Replies:   Dinsdale
Dinsdale ๐Ÿšซ

@Tw0Cr0ws

There is also a blog entry today - also by TeNderLoin - which finishes with the words:

No, I have no new info about Laz. Sorry. I wish I did.

dchap1 ๐Ÿšซ

Hi all, It's been about a year since there's been an update regarding Lazlo's condition. Have any of the authors or editors been in contact with him? If so, with his permission, please let us know how he's doing and if there is anything that our community can do to help him? Thanks.

Replies:   REP  Keet
REP ๐Ÿšซ

@dchap1

Lazlo was in contact with TeNderLoin for a period of time. Since that time, Lazlo stopped responding to TeNderLoin's emails.

Keet ๐Ÿšซ

@dchap1

Added on July 17 on ReaderInfo.net: Lazlo Zalezac

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Keet

Lazlo informed me that he was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer back in November 2018.

The median for survival rate for such a diagnosis is 8 months.

Hope he's one of the lucky ones.

Replies:   Keet
Keet ๐Ÿšซ

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Keet

Lazlo informed me that he was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer back in November 2018.

The median for survival rate for such a diagnosis is 8 months.

Hope he's one of the lucky ones.

I fear the worst since TeNderLoin hasn't heard from him since shortly after that.

Replies:   Dinsdale
Dinsdale ๐Ÿšซ
Updated:

@Keet

As anja pointed out at the end of April 2019, the last chapter of Emend by Eclipse posted by the author himself was on 20 Jan 2019.
I have not seen or heard of any interaction with him since, although hospitals often block SOL.

Giving TeNderLoin his password was a statement in itself.

dchap1 ๐Ÿšซ

Thanks to everyone who responded. I had hoped to make a donation to send him a little chear; let him know he was appreciated and wish him well. It seems rather naive now.

Replies:   REP
REP ๐Ÿšซ

@dchap1

It seems rather naive now.

Not really. If you don't have all the information, it is easy to draw the wrong conclusion.

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