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StaticBat83

I just got my first threat from a reader. The reader didn't like the turn of events in my latest chapter. The reader threatened to harass me and make sure I never write again if I go through with what it "seemed" like one character was going to go through with. What that person didn't know is that I had already planned on not having the person go through with it.

But after that threat I almost want to change things so that she does. I don't know if I should be offended or thrilled that I got my first threat.

sunseeker
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@StaticBat83

Report the user to Lazeez. Writers don't need threats like that. Not liking a story, character, or scenario is ok but to threaten harassment or any threat is not.

I'm not a writer, after 3500 words attempted I have no passion for writing lol.

EDITED - to show Lazeez not Lazlo - my bad doh!

Argon

@StaticBat83

Somebody by the name of Kathy Bates? 😆

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Vlad_Inhaler

@sunseeker

Report the user to Lazlo

How the hell did Lazlo (Zalezac) make it into this thread?

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sunseeker
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@Vlad_Inhaler

lol my bad! I meant Lazeez. Lazeez is the site owner yes?

StaticBat83

@sunseeker

Lazeez


How do I report this to Lazeez?

StaticBat83
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@Argon

It was actually somebody by the name scottm731. They actually told me to Fucking choke on your own cum and die bitch. That was only one thing they said and it was uncalled for.

Ross at Play

@StaticBat83

How do I report this to Lazeez?

'Webmaster' near the top right of your 'Home' page.

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Reluctant_Sir

I have had people threaten to stop reading, to never read another and one hinted at downvoting all my stories if A or B didn't equal C (And most of these were in jest, I believe.)

But I have never been threatened!

Sounds like you are doing something right if people are getting passionate about your characters.

Replies:   Vlad_Inhaler
sunseeker

@Ross at Play

Thanks Ross at Play!

Vlad_Inhaler
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@Reluctant_Sir

Well, I did once tell an author I was going to give his current story a 1 and stop reading it if he killed off the mc's mother. Her name was Cammie.
(It's what he'd done to the mc's mother - off-screen - in a previous story).
;-)

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StaticBat83

@Vlad_Inhaler

Now I'm wondering what story you were reading. But some of the stuff that this reader said in the message was nasty.

StaticBat83

On second thought I've decided to do exactly what this reader didn't want me to do. At least in part.

red61544

@StaticBat83

On second thought I've decided to do exactly what this reader didn't want me to do. At least in part.

So you're going to change your story because of threats? I know - you're changing it to what the reader didn't want; but you're changing it because of him. Report him to Lazeez and write the story as you originally planned.

helmut_meukel

@StaticBat83

On second thought I've decided to do exactly what this reader didn't want me to do.


Interesting reaction. If I want you to go with your story in a direction I would like, all I've to do is threat you to not go there.

HM.

Harold Wilson

@StaticBat83

Work with Lazeez (or Lazlo, if you like!). Create a second version of the story with a subtly different spelling (maybe an extra space in the title?) and have Laz move that users library to point to the alternate version. Then write two stories- the one you want to write, and the one this loser is afraid you'll wrote. Make it a real horrorshow- cuckoldry, mm, slutwife, try to push all the buttons. Then name the cuckoldry after your #1 fan, so he has to keep reading...

Crumbly Writer

@helmut_meukel

Interesting reaction. If I want you to go with your story in a direction I would like, all I've to do is threat you to not go there.

I've had a similar reaction, which I've discussed here before. After I included a character the readers didn't like, the (a couple of them) down voted me with 1-votes, and then wrote to complain, explaining why. Thinking they might reflect a wider complaint, I asked for details, and tried to rephrase the passage while keeping the wording consistent with the rest of the story AND keeping the subplot largely intact.

Rather than discuss it further with me, they started issuing demands. If I didn't write exactly what I dictated, they would punish me by one-bombing every one of my stories.

Since they wouldn't even discuss the issue rationally, and tried to make a non-political subplot political by dictating what I was allowed to say in a story, I doubled down. I not only returned the original writing, but I extended the subplot, having the character return, even more extreme (unhinged) than before.

And the two readers did exactly what they threatened to do. They've downvoted every single one of my stories. The funny thing is, while SOL still allowed me to, I could track when those solitary 1-votes were made to track their reading, and observed that they actively read every chapter of every story I wrote, within a couple of days of posting. So they were clearly fans of my stories.

I got back at them though. When they started 1-bombing my other stories, I told them (via a blog post) that they were being irrational, as they couldn't register further complaints if they couldn't go any lower—and then I introduced the repeat of the same character. Ever since, they always downvote with 3s. If they like a particular chapter, they'd up-vote the one chapter to 5s, and if they disliked it, they'd downvote to their original 1-bombs.

It was entertaining to watch such fanaticism from those who enjoyed my writing SO MUCH they couldn't quit reading. It's both encouraging and depressing, humorous and sad.

Ernest Bywater

@StaticBat83

How do I report this to Lazeez?


If they made the threat through the messaging system you go to the message in the system and in the top right corner is a link 'Report' you click on that and follow the leads it gives. You can do this with any abusive messages through the system. By reporting the message Lazeez can link it straight back to the account involved.

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Ernest Bywater

@StaticBat83

I just got my first threat from a reader. The reader didn't like the turn of events in my latest chapter. The reader threatened to harass me and make sure I never write again if I go through with what it "seemed" like one character was going to go through with. What that person didn't know is that I had already planned on not having the person go through with it.


In the past I've had a lot of comments from readers wanting me to take a story in a certain direction and not another. It's easy for em to handle because I always finish a story before posting it, so I simply tell them the story is complete and I'm not changing it at this late stage.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
docholladay

@StaticBat83

On second thought I've decided to do exactly what this reader didn't want me to do. At least in part.


Don't let one really bad reader cause you to change the story. From the sound of it. That would actually hurt the story not help it.

Replies:   Crumbly Writer
awnlee jawking

@Ernest Bywater

In the past I've had a lot of comments from readers wanting me to take a story in a certain direction and not another.


I tell the reader to write that story themself. Sadly I don't believe I've been very successful at encouraging them to take up the pen :(

AJ

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Safe_Bet

@StaticBat83

The reader threatened to harass me and make sure I never write again if...


Huh? You are going full "drama" because somebody said they were going to do something that can't be done?

Just how do you think they are going to accomplish that? Are they going to have the fictional character "Big Tony" break your virtual fingers or send a hit man to 'off your nickname? LOL

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Ernest Bywater

@awnlee jawking

Sadly I don't believe I've been very successful at encouraging them to take up the pen :(


That's because no one uses a pen now, it's all on the touch screen except us dinosaur types who use keyboards.

awnlee jawking

@Ernest Bywater

no one uses a pen now


You'd be surprised.

At the meetings of my writers' group, it's very rare for people to attempt writing exercises electronically. And several of them prefer to use pen and paper for their main writing, before transcribing the first drafts onto computer.

Like you I'm a dinosaur - I hate using touch screens.

AJ

Ernest Bywater

@awnlee jawking

Like you I'm a dinosaur - I hate using touch screens.


The problem with the touchscreens is the devices using them are usually too small for a decently sized keyboards to be displayed on them, thus you can't use the touch-typing skills on the damn things.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
Crumbly Writer

@docholladay

Don't let one really bad reader cause you to change the story. From the sound of it. That would actually hurt the story not help it.

I can't agree with this more. While I encourage feedback, and take it ALL seriously, I won't violate the story, no matter WHAT they suggest. After all, it's your story to tell, not theirs. If they don't like it, they're free to quit reading whenever they like.

Crumbly Writer

@awnlee jawking

At the meetings of my writers' group, it's very rare for people to attempt writing exercises electronically. And several of them prefer to use pen and paper for their main writing, before transcribing the first drafts onto computer.

I'm guessing it's mainly an older crowd? Like the classic readers of old, who were quick to switch over to typewriters, most authors now work electronically, simply because they can get more work completed much sooner. Transcribing handwritten text involves a LOT more time, introduces many more errors, and requires multiple revisions to restore to it's original form (if anyone even remembers how the original was written).

Handwriting boosts creativity, mainly because it slows one down so they can plot out the next line, and identify issues in the current line, but it also inhibits the flow of creativity that typing rapidly allows. It's beneficial for writing exercises, but problematic to do on a regular basis.

No brother insisted on writing like that. He's never written another book since, despite it's success.

StarFleet Carl

@Crumbly Writer

Handwriting boosts creativity, mainly because it slows one down so they can plot out the next line, and identify issues in the current line, but it also inhibits the flow of creativity that typing rapidly allows. It's beneficial for writing exercises, but problematic to do on a regular basis.


If you're like me ... I learned how to write in cursive in the second grade. And then even practicing my penmanship never helped it improve. Which is why I taught myself how to type in the fourth grade - I honestly have trouble reading my OWN handwriting.

Which was a real bitch in college, with all the notes I had to take for classes.

Rambulator

My cursive pretty bad so I print mostly. I think my problem stems from my brain works fster than my hand,

StaticBat83
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@helmut_meukel

I wrote a chapter in a way the person said they didn't want but I plan on maybe posting it in it's own separate thing. Or not at all. Mostly for fun. If I do post it I could maybe label it Elena the lost chapter and have it be a one chapter kind of thing.

StaticBat83

@Ernest Bywater

I already reported the person. I went to the webmaster button on the home page and gave the name. Lazeez said that the person won't bother me. And to write the story I want to write.

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StaticBat83

@Safe_Bet

You are going full "drama" because somebody said they were going to do something that can't be done?


You think this is me going full "drama"? Not by a long shot. I do sometimes use stuff like this as fuel to give more emotion to some of my characters. If I was going full drama one thing I'd do would be to actually say I'm never going to write again. I'm not going to do that. Writing is too much fun.

StaticBat83

@Ernest Bywater

That's because no one uses a pen now, it's all on the touch screen except us dinosaur types who use keyboards.


I think awnlee jawking was being metaphorical when using the phrase take up the pen.

Ernest Bywater

@StaticBat83

I think awnlee jawking was being metaphorical when using the phrase take up the pen.


I did wonder if he meant for them to do a super-human feat by picking up the state pen! I think the state government and the guards might object to that.

awnlee jawking

@Ernest Bywater

People supposedly write whole novels on mobile phones. A one-time visitor to the writers' group said that's how they were writing theirs.

Ugh! But I guess that's better than not writing at all.

AJ

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awnlee_jawking

@Crumbly Writer

I'm guessing it's mainly an older crowd?


It's pretty mixed. The long-term members tend to be older, but we get a regular turnover of fresh meat from the local college.

AJ

awnlee jawking

@StaticBat83

Lazeez said that the person won't bother me.


Result! And a lesson in what to do to e-mail threats in future.

AJ

awnlee jawking

@StaticBat83

I think awnlee jawking was being metaphorical when using the phrase take up the pen.


Indeed ;)

AJ

Ernest Bywater

@awnlee jawking

People supposedly write whole novels on mobile phones.


I can see it now: Frd sd, "U no it ain't true." - as they type leet stories.

I know someone who uses their smart phone as to take notes while doing field examinations, it has a voice to text app that records it for him while he walks around looking at the building and dictating notes to his phone. Later he cleans it up on his computer.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking

@Ernest Bywater

a voice to text app


That could be useful for authors who can't use a keyboard. Now how can they make a smartphone display braille ;)

AJ

Ernest Bywater

@awnlee jawking

The thing that gets me is the keyboard on my son's smart phone is so small when I tried to use it I hit 4 letter at once unless I use a thin pen to tap the screen, which kid of defeats the purpose of the thing. He has a Bluetooth fold out keyboard he carries for use with his tablet, and his fingers are smaller than mine. Seeing the crap makes me glad I've an old cheap phone that's just a phone.

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madnige

@Ernest Bywater

I hit 4 letter at once unless I use a thin pen to tap the screen, which kid of defeats the purpose of the thing.


Hint or tip: turn your hand over (palm up) and use the end of your fingernail to tap, it's like four built in stylii on your hand.

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Ernest Bywater

@madnige

Hint or tip: turn your hand over (palm up) and use the end of your fingernail to tap, it's like four built in stylii on your hand.


It is the tip of my finger that hits the four letters at once. I don't have long fingernails so I can only use my finger tip which is four times bigger than the tiny squares they use on the touch screen keyboards. If I let my fingernails grow to be longer than the tips of my fingers they catch on things and break off in a way that tears into the growing area of the nail, and that hurts.

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Crumbly Writer

@StaticBat83

I think awnlee jawking was being metaphorical when using the phrase take up the pen.

For most of us, the only time we take up a pen is to stab someone with it. 'D

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Crumbly Writer

@awnlee jawking

That could be useful for authors who can't use a keyboard. Now how can they make a smartphone display braille ;)

There's a device called a Braille Speak, which many social services will provide for blind people, but otherwise are fairly expensive. You type on them (in braille notation (don't ask)) and then read the notes back in raised metal dots, one line at a time. You can even connect them to a braille printer (even more expensive) which will print it out on braille paper.

madnige

@Ernest Bywater

I don't have long fingernails so I can only use my finger tip


I don't have long nails either (I bite them down to well short of the fingertip by 3-4mm), but turning my hand over and tapping with the top of the nail allows me precise control.

StaticBat83

@Crumbly Writer

For most of us, the only time we take up a pen is to stab someone with it. 'D


How villain like of these "most of us" people.

BlacKnight

@Crumbly Writer

For most of us, the only time we take up a pen is to stab someone with it. 'D


When I stab someone, I use a sword.

sejintenej

@StaticBat83

I think awnlee jawking was being metaphorical when using the phrase take up the pen.

It is a pretty standard UK expression.

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Crumbly Writer

@sejintenej

It is a pretty standard UK expression.

It is in the U.S. too. I was just having fun with the idea.

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