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K Pelle / dotB - a slight moan

sejintenej
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Thanks to a reference in the Forum I was directed to The Hand of Dunn and (after going through that) Aftershock (for the umpteenth time).

You imply that some of your stories are too tame for SOL. To hell with that - SOL deserves a wide range of stories and if there is no sex in a story, so what?

You write that that you write in Canadian and imply that you hope we will not be offended. OK so we are well used to US American so what is so wrong with Canadian; it is comprehensible.

I can understand and commiserate that you get spammed but... (I also suffer from it but it's all in grenouille (frog lingo to those who speak English) - ugh!

IMHO the stories you write and which I have read are excellent but what a pity that this is the only way I can express my appreciation and thanks for your having written them.

Ernest Bywater

SoL has 39,820 stories - as best as I can tell they break up as:
No Sex = 4,043
Minimal Sex = 2,168
Some Sex = 8,856
Much Sex = 21,546
Stroke = 3,207

Top 50 by Download has 15 with much sex and 3 stroke stories the bulk are listed as some sex.

Top 50 short stories this year 23 no sex, 11 some sex, the rest minimal sex.

A quick glance at all the higher scoring and higher download stories shows the no sex and minimal sex stories have more in the lists than any other level.

Replies:   Crumbly Writer
Ernest Bywater

Before anyone complains, I checked, and there is no email address on K Pelle's website or here at SoL - thus this may be the only way to make contact - on the contact page it says:

So until I work out a more secure method of contact, please use the 'old' and relatively secure methods, but be sure to include a story title or other clue to content on the subject line of your message. Emails with no subject listed are never read, instead they are automatically registered as spam, shipped to the spam bin, then are deleted on a regular basis! (If all else fails, the old yahoo group still works - most of the time!)

But provides no detail on what the old secure way may be. Thus unless you have contact info from way back when, no contact is possible.

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Wheezer

@Ernest Bywater

So until I work out a more secure method of contact, please use the 'old' and relatively secure methods, but be sure to include a story title or other clue to content on the subject line of your message. Emails with no subject listed are never read, instead they are automatically registered as spam, shipped to the spam bin, then are deleted on a regular basis! (If all else fails, the old yahoo group still works - most of the time!)

But provides no detail on what the old secure way may be. Thus unless you have contact info from way back when, no contact is possible.

.B/K Pelle's Yahoo group is at https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dottb2/info

sejintenej

Wheezer; thanks for that

Crumbly Writer

@Ernest Bywater

SoL has 39,820 stories - as best as I can tell they break up as:
No Sex = 4,043
Minimal Sex = 2,168
Some Sex = 8,856
Much Sex = 21,546
Stroke = 3,207

I suspect, if you broke the stories down by date, you'd discover that your distribution reflects, in part, an older age of SOL. I think you'll find more "no sex" and "some sex" stories more recently, though there's always a steady demand for "stroke" stories.

In short, there's plenty of room for everyone. Good stories are good stories, whether the plots revolve around, or include, sex or not. That said, as we all know, sex sells, and adding sex adds a sense of both realism and romance that many stories would miss otherwise.

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madnige

@Ernest Bywater

You could also try dotB's contact details on BtFH, PM and email both seem to be available.

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Ernest Bywater

@madnige

You could also try dotB's contact details on BtFH, PM and email both seem to be available.


Been so long since I've been to BtFH I don't have the log on ID or password info in memory and the computer it's stored on is still with the Gestapo.

Several years ago I uploaded a story at BtFH that fit the site, but it got refused with a note GMW didn't like my style of writing and I had to make major changes to how it was written before she'd upload it. I've not been back since.

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Crumbly Writer

@Ernest Bywater

Several years ago I uploaded a story at BtFH that fit the site, but it got refused with a note GMW didn't like my style of writing and I had to make major changes to how it was written before she'd upload it. I've not been back since.

Gina can be a real stickler. Don't dare mention anything political, as if you don't conform to her particular form of conservatism, she'll run you off the site!

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graybyrd

@Crumbly Writer

If you mean something like the occurrence of the Flint, Michigan drinking water system disaster was in reality, a Leftist Liberal plot to dishonorably besmirch the reputation and dedication to public service of the GOP Governor of Michigan and his staff... you're right.

richardshagrin

Lets not let politics get in the way of enjoying good stories by a very good author. I visit her site every Sunday after 6pm to read her latest posting. I also look at the forums, sometimes there is interesting information there. Any politics tends to be on the Off Topic Forum. You don't have to look at that if it offends. Currently she is revising Spitfire and Messerschmitt. Please agree not to call it S&M. The hero is named Davey and he plays Baseball. Lets not use the initials of Baseball Davey, Spitfire and Messerschmitt. I want to keep being able to log on her site.

Crumbly Writer

@richardshagrin

The hero is named Davey and he plays Baseball. Lets not use the initials of Baseball Davey, Spitfire and Messerschmitt. I want to keep being able to log on her site.

"Baseball Davey" is a bit of a stretch just to make a humorous point. Besides, "Spitfire & Messerschmitt" (I always prefer the ampersand in the title) is a terrific name for a story, it's so descriptive even without knowing anything about the story, so why muck it up?

Vlad_Inhaler

@richardshagrin

Lets not let politics get in the way of enjoying good stories by a very good author.

That works the other way with me. It got to the point where I would stop reading a story when she started vilifying the French or - even more - the Iranians. Most of them did and I pretty much gave up on her right then.
That is also a strike against S&M, the evil terrorists are Iranian exiles.

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docholladay

Heck readers need to do what I do or something similar. At present I have 3 sites bookmarked for DotB. I don't constantly check them, but I do keep an eye on them.

richardshagrin

@Vlad_Inhaler

For most stories (except some SF involving space travel to other civilizations) villains need to come from somewhere or have some background. I don't have any problem picking on the French, they don't like us much, anyway. Maybe we should suggest a universally detested nationality to be the source of all villainy in the future. Perhaps North Korea? The Nazi WW2 image is obsolete in my opinion. Microsoft is a relatively frequently disliked source of software. Should the universal villain be named Gates?

Ernest Bywater

@richardshagrin

Should the universal villain be named Gates?


How about 'Congress?'

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Dominions Son

@Ernest Bywater

How about 'Congress?'


If you gathered 535 porn stars in one place, would that be Sexual Congress?

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sharkjcw

@Dominions Son

Need to ask Aroslav, He is the one at the Exxxotica expo this weekend. Maybe he can conduct a poll and tell us.

Replies:   Crumbly Writer
Ernest Bywater
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@Dominions Son


If you gathered 535 porn stars in one place, would that be Sexual Congress?


wouldn't that depend on their genders and proclivity.

However, 144 mi
9xed bi-sexual porn stars in one place would result in a gross fucking.

typo edit.

awnlee jawking

@richardshagrin

I don't have any problem picking on the French


The French have threatened to disrupt UK airspace in response to Brexit. When Theresa May suggested collaboration on security information might be one of the UK's bargaining chips, the French threw a hissy fit.

I welcome the portrayal of the French as villains - they thoroughly deserve it.

AJ

Ross at Play

@awnlee jawking

Theresa May suggested collaboration on security information might be one of the UK's bargaining chips

SURELY NOT?
Think about its implications.
Can you think of any statement by any British PM that comes even close to being that irresponsible?

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awnlee jawking

@Ross at Play

With our 'special relationship' and intelligence-sharing with the US, and GCHQ, the UK punches well above its weight in the amount of anti-terrorist information it shares with the rest of the EU.

If the EU tries to fight dirty in other fields, why shouldn't the UK use all its bargaining chips in response?

The number of people who feel the UK should negotiate with one or both hands tied behind its back is scary. For example, a lot of 'luvvies' complain that the UK should unilaterally guarantee the rights of EU citizens currently in the UK, whereas the EU's position is that the rights of UK citizens currently in the EU is not guaranteed and up for negotiation.

In an ideal world, the UK would continue to share security information with the EU. And the French wouldn't threaten to disrupt the UK's airspace.

AJ

Ross at Play

@awnlee jawking

why shouldn't the UK use all its bargaining chips in response?

Its citizens will die.

But I would grant you any French threat to disrupt the UK's airspace ranks right up there with your PM's comment in the Politicians' Hall of Shame.

StarFleet Carl

@awnlee jawking

I welcome the portrayal of the French as villains - they thoroughly deserve it.


I believe John Ringo has said it best in many of his works. French soldiers are very good. French leaders are the absolute worst. If you think the situation is completely FUBAR and it possibly can't get worse - leave it to the French. They'll manage to do so.

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awnlee jawking

@Ross at Play

Its citizens will die.


Unlikely. Most of the intelligence comes from us, so we wouldn't miss out.

AJ

sejintenej

@awnlee jawking

The French have threatened to disrupt UK airspace in response to Brexit. When Theresa May suggested collaboration on security information might be one of the UK's bargaining chips, the French threw a hissy fit.
I welcome the portrayal of the French as villains - they thoroughly deserve it.

You must distinguish between their parliamentarians (and many Parisiens) and those from outside the Ile de France.

Many of those I know in the south abhor the EU and would get out if they could; there has been just ONE anti "rosbif" graffiti compared to thousands against the authorities in Paris; the Brits are at least liked and those I have spoken to want the present residents to stay.

My big problem is with a big international near monopoly in MI who demand that anyone dealing with them uses a card controlled by USA media - MasterCard , Amex etc. If, like me, you hold a card of a different system such as the French Carte Blue, then effectively you get fined - in my case 2% of the contract amount plus about $10. The big R comes to mind

Switch Blayde

@awnlee jawking

a lot of 'luvvies' complain that the UK should unilaterally guarantee the rights of EU citizens currently in the UK, whereas the EU's position is that the rights of UK citizens currently in the EU is not guaranteed and up for negotiation.


Same between Mexico and the U.S. Everyone thinks Americans are black-hearted and racists because they want to have a say as to who is in our country (like EVERY other country in the world). Mexico expects the U.S. to welcome people coming here illegally, but they wouldn't tolerate a U.S. citizen illegally living in their country. The only reason it's not a big deal for them is because they don't see hordes of Americans flocking to their country illegally.

EzzyB

@Crumbly Writer

There was, a few years ago, an effort by Lazeez to curb or eliminate pedophilia.

I'm not completely on board with the 14-year-old rule. I argued for the medical definition of pedo (adult/pre-adolescent). Hell I still have a story I can't post, and then there is Anita... Having that character wait until she is 14 is beyond me.

My point, (other than still trying to get my way there) is that once the pedo was cleared out, it most likely took away that crowd and those authors. That would result in an average lower sex content.

I mean a story about pedophilia without sex isn't. (Yeah, think a second)

Switch Blayde

@EzzyB

I mean a story about pedophilia without sex isn't. (Yeah, think a second)


Lolita

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awnlee jawking

@Switch Blayde

Doesn't Humbert Humbert have sex with Lolita?

AJ

Bondi Beach

@richardshagrin

Lets not use the initials of Baseball Davey, Spitfire and Messerschmitt.


You're on her hit list for sure after disclosing the secret plot.

bb

StarFleet Carl

@Switch Blayde

Everyone thinks Americans are black-hearted and racists because they want to have a say as to who is in our country (like EVERY other country in the world)


Have you noticed the news stories cropping up about illegal aliens now crossing the border into Canada, and the number of complaints that are now coming up because of it?

Oh, and those stories are from papers in England ... since that's pretty much the only place to get unbiased news about the Americas anymore.

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Switch Blayde

@StarFleet Carl

Oh, and those stories are from papers in England


You don't hear that here. Interesting.

Replies:   Crumbly Writer
StarFleet Carl

You don't hear that here. Interesting.


I just spent the last seven weeks sitting on my butt recovering from surgery. While I regularly read news aggregators, I also go to an assortment of newspapers from both U.S. political slants as well as foreign ones, just to try to be an informed citizen. I may have overdone it a bit recently is all.

Crumbly Writer

@sharkjcw

Need to ask Aroslav, He is the one at the Exxxotica expo this weekend. Maybe he can conduct a poll and tell us.

Damn! That sounds like the making of a great SOL story. Talk about doing your research!

Crumbly Writer

@awnlee jawking

I welcome the portrayal of the French as villains - they thoroughly deserve it.

Brexit Fries, anyone?

Crumbly Writer

@Ross at Play

Its citizens will die.

But I would grant you any French threat to disrupt the UK's airspace ranks right up there with your PM's comment in the Politicians' Hall of Shame.

No, in the first, it's citizens will die. In the second, it's an act of war! Both are completely irresponsible and dunder-headed.

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Crumbly Writer

@Switch Blayde

Mexico expects the U.S. to welcome people coming here illegally, but they wouldn't tolerate a U.S. citizen illegally living in their country. The only reason it's not a big deal for them is because they don't see hordes of Americans flocking to their country illegally.

Not true, in virtually every instance, they agree that we have every right to control our boarders (since they've been utterly unable to control theirs), and most of their illegal immigrants are heading for the U.S., not helping their economy. However, one of the biggest factors in their economy are illegal U.S. immigrants who send money back home, so now they don't want to piss that sizable contingent off.

Crumbly Writer

@EzzyB

There was, a few years ago, an effort by Lazeez to curb or eliminate pedophilia.

Sorry, but the choice was never Lazeez's. Instead, the Canadian Parliament passed a restrictive law (similar to Australia's from the same time) restricting publishing/posting 'pedophilia stories' (despite all evidence that such stories reduce the incident of pedophilia, as it allows those afflicted with it a legal, safe and moral alternative). In fact, he undertook a major risk, lowering the limit he's allow to 14 (instead of 16, as the law stipulates).

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Crumbly Writer

@Switch Blayde

You don't hear that here. Interesting.

I've heard them, but I seriously doubt whether the number of complaints or violations is anywhere near what we face. Also, Britain reports those stories because their primary reason for Brexit are all the non-European foreign nationals entering their country.

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Ross at Play

@Crumbly Writer

No, in the first, it's citizens will die.

No, that would mean, 'It is citizens will die.'

Ross at Play

@Crumbly Writer

In fact, he undertook a major risk, lowering the limit he's allow to 14 (instead of 16, as the law stipulates).

AND, in appreciation of that risk, we should all be vigilant and whenever we come across something that may not adhere to the guidelines he has set, we should report our doubts to him immediately.
Ultimately, he is the final arbiter for all such decisions on this site, and we protect ourselves by doing our best to protect him.

awnlee jawking

@Crumbly Writer

Britain reports those stories because their primary reason for Brexit are all the non-European foreign nationals entering their country.


Scrub the 'non-European'. The last General Election and the referendum were largely decided on the issue of immigration. The country is overpopulated, our infrastructure can't cope and we're concreting over the countryside for housing. We don't want to be the EU's equivalent of Hong Kong.

I visited my town centre this morning. English is now a minority language.

AJ

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sejintenej

@awnlee jawking

I visited my town centre this morning. English is now a minority language.

There are quite a few ghettoes like that.

A big shopping mall called Lakeside (I think well known in the UK); a mobile phone (cell) shop had a poster in its window calling for staff applications - I know it was that because all applications to a web site address with the ending /recruitment.
I couldn't read the rest because everything else was in Polish.

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sejintenej

@awnlee jawking


I visited my town centre this morning. English is now a minority language.

Big Dentressangle (?sp but it is a major French haulier) lorry with French plates at Greenwich outside London. The driver wanted to know how to get to a place 5 miles away so I told him in French and showing a street map.
He couldn't speak English but I did ask in French what the name of the départment (county or state) the 40 on the French number plate was. The man couldn't even speak French either - he was a Pole!

sejintenej

Having castigated foreigners in England, a few positive stories:
local coffee shop I got talking to the Barista who had a slight accent but spoke absolutely perfect English - turned out she was from Lithuania.
Same chain, different coffee shop and, in the middle of thinking about something else, I said Tack så mycket (thank you very much)and got immediately called up by the barista from some country who understood that strange foreign (to her) language.
I HATE / am jealous of people who speak other languages

You can't say anything any more here within being understood! I'll bet she was C.I.A.

EzzyB

@Crumbly Writer

Sorry, but the choice was never Lazeez's


Oh no, we debated it at length. Hell I even remember going to the Canadian Government website and reading about it. It wasn't a law, but a court decision. It wasn't pedo at all, but any underage sex. In any event if Laz had been afraid of it he would have Literoticized the whole site. (My verb for forcing authors that modify their stories to pretend the characters they are talking about are 18). Heck even the fact that, at the time, the servers were in the US (VA I think) came into the discussion.

Someone named God of Porn was posting several short pedo pieces a day for a while there and simply flooding the site with really useless stuff. Well I assume, I couldn't bring myself to read any of it.

I'm pretty sure it was more for the health of SOL and trying to keep it as an erotica site and not getting a reputation as a pedo site.

Ezzy

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graybyrd

@EzzyB

Very good recollection; thank you for that.

"God of Porn" ... yeh, remember that one. "God" as in, "God that's worse than awful!"

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sharkjcw

@graybyrd

God of porn was one of Rache's names

Vlad_Inhaler

Then GoP and Rache (or Rachel Ross) would attack each other in the Blog section. I did not know that they were the same person and found it all rather annoying.

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awnlee jawking

@sejintenej

There are quite a few ghettoes like that.


A ghetto implies monoculture. On the contrary, there was a multitude of languages being spoken from Eastern European, the Middle East and the Indian Subcontinent.

AJ

richardshagrin

@StarFleet Carl

If you think the situation is completely FUBAR and it possibly can't get worse - leave it to the French.

The French are going to adopt the kilt as combat uniform, so they can shit and run at the same time.

Vlad_Inhaler

All this about the French seems to be about their behaviour during WW2. What people forget is that their army had suffered something like 55% casualties during WW1 and that the new generation knew that the peace treaty French politicians had played a large role in imposing had played a major role in the rise of the Nazis.
20 years after the end of WW1 and it was deja vu all over again. Every village or town had its share of crippled men left over from the previous conflict.
I imagine things were similar in the US in the late 1880s but there was no larger enemy in the wings there.

StarFleet Carl

@Vlad_Inhaler

No, actually it goes back in time well before that. Keep in mind that France has a long and glorious history of empire building and being in the middle of wars, dating back to the begining of recorded western history. (The Gauls have been a fighting bunch.)

Just prior to WWI, they had the Franco-Prussian war in the early 1870's, the Franco-Austrian War in 1859, which covers the time frame of the ACW. The big difference is that the ACW was not the US against someone else, it was literally brother against brother.

Also, the US was not the big fish in the pond then that we are now. We truly did not know if we'd be victorious against the Spanish. They were a larger enemy to us at the time.

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Switch Blayde

@Vlad_Inhaler

All this about the French seems to be about their behaviour during WW2.


Many, many years ago I had a cartoon of airplanes from different countries. I wish I still had it. It was hilarious.

The front of the Russian plane was bent downward because the plans got folded and no one was willing to tell their superiors afraid they'd be executed.

The Italian plane had two cockpits rather than a cockpit and a tail so they could change sides in the middle of the war (WW2).

Every country was funny.

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Ernest Bywater

@Switch Blayde

Every country was funny.


Did the Aussie one have a big crank handle to help re-wind the giant rubber band used to power the propeller?

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REP

@Ernest Bywater

a big crank handle to help re-wind the giant rubber band


If it did, hopefully it was in the tail section so it could be rewound while inflight. :)

awnlee jawking

@StarFleet Carl

And contrary to British jingoism, Napoleon beat Wellington at Waterloo. But he was undone by the untimely intervention of Blucher.

But the French record has been poor since WWII. While they might support UN and NATO actions, they supply a minimal quantity of troops etc and quickly withdraw them at the slightest excuse. Hence Bush's term of endearment ;)

AJ

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Wheezer

Old joke from back in the pre-1968 days when you could buy military surplus rifles mail-order:

"Italian army rifles for sale - $21.98 ea.
Excellent condition. Only dropped once."

ezrick

@Vlad_Inhaler

Then GoP and Rache (or Rachel Ross) would attack each other in the Blog section. I did not know that they were the same person and found it all rather annoying.


I certainly thought so as well in the beginning, but it was proven not to be.

sejintenej
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@awnlee jawking


But the French record has been poor since WWII. While they might support UN and NATO actions, they supply a minimal quantity of troops etc and quickly withdraw them at the slightest excuse. Hence Bush's term of endearment ;)


Except when they commit foreigners in Indochina.

As for quickly withdrawing, Germany had to quickly withdraw their troops halfway through joint exercises in Norway last summer because they had exceeded their legal quota of hours work and they ran out of money and equipment/ammo

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