This one always annoys me, "heated up". It's like "sit down", like there's any other direction to sit. You could "sit up", but only if you were previously laying down, so it's essentially a misnomer. As no one would ever say "heated down".
When writing, get your directionality down, as it's hardly an impossible burden telling up from down or sitting from lying. But then there's always "lie down", isn't that redundant, unless you're in a space capsule perhaps. ;)
You could "sit up", but only if you were previously laying down
Why the necessity for deploying feathers?
AJ
It's like "sit down", like there's any other direction to sit.
I just happened to write "Juno stood up." She was sitting on a bench. No way am I going to remove the "up." It puts emphasis on her standing which is the way I want her action to be read.
I have no problem with "up" and "down" being used when it fits the action better.
I'll admit, some instances just come off worse than others, and it's like my 'nit' over the Oxford Comma. I don't need the comma, since I can tell when a comma is needed and when it doesn't. So that's more of a reader/author preference than it is anything else.
Yet again, strangely, it's usually European SOL authors but complain about it the most, rather than the Americans who were the only ones who 'adopted' it as a literary/grammatical standard.
But it's just another reason WHY I hate discussion groups, as nearly anytime I post here, someone takes exception to anything I say, even if it's just a general point rather than a specific one.
So, as always, it's usually better when I just shut up and go away, as the Authors discussion group where everyone tends to jump down each other's throats.
But it's just another reason WHY I hate discussion groups, as nearly anytime I post here, someone takes exception to anything I say, even if it's just a general point rather than a specific one.
It's a discussion group, so of course there will be people who put forth an opposing view. But that does not mean they are opposing you.
You can stand up, stand down, stand around, stand about, stand in, stand out, stand for, stand with, stand against, stand to, stand by...
Yes, I'm more than familiar with the fact that you always attack whatever I post. As I said, it's a 'yet another nit'.
But you'll note, the question here was over using "heated up", so yes, I have raised similar issues before, as "sit down" and "jump up" ARE the most frequent types of those issues. So, I'm not allowed to use the same argument in ANY other post I make/respond to. Or, again, do you just inherently disagree with EVERYTHING I ever utter.
Screw it. I'm tired of the abuse. It just ain't worth the trouble expressing my opinion on ANY topic!
You could "sit up", but only if you were previously laying down, so it's essentially a misnomer.
Sit up can be used for those who are not propperly sitting in a chair.
As no one would ever say "heated down".
Of course not. If you are lowering the temperature, it would be "cooled down."
Whenever we get a tropical storm or hurricane approaching, the weather wonks always like to warn us to "hunker down". I've never tried to hunker up, but it might be fun.
I've never tried to hunker up, but it might be fun.
But you do get both 'Buckle down' and 'Buckle up'...
But you do get both 'Buckle down' and 'Buckle up'...
And "put up" and "put down" and "shut up" and "shut down," not that the pairs mean the same thing.
"shut up" and "shut down," not that the pairs mean the same thing.
Semantics, granted, but if you 'shut-down' someone or tell them to 'shut-up' you are, in effect, doing the same thing, telling them to be quiet.
you are, in effect, doing the same thing, telling them to be quiet.
I was thinking more "shut down the business for the winter."
I was thinking more "shut down the business for the winter."
Ahhh, and I was thinking more "To shut down someone in a conversation/argument" Though that turn of phrase could be regional?
It's like "sit down", like there's any other direction to sit.
Off the top of my head, you can sit up, or sit in, or sit out, or sit around, or sit among.
Honestly this statement seems like it betrays a lack of your imagination as a writer as opposed to a flaw of the english language.
Honestly this statement seems like it betrays a lack of your imagination as a writer as opposed to a flaw of the english language.
A perfect analysis of the situation.
This one always annoys me, "heated up".
I disagree. A discussion can be 'heated', but 'heated up' food comes out of the microwave. That may be flawed or illogical, but it's common usage. For authenticity I try to follow common usage, at least in dialogue.
This one always annoys me, "heated up".
I found this interesting article on answering the question: "Q: How did 'heat up' replace 'heat' in referring to heating food?" at https://grammarphobia.com/blog/2019/05/heat-up.html
A: "Heat up" hasn't replaced "heat" in the kitchen, but the use of the phrasal verb in this sense has apparently increased in popularity in recent years while the use of the simple verb has decreased.
However, we haven't found any standard dictionary or usage guide that considers "heat up" any less standard than "heat" in the cooking sense.
You seem to think that "heat up" is redundant. We disagree.
As you probably know, "up" is an adverb as well as a preposition. In the phrasal verb "heat up," it's an adverb that reinforces the meaning of the verb. (A phrasal verb consists of a verb plus one or more linguistic elements, usually an adverb or a preposition.)
The OED, an etymological dictionary based on historical evidence, doesn't mention "heat up" in that sense, but it cites "eat up," "swallow up," "boil up," "beat up," "dry up," "finish up," "heal up," and many other phrasal verbs in which "up" is used to express bringing something to fruition, especially for emphasis.
That's not the entire answer. I simply copied some paragraphs here.
I can't imagine anyone saying 'The climate is heating' rather than 'The climate is heating up'. Other than CW, of course.
AJ
"Crumbly Ronald Olaf Writer, it's like a greenhouse in here. Turn the heating down!"
AJ
Storiesonline forum be like...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMUDVMiITOU&list=RDHMUDVMiITOU&start_radio=1
Years ago, at the very beginning of the written word, I was taught that those added words were aspect markers, used to emphasize the verb. There are two types of aspect markers - lexical and (I'm 81 years old) damned if I forget the name of the other. If I gave a damn, I'd look it up; but I don't, so you'll have to do it yourself.
but only if you were previously laying down,
Meaning putting the down down, I suppose. Or perhaps fucking the down.
but can you fuck down?
Yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mating_press
Mating press is a sex position that usually consists of one participant performing downwards sexual penetration into the receiving partner, often holding their legs down or around the head. It is often seen as a more aggressive version of the missionary position, pushing the legs even further, and often associated with aspects of dominance and submission. While the act has been practiced in many countries, it is most often associated with Japanese sex culture, where the term was created, and the act was popularized.[1]
326 SOL stories contain fuck down. ;-)
Using "exact match" and unchecking those two checks, I got 389 files. But is a file a story or a chapter? So if two chapters in the same story have "fuck down" would it be 2 even though only one story?
One instance I noticed was "calm the fuck down."
One instance I noticed was "calm the fuck down."
In other words the down used for fucking was upset and before proceeding one needed to do whatever was necessary to calm the down.
~ JBB