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Author's Gender?

Kim 🚫
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I am a MALE but sometimes I write in as a female author. I'm sure this a common practice as its chalenging and simulating!

I recieve more comments and feedbak as a female writer? I dont why?
Anybody got a response?

Replies:   TheDarkKnight  Pixy  Kim  REP  The Outsider
TheDarkKnight 🚫

@Kim

Because 95% of the readers here are guys, and many of them dream of being able to contact, even remotely, a woman, especially one who has a naughty side. I also have an alternate, female ID, and I find it fun and challenging to write stories from "her' pov. I don't get much feedback in that mode, mostly because "she" has posted a lot fewer stories.

Replies:   Kim
Kim 🚫

@TheDarkKnight

Thanks for that supprising info bro!

Pixy 🚫

@Kim

What about if you are a female trying to write as/like a male, who is writing as a female, because males are more subconsciously accepting of a male than a female?

Replies:   Kim  Crumbly Writer  akarge
Kim 🚫

@Pixy

Thanks for that - Im in a spin now!

Crumbly Writer 🚫

@Pixy

Then female characters who behave like sluts are more likely to get those inquires than those which feature more 'realistic' female characters. We all want forbidden adventures and not just more of the same in a slightly different dress. ;) Fantasies are fantasies and reality just ain't nearly as … fantastic.

akarge 🚫

@Pixy

That reminded me of "Victor, Victoria. "

Kim 🚫

@Kim

Thanks for that - I like it!

REP 🚫

@Kim

I'm not sure why.

Females have a female point of view and males have a male point of view. Calling yourself a female doesn't make you a female.

Switch Blayde 🚫

@REP

Calling yourself a female doesn't make you a female.

Everyone, after you read that, don't turn this into political shit.

Replies:   Pixy  Pete Fox
Pixy 🚫

@Switch Blayde

Everyone, after you read that, don't turn this into political shit.

That is quite the ask! But I have to agree with REP on that. A woman should be a term for - how did JK Rowling put it? -someone born with a uterus.

Personally, I'm undecided whether 'gender dysphoria' should be treated as a mental illness rather than a physiological one. There is a lot going on and it's a complex medical issue best left to doctors.

Pete Fox 🚫

@Switch Blayde

I'll agree with Blade this is a weird question. You can be a male author and still use female pov... yes it's a challenge to figure our how much crazy to put on paper for a female character. πŸ˜…

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking 🚫

@Pete Fox

You can be a male author and still use female pov

You can also be a female character and use male pov. But in my experience, it's usually easy to tell the sex of the author of a novel.

AJ

Bondi Beach 🚫
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@awnlee jawking

But in my experience, it's usually easy to tell the sex of the author of a novel.

Talking to the Dead by Harry Bingham might give you a challenge. AFAIK Bingham is male, but his cop protagonist, Fiona Griffiths, is female. Very credibly so, I think.

~ JBB

ETA: She's also quite strange, although not in the way PF above described, which might have helped.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking 🚫

@Bondi Beach

Talking to the Dead by Harry Bingham might give you a challenge.

harrybingham.com .com has a photo of a man and mentions a wife. I'll go out on a limb here and say, without even reading the book, that I think you're right, Harry Bingham is a man ;-)

The book description sounds as if it might be worth reading. I might try the local remainders shop or the library.

AJ

Replies:   Bondi Beach
Bondi Beach 🚫
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@awnlee jawking

It's an excellent story, I recommend it. He has a series with that detective.
~ JBB

awnlee jawking 🚫

@awnlee jawking

I know I've mentioned it before, but I took a quiz (on a newspaper website?) where paragraphs were given from 30 different authors, and participants had to guess the sex of the author.

I scored 28/30, or so I thought. Then I later found out that a novel 'written' by a female celeb had actually been ghostwritten by a man, so 29/30. I suspect the one I got 'wrong' may have been ghostwritten too.

Being able to spot the tells, I try to write in a gender-neutral sort of way. But you can always tell from my sex scenes :-(

AJ

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son 🚫
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@awnlee jawking

I know I've mentioned it before, but I took a quiz (on a newspaper website?) where paragraphs were given from 30 different authors, and participants had to guess the sex of the author.

I scored 28/30, or so I thought. Then I later found out that a novel 'written' by a female celeb had actually been ghostwritten by a man, so 29/30. I suspect the one I got 'wrong' may have been ghostwritten too.

Hmm, I know of at least one commercially published "author" where the pen name is actually a husband/wife team that writes together.

I wonder how they would come out on the guess the author gender thing.

awnlee jawking 🚫

@Dominions Son

Good question. Luckily for me there wasn't such an example in the quiz.

In the instances I know of, the husband/wife tend to write alternate chapters. Presumably they try to integrate their writing styles as seamlessly as possible. That would make things very tricky.

AJ

Crumbly Writer 🚫

@Dominions Son

Often, in those circumstances, once you notice the dialogues are often written differently (by each author), so it's fairly obvious once you do. Though men and women do often use altogether different words for the same activities. Yet we're so focused on our own perceptions, we simply don't notice when something doesn't conform to our expectations (ex: more delicate rather than more explicit language.)

So asking another writer to handle the other sex makes a LOT of sense..

helmut_meukel 🚫

@awnlee jawking

But in my experience, it's usually easy to tell the sex of the author of a novel.

I set 'novel' in the quote above in bold, maybe the length of the story makes a difference in guessing the gender of the author.

Back in the heydays of the SF and Fantasy pulp magazines – in the '40s and '50s – most of the published stories were short stories interspersed with a few serialized novellas.
Both publishers and readers were convinced women couldn't write hard Science Fiction.
The female writers back then used male pen names or pen names with abbreviated first name like C. L. Moore. (Moore stated she did it not to hide her gender, but to avoid her employers finding out she worked as a writer on the side).
But she wrote a series with a male MC (Northwest Smith) and another series with a female MC (Jirel of Joiry). Neither readers nor publishers did know she was a female.
She finally married Henry Kuttner in 1940. Moore met Henry Kuttner, also a science fiction writer, in 1936 when he wrote her a fan letter under the impression that "C. L. Moore" was a man. After their marriage they wrote many of their stories in collaboration, sometimes under their own names, but more often using the joint pseudonyms C. H. Liddell, Lawrence O'Donnell, or Lewis Padgett β€” most commonly the latter, a combination of their mothers' maiden names.

BTW, multiple pen names were necessary back then to get more than one story published per month. The pen names were used to hide the author's identity from both, publishers and readers..

HM.

Replies:   Bondi Beach
Bondi Beach 🚫

@helmut_meukel

Both publishers and readers were convinced women couldn't write hard Science Fiction.
The female writers back then used male pen names or pen names with abbreviated first name like C. L. Moore.

Andre Norton, who wrote YA sci fi in the 50s, was a woman. I read her stuff starting at age 12 or so. Never thought about the author's gender, but after I learned she was a woman, when I returned to a story or two it seemed obvious.

~ JBB

Replies:   solitude
solitude 🚫

@Bondi Beach

when I returned to a story or two it seemed obvious.

Ain't hindsight wonderful!

Cheshire_Writer 🚫

@REP

its the old adage of

"just because you act like a stupid cunt... doesnt mean you HAVE one"

The fact that people still their is a "male" or "female" author point of view.. is still a fucking joke.

It doesnt exist. Just like the "female" gaze doesnt exist in terms of art or photography

The Outsider 🚫

@Kim

I was worried, after writing the first two Knox stories, that #3 ("Sabrina") would come off as if someone had written Sabrina's character as simply a female version of Jeff.

I'm not a female (X and Y chromosome, here), so I was worried that I would lack the foresight to write her character in the right way. I'm glad it worked out, in my case..

Replies:   REP
REP 🚫

@The Outsider

If men and women truly understood each other, our marriage and divorce rates would be lower

Replies:   The Outsider
The Outsider 🚫
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@REP

True.

I'm surprised my wife has stuck with an a$$hole like me for almost 30 years…

EDIT: Well, we MET 30 years ago at the end of next March (best blind date ever), but our 25th wedding anniversary will be in a bit under two years...

Still unbelievable though...

Replies:   Switch Blayde  Joe Long
Switch Blayde 🚫
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@The Outsider

I'm surprised my wife has stuck with an a$$hole like me for almost 30 years…

Tomorrow is my 53rd anniversary.

jimq2 🚫

@Switch Blayde

Yep, Outsider is practically a newlywed.

Congratulations SB. You only have a couple years on me.

Replies:   The Outsider
The Outsider 🚫

@jimq2

Yep, Outsider is practically a newlywed.

Well... it WAS just yesterday, so I guess I am...

Michael Loucks 🚫
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@Switch Blayde

Tomorrow is my 53rd anniversary.

39 for me in October. My parents made 57 before my dad passed (but he was 44 when he married; mom was 25).

My maternal grandparents made just shy of 70 years.

TheDarkKnight 🚫

@Switch Blayde

53 for me too next week.

Rodeodoc 🚫

@Switch Blayde

Congrats SB. 48 for us and I still can't imagine what she sees in me.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking 🚫

@Rodeodoc

I still can't imagine what she sees in me.

That's because she has X-ray vision and you don't :-)

AJ

Replies:   solitude
solitude 🚫

@awnlee jawking

That's because she has X-ray vision

Is that's what's called a burning glare?

Replies:   The Outsider
The Outsider 🚫

@solitude

Pretty much...

Joe Long 🚫

@The Outsider

41 for us, next month.

Replies:   Tantrayaan
Tantrayaan 🚫

@Joe Long

That's awesome. Lovely to see how long you folks have been married for in today's day and age.

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