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How careful are you about the timeline of your story?

Marc Nobbs 🚫

The title says it all here, really. When you're either plotting out or writing your story, how much attention do you pay to the timeline, by which I mean the calendar rather than the sequence of events.
Does it, for example, matter to you if you start a story in "spring" but just a few weeks later it's the summer? Do you, for example, find yourself saying "if this thing happens in the 2nd week in April, then this event must take place in the 3rd week in May"?
With the book I'm currently writing I find myself consulting the calendar I've set up in Excel to make sure I haven't skipped too many days/weeks ahead. But I'm wondering if I'm just being anal about it and how much the readers will care.

sunseeker 🚫

@Marc Nobbs

Very careful. When I wrote Arkadia I did my utmost to ensure the days, weeks, time etc when events were going to take, or took place, were correct. For me it was very important.

SunSeeker

FantasyLover 🚫

@Marc Nobbs

I also use a calendar for the appropriate time period (1850, 1900, 2020) to make sure days are correct.

jimq2 🚫

@Marc Nobbs

I can only hope that more people do. It can be annoying and a reason to stop reading a story when they are sunbathing at a Fourth of July Picnic, and in the next paragraph they are going to a St Patrick's day party.

Big Ed Magusson 🚫

@Marc Nobbs

It depends on the story. Ghost Images,, which is being posted now, is set right after school gets out in early June and I did track the days while writing it, but they don't show up in the story that much.

In contrast, What Happens in Europe is ambiguous as to when it occurs. The only thing I tracked was the relative days, so that if I said they were going to Amsterdam in two days, it was actually two days later when they went.

For Drawing the Line (currently being released to my Reamstories patrons), I have every scene tagged with the date it occurs in Scrivener. Again, it doesn't show up in the story much, but since it's set in a real time frame (1986) I wanted to make sure that the number of weekends between holidays was correct and that real events (like the R.E.M. concert) were in the correct place.

Grey Wolf 🚫

@Marc Nobbs

My story / series (Variation on a Theme) is a do-over / alternative history, which sets it at a very specific time in history. Thus, each scene is tied to a specific day, one that generally correlates to the same day in our universe. Given that sort of story, it feels very necessary to be completely accurate with the passage of time.

If I was writing, say, an action/adventure story set in the future, I would want to make sure things that take a month took a month, pretty much, but that might be accomplished by skimming or saying 'a month went by' or 'when the thing was ready' or whatever.

Personally, I would care if, say, you had a scene at Christmas, then a scene at Valentines, but it seemed clear that a month and a half had not passed otherwise. There needs to be some sensation of time passing and things happening for the characters in between those events.

awnlee jawking 🚫

@Marc Nobbs

In a very popular SciFi serial, the protagonists have to leave within half an hour if they're going to save their allies.

The protagonists then have a debriefing meeting, an orgy and then a meal and they still have half an hour before they have to leave!

So being sloppy with the timeline doesn't stop you having a very popular and highly rated story.

AJ

Mushroom 🚫

@Marc Nobbs

In some of my stories, I am very careful.

One series in particular started in 1982, and throughout the course of it I would refer to a real calendar in order to make the days match up properly. And as the story covered of a decade in time, started to incorporate a "New Year" celebration to the reader would be able to follow what year it was in the story.

Even incorporating as it went on things like songs, movies, TV shows, and news events that would have impacted the narrator.

But as for the timeline itself, I would often jump months in which nothing of importance happened.

Paladin_HGWT 🚫

@Marc Nobbs

In my WWII story I have reliable records on where particular Divisions are from 1939 to 1945. The component Regiments I can often trace too. Battalions, I have some knowledge, in particular for key times. Companies only in some specific instances. Since the story is told from the perspective of a man at the Platoon/Company level, I need to "fill in the details" conforming to historical events.

I am using contemporary sources, individuals of similar rank and duties, who recall hearing about significant events outside their "bubble" such as the attack upon Pearl Harbor and other facilities in the Hawaiian Islands, and the Philippines on December 7th 1941, or the death of FDR. Events such as the 1939 Worlds Fair (increased availability/marketing of 35mm color film), Train Schedules (available form railroading fanatics), or a flood that effected training; are I think important, as they provide interest beyond the purely military. Also, I am trying to inform people of Who those soldiers were, and things that influenced them.

My modern war stories I keep a calendar of historical events, in particular those that would distract people higher in the chain of command. I maintain separate time lines for the various factions involved (including "friendly" forces) because Logistics and what preparations have been done, or not done, dictate what various units may do.

My stories are grounded both in the doctrine and manuals of the US Army (of various eras), historical experiences, and my service that includes participating in the planning and movement of 500 to 1,000 men or more of an Infantry Battalion, plus attachments, and minus detachments, to fight wildland fires, or floods, as well as for training, and in war. Plans are great, but your opponents have plans too...

Or, as Mike Tyson said, "Everybody's got a plan, until they get punched in the mouth!"

Readers don't see the various timelines, they just see particular events. Some readers may "connect the dots" and reasonably anticipate certain events...

For example: Friendly force A has been ordered to travel 100 km to liberate a town from enemy force X.

However, enemy force Z has been ordered to set up a defense/Ambush against force "C"

Force A has a decent plan, travel by trucks, dismount, conduct a reconnaissance, and attack with a supporting Flanking attack too.

Unfortunately, higher HQ gave priority to force B travelling the same highway, delaying force A. Now, with time running out, the HQ demands force A speed up, and they don't have time to conduct a recon, nor move part of their unit to the flank...

Both sides had decent plans, but the other side is not doing what they expected...

Replies:   The Outsider
The Outsider 🚫

@Paladin_HGWT

Or, as Mike Tyson said, "Everybody's got a plan, until they get punched in the mouth!"

Or, "No plan survives first contact with the enemy…"

rustyken 🚫

@Marc Nobbs

I use a table with columns for chapter, events, segment time (days), cumulative time (days). So there maybe multiple rows for a chapter, or there may be multiple lines in the events column.

The events column is the key to keeping the story on track and avoid overlooking an event

BlacKnight 🚫

@Marc Nobbs

Depends on the story. I have one where I have notes for each day of the story that include date, day of week, sunrise and set times, moon phase, weather, and world events. At one point in it, my MC wanted to reference a movie, but I wasn't sure if she could have seen it, so I looked it up on IMDB and discovered that it had actually opened that day, so since she had been busy with plot things, she couldn't have had time to catch it.

I have another that includes faux editor's notes pointing out anachronisms like that the characters would not have actually been using the kinds of weapons and fighting styles described, which were contemporaneous to the "author", a couple centuries after the story setting, or that a famous landmark mentioned had not actually been built yet.

Joe Long 🚫

@Marc Nobbs

Very.

I've marked all my scenes in Google Calendar. It helps to visualize the pacing and order of the scenes.
Being set in 1979-80, I want as many historical and temporal references as possible yo be accurate. I research which songs existed and the release dates of movies. Mentions of sporting events use accurate descriptions. The weather, what time the sun sets, etc.
Very occasionally I say "phuket." In the last chapter they main characters went to a Chinese restaurant. I think it actually opened at that location about 2000 but I described it accurately.
I don't want to build a new world, but rather show that my characters existed in the world as it was then.

Replies:   Grey Wolf
Grey Wolf 🚫

@Joe Long

I'm generally similar, though my in-story universe is intentionally not 100% identical to ours. Still, most things are the same and are meant to be the same, so I try to make sure things line up with our history unless there's a canonical divergence.

That said, and especially in earlier books, many restaurants were fictionalized, as were a number of characters major and minor. They're (largely) accurate, but the names aren't the same. In a few cases, a place might be a blend of multiple real-world places.

Surprisingly or not, that seems as likely to generate 'Wow, it's really cool that I can put them at this thing!' moments as 'Damn, I can't write that because it doesn't fit yet' moments. Still, there is often the point where a really good joke can't be made because it's years too early (though, in one case, I made the joke later to good effect), and I have a few story bits shoved into a 'to be used later' folder because they can't happen until the thing they reference exists.

Replies:   Joe Long
Joe Long 🚫

@Grey Wolf

I chose not to specifically name the town my story's set in, generalizing it's location (near Pittsburgh) and I fictionalize or don't name specific places that could be used to easily identify it, while trying to follow how we actually spoke. I can get away with calling Bethlehem Steel "the mill" of a specific part of it "the axle plant." We only have one college in town, so it's simply the school or college. There are multiple high schools, so those names are fictionalized. Chains of stores or restaurants are accurately named as there are many, but almost always local joints are fictionalized or generalized, unless it's already kind of general, like the "Surf'n Turf" restaurant.

When reading, I like to look up references. For Fanlon's "Pinhole" he says it's in Lincoln, NE, and I was able to pin down which high school they attended, even when not named. I look up places in Kurt Schlichter's books and can tell exactly what corner the story is taking place at. I even spot filming location in Vancouver or Melbourne on Google Earth. I'm just kind of weird about geography.

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