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AI - it ain't just writing

PotomacBob 🚫

I saw reprinted the picture of what appeared to be a real-life sexy-looking woman, but the picture was created in AI.
I heard about a short film made the same way - created with AI.
And I read a story about politicians using AI to create the voices of their opponents saying things the opponents never said.
I think I sort of understand how AI is used to create words - by searching through lots and lots of words, sentences, paragraphs and, from that, "learning" how to write.
I have no clue how software would be used to create images or voices that did not previously exist.

awnlee jawking 🚫

@PotomacBob

I have no clue how software would be used to create images or voices that did not previously exist.

I understand AI was used to make Harrison Ford look younger and speak with a younger voice in the latest Indiana Jones film.

AJ

Switch Blayde 🚫

@PotomacBob

to create… voices that did not previously exist

Worse than that is when they take voices that do exist. There are bad people who take voices from social media (like TikTok) and use AI to call their relatives (like parents) with a panicked plea for money.

Switch Blayde 🚫

@PotomacBob

Here's a great video that will scare the living daylights out of you if you have kids or grandkids who post on social media: https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/sharing-photos-kids-maybe-not-194400230.html

You all should watch this video.

Replies:   Grey Wolf
Grey Wolf 🚫
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@Switch Blayde

Agreed. This was doable years ago, but mostly people only bothered with celebrities.

That's over now, unfortunately. And no one's putting the genie back in the bottle technologically.

I expect heavy penalties and defamation lawsuits will be the weapons of choice, but it's going to be a big mess.

Even if they don't post on social media, I'd guess that's a false sense of security. Any fellow student with a cell phone camera can get enough quality pictures with some effort.

Mind you, that's relevant to personal attacks. Someone who just wants 'a kid' won't be snapping those photos, but my biggest worry is peers, not random strangers.

Also, this is obviously going to greatly widen the potential universe of 'revenge porn'.

richardshagrin 🚫

@PotomacBob

There is a world war one game from Compass Games originally from an Australian game company called Fat Al Alliances. AI and Al look a lot alike. I put a space between fat and al because it made more sense to me. Why would anyone want a fatal alliance? But I think an alliance with Jolene (joe lean) or Natalie (Nat ally) makes more sense.

Grey Wolf 🚫

@PotomacBob

In a way, all of the image 'existed', it existed as part of thousands of other images. The software knows that thing X ('Spaceship') is in these 10,000 images and not in those 999,990,000 images. It can figure out what's common in the 'spaceship' images and make a spaceship out of them. Add terms and the elements blend together (e.g. 'A spaceship in the middle of Times Square, in the style of Vincent Van Gogh' will probably get you about what you expect from a well-tuned generator).

Generators tend (right now) to be horrible with hands, but since that's a focus area, it'll probably change.

Audio fakery is much older (about a decade or more).

Similarly, face replacement is much similar - given 100 or so images of someone's face, it's reasonably possible to map their face and put it on some other body reliably. So the resulting video is plausibly that person doing something they never did.

Same technology that was used in Jurassic Park, but it cost millions then. Now it's downscaled.

Google 'Pope in a puffer jacket'. That image is a great cautionary story.

Humans tend to assume that, if you see it, it exists, but we've learned that that's not true in terms of movies. We're going to have to learn that it's not true in terms of everything, and figure out how to create universes of trusted sources.

Or we're going to screw it all up and everyone's going to live in their own totally bogus information silos.

Optimist, pessimist.

ystokes 🚫

@PotomacBob

I wonder how long it will be before the skin mags just gey rid of modals and just use AI modals.

Replies:   Switch Blayde
Switch Blayde 🚫

@ystokes

I wonder how long it will be before the skin mags just gey rid of modals and just use AI modals.

That's what the actor's union is afraid of with extras. Pay an extra one time and reuse their image an infinite number of times without paying them.

Replies:   ystokes
ystokes 🚫

@Switch Blayde

That's what the actor's union is afraid of with extras. Pay an extra one time and reuse their image an infinite number of times without paying them.

The union only covers Background (Not allowed to be called extras by union rules) in what are called "Studio Zone" which is like 30 mile radius in LA and NY and only covers a limited number of background per show per day then all else can be NU.

What the union really need to work on is residuals. It hasn't changed much for videos since video first came out back in the 70's. Mostly in my opinion is because before SAG and AFTRA merged they both had 50% vote in negotiations with the studios and for the longest time AFTRA had very few shows getting residuals so they would block SAG every time SAG wanted to strike.

They always brag about getting increases in health and pension benefits but what many don't know is that about 70% of members don't qualify for it.

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