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richardshagrin 🚫

@Dominions Son

How did a wienie become a hot dog? Weiner Schitzel is breaded veal or at cheaper restaurants, breaded pork. It may have started in Vienna, Austria.

"Wiener Schnitzel
Schnitzel in a restaurant
If there's one food most closely associated with Vienna, then it's the Wiener Schnitzel.

Vegetarians and vegans look away (I'm one, too)
Fried, breaded escalopes typically made of pork, veal, turkey or chicken
Side dishes in restaurants can be more or less just decoration: it's all about the meat
See also:
Viennese food
SO WHAT IS A WIENER SCHNITZEL?
Wiener Schnitzel
Traditionally, a Wiener Schnitzel is a cutlet of veal pounded thin by a meat tenderizer, then dipped in flour, egg and breadcrumbs (in that order), and fried until golden.

Wiener means "Viennese" in German, but the concept behind the Wiener Schnitzel likely first appeared elsewhere (I've read in Milan, Italy). Just don't tell the Viennese.

The dish is not one of those traditions only found in tourism brochures. It really is a hugely popular meal in Austrian homes, though most families use pork rather than veal (see later).

So, if you're OK with eating meat, having a Wiener Schnitzel certainly counts toward your collection of authentic Viennese experiences.

This popularity becomes evident when you enter any restaurant. You find Schnitzel on just about every single menu in the city (which makes it perfect for comparing prices across establishments).

Some locations, such as Figlmüller, might consider the dish as their raison d'être. And even places specialising in foreign cuisine may still offer Schnitzel as an option.

With time, various derivatives of the basic format have appeared.

The most popular alternative is probably the Cordon Bleu, which takes the basic Schnitzel and adds a filling of melted cheese and chopped ham. You also find Naturschnitzel on menus, which is a cutlet without the coating.

The dish even has its own snack version: the Schnitzelsemmel is a Schnitzel roll and exactly as it sounds: a bread roll with a piece of Schnitzel as filling.

PORK OR VEAL?
If a restaurant sells Schnitzel made from some other meat than veal, then they have to say so. In other words, assume your Schnitzel is veal if not otherwise labelled in the menu.

You'll soon discover that veal is actually relatively rare in restaurants, not least because of the expense.

Most places have the pork (Wiener Schnitzel vom Schwein) version instead. The menu might also feature a turkey (Putenschnitzel) or chicken (Huhnerschnitzel) option, too.

As for what else comes with your Schnitzel, well, good luck with that. Most restaurants definitely give you a slice of lemon to squeeze over the dish.

And that's about it. I'm (almost) serious.

Don't be surprised to get a near pizza-sized piece of meat deposited on your plate with a sprig of parsley as a garnish. (On a serious note, do check what your Schnitzel comes with: you may need to order side dishes extra.)"

Replies:   REP
REP 🚫

@richardshagrin

While I was living in Germany, I learned that Schnitzel is the basic pork cutlet, and it is prepared in different 'Styles'. Wiener Schnitzel is Vienna Style. My favorite Schnitzel was the Huntsman Style; I also enjoyed the Hausfrau Style.

Replies:   helmut_meukel
helmut_meukel 🚫

@REP

Wiener Schnitzel is Vienna Style. My favorite Schnitzel was the Huntsman Style;

While Schnitzel is usually a pork cutlet, a "Wiener Schnitzel" has to be veal. If pork is used it's a "Schnitzel Wiener Art". A restaurant can get fined if it calls its pork Schnitzel "Wiener Schnitzel". "Wiener Art" for a pork Schnitzel is ok, because it describes the style.
BTW, "The Schnitzel must swim in the fat, otherwise it will not cook evenly" and the crust should not cling to the meat.

Your favorite was Huntsman Style (=Jägerschnitzel), I bet that was in Western Germany. In the eastern part a Jägerschnitzel isn't meat but a thick slice of "Jagdwurst".

HM.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son 🚫

@helmut_meukel

In the eastern part a Jägerschnitzel isn't meat but a thick slice of "Jagdwurst".

Pork sausage isn't meat?

Replies:   helmut_meukel
helmut_meukel 🚫

@Dominions Son

Pork sausage isn't meat?

Not entirely. Up to 25% water added as ice. Mustard seed, pistachios, spices and herbs.
Ever heard of "mechanically separated meat"? "This puree includes bone, bone marrow, skin, nerves, blood vessels, and the scraps of meat remaining on the bones."
MSM/MRM/MDM can be used for sausage (it should be declared, but...).

HM.

richardshagrin 🚫

@Dominions Son

How did a wienie become a hot dog

"Everything about the history of the hot dog is controversial. The experts disagree on where and when it was invented, where and when it was first served on a bun, and where and when it was named a hot dog. Fact is, nobody knows none of this for sure. What we do know is that there are a lot of myths out there.

Let's begin with the creation myth. There are many who claim to have invented the hot dog in the US, but franks almost certainly came from the sausage centric culture in Germany. Germany is known for its wurst (sausages), making dozens of styles, and Frankfurt-am-Main is a big part of that culture. Frankfurt makes a good claim to having invented the frankfurter in 1484.

According to one story, franks were first served in the US when St. Louis Browns owner Chris von der Ahe sold them at his baseball park in the 1880s. Others say Oscar Meyer sold the first frankfurter in the US at the Columbian Exposition, a world's fair in Chicago in 1893. Others claim it was the founders of the Vienna Beef Co., Emil Reichl and Samuel Ladanyi that dished out the first franks at the 1893 Fair.

There is also controversy over who first placed the sausage on a bun. One story claims that Charles Feltman, a merchant at the amusement park on Coney Island, NY first put a sausage on a roll in 1871. Another story declares that at the Louisiana Purchase Exposition in 1904 a vendor selling wieners as a snack food straight up, loaned customers white gloves to keep their fingers clean. When the gloves went missing, he asked a baker to create a bun for him.

More likely Germans were the first to put sausage on bread.

How did the hot dog get its name? There are a number of myths surrounding this mystery, too. The most widely circulated myth is that the moniker was coined in 1901 at a baseball game in New York City. Legend has it that on a chilly day a concessionaire shouted, "They're red hot! Get your dachshund sausages while they're red hot." The great New York Journal cartoonist TA Dorgan drew a barking dachshund sausage nestled in a roll. Not sure how to spell "dachshund," he labeled it a "hot dog." No such cartoon has ever been found. Cool story, but unsupported by the facts.

One story holds that Johann Georghehner, a butcher living in Coburg, Germany, first called sausages "dachsunds" or "little dogs" in the 1690s. This, by far the oldest claim, is hard to document, but sounds plausible.

It is possible that the name emerged from a familiar children's tune written by Septimus Winner in 1864. It put into verse a frequent joke about what sausages were made of. The rest of the song tells the story of a drunk named Deitcher, his lost dog, and what may have happened to him. You know the first verse, so sing along:

Der Deitcher's Dog
Oh where, Oh where is mine little dog gone,

Oh where, Oh where can he be.

His ears cut short und his tail cut long:

Oh where, Oh where, ish he.

I loves mine lager 'tish very goot beer,

Oh where, Oh where can he be.

But mit no money I cannot drink here,

Oh where, Oh where ish he.

Across the ocean in Garmanie,

Oh where, Oh where can he be.

Der Deitchers dog ish der best companie.

Oh where, Oh where ish he.

Un sasage ist goot, bolonie of course,

Oh where, Oh where can he be.

Dey makes um mit dog und dey makes em mit horse,

I guess de makes em mit he.

Others attribute the origin of the name to the October 5, 1895 edition of the Yale Record. It included the following hot doggerel about "The Kennel Club," a popular campus lunch wagon that sold sausages in buns:

Echoes from the Lunch Wagon
"'Tis dogs' delight to bark and bite,"

Thus does the adage run.

But I delight to bite the dog

When placed inside a bun.

Two weeks later, the Yale Record printed a wacky bit of fiction about the lunch wagon being stolen, with its owner onboard. He awoke to find himself and his cart at a chapel where he took advantage of the situation by selling his wares to churchgoers who "contentedly munched hot dogs during the whole service."

According to Professor Bruce Kraig of Roosevelt University in Chicago in his authoritative book Hot Dog: A Global History. the first recorded use of the term hot dog was in the September 28, 1893 edition of the Knoxville Journal "Even the wienerwurst men began preparing to get the 'hot dogs' ready for sale Saturday night."

Hot dogs were most commonly called frankfurters until World War I, when the war with Germany motivated patriots to drop the name (see "freedom fries"). Within a few years of the end of the war in 1918, because of their taste, price, and convenience, hot dogs became the first fast food and, as American as Apple Pie, and they were served at baseball games, boxing matches, horse races, circuses, carnies, and fairs.

Tale of the dog
It is believed that more hotdogs are sold at Chicago's O'Hare International Airport than any other location in the world.

So last week two nuns from the Vatican arrived in Chicago for a conclave and are walking through O'Hare. Spotting a hot dog stand, the novitiate says to her Mother Superior in Italian "I hear that the occupants of this country actually eat dogs and that Chicago makes the very best dogs."

"Then I suppose we should try one," replies the elder. They approach the vendor and hold up two fingers.

He hands them each a foil wrapped packet. Excited, they hurry to a table and unwrap their first American meals.

Staring at hers for a moment, the younger nun giggles, leans over and whispers "What part did you get?"

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@Dominions Son

A 'hollow man' is an invisible man, according to the movies. So a 'hallow weenie' is an invisible penis. That would disturb a few size queens.

AJ

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