I just found a new story with the codes:
Tags: Teenagers, Rape, Fiction, MaleDom, White Male, Violent
Sex Contents: No Sex
In my opinion: A character just stating they or someone else were raped should not have the Rape code. The Rape code implies some degree of description related to the rape, which requires a degree of sexual contact.
well this is one of those things people argue about all the time as writers.
I'm reminded of a discussion i had via email with this guy about an assassin who saves a woman in the middle of being raped.
basically the assassin lands a loop of rope around the neck of the first guy who has his pants down which is tied to the saddle of a horse and the assassin makes the horse gallop off.
The result there is the first guy is "outta there..."
Then guys 2 and 3 are taken out in different ways.
I mean it depends how various lines to describe rape are determined but what i described above is one possible way to have rape without sex.
You see the assassin in the example i used may have saved the girl physically but what about the mental scarring?
*drops the mike*
Despite all you said, you missed one key point.
The Rape code is part of the Level of Consent category of codes. Those codes are used in conjunction with characters engaged in sex.
So, if the rape happens but is not described (no description of the sex), should I use the code? This is not just academic as I'm trying to determine codes for a new story. I was planning to do so but I'm also aware that some people will filter the story out at that point even though it's not described in any detail.
I was planning to do so but I'm also aware that some people will filter the story out at that point even though it's not described in any detail.
The way I'm understand it, you're damned if you do, and damned if you don't. 'You didn't code rape, but you said someone got raped in your story!' 'Why did you code rape when you didn't describe it in every little detail?' (There are some mentally different people that read stories on here.)
I included it in the story, but in my description, I said:
Note: The rape code was added due to what had happened in the past, and is discussed but not shown.
It definitely was discussed, but not in graphic detail.
I just realized that it's even stranger in this case. There is no description of male/female sex in the story so it wouldn't be coded. But rape would be.
Note: The rape code was added due to what had happened in the past, and is discussed but not shown
You're damned! ;-)
AJ
You're damned! ;-)
Which is perfectly fine by me - I'm ... well, let's just say my own, personal religious beliefs are somewhat complicated and not the simplistic Christianity that most Oklahoman's have.
To be fair i don't know how the codes work when submitting stories, whether or not the author adds them or the site managers do.
My personal view on the matter is that if your story has a full on rape scene (with sex described) then you should add on the code.
I'd also argue in the case i described earlier where it was more of an "attempted rape" the code should be added.
Beyond that i think it gets into a gray area (read as depends on the author) but if you have doubts at any point i'd say do what some authors do to be on the safe side and add a warning in your story description.
To be fair i don't know how the codes work when submitting stories, whether or not the author adds them or the site managers do.
The author selects the tags when posting the story. The moderators do not review the content of every story posted before it goes up.
The moderators may add a tag to a story if a reader reports it to site management as missing a tag.
Despite all you said, you missed one key point.
The Rape code is part of the Level of Consent category of codes. Those codes are used in conjunction with characters engaged in sex.
I admit this is true, but if someone is looking at the codes without context of digging deeper into the website then they assume there's a rape scene some where in the story not that the "rape" code is referring to the level of consent.
You see what i'm getting at?
You see what i'm getting at?
You are missing the point of the codes.
The codes are intended to give the reader an idea of the stories content. Some readers look for stories with certain types of content and some readers want to avoid that type of content.
There are multiple categories of codes. Each category groups a similar type of code. The Level of Consent category is used to group codes related to the level of consent given by the characters involved in the story's scenes.
If there are two or more characters in a scene and they mention rape without describing any portion of the rape (i.e. Karen said, "I was raped.") then I believe that is not a rape scene, and the code would not be appropriate. However, if the character provides a full or partial description of the rape (i.e. Karen said, "I was raped. He hit me and I was stunned and unable to resist.), then I believe that is part of the full rape scene and the rape code would be appropriate.
The above is my opinion. However, some authors take a different view of what codes should be included to describe story content. To some extent, I have to agree with them on specific things. Some authors feel that something like sex, an implied action without description warrants the respective code. Others say the code would only be appropriate if the action is described.
The worst part of making the decision to add or omit a code is, your readers will complain about what you decide. For the same scene, some readers will say you coded it wrong, while others say it is coded properly.
The SOL definition is "Stories with violent rape."
It doesn't say the sex needs to be described. There could be a lot of struggling and punching and clothes ripped off, but then it could be a "behind closed doors" of what happens next.
That would be describing the initial part of the rape. To me rape in not just the portion where there is touching of the body and penetration.
A character just stating they or someone else were raped should not have the Rape code.
No disagreement from me.
IMO every tag for a story should have at least one scene where instantiating that tag is a priority.
AJ
If there are right handed apes in a story is it a R ape story?
Rapes without sex used to happen all the time in Sussex, because a rape was a traditional territorial subdivision of the county.
AJ
Rapes without sex used to happen all the time in Sussex, because a rape was a traditional territorial subdivision of the county.
And then there is rapeseed, a crop produced for animal feed and vegetable oil.
I've had a character relive it as a flashback to show backstory and motivation, but it is not part of the active story. It's just revealing universe canon. I used the rape code so the reader's precious bumhole doesn't feel the ecstasy of use.
I understand you coded it as Rape, that's good.
However, regardless of whether the scenes are in the active story or a flashback, if it has sex in the scenes, the story should not be coded NO SEX.
P.S. I just checked my original post and realized I omitted a key part of it. It should have included: If there is a Rape scene, the story should not be coded No Sex.
It should have included: If there is a Rape scene, the story should not be coded No Sex.
Agreed.
lol, some stories should be coded as "Absolute squick" because something in it will get you no matter who you are.
