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Changes to the log in system

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Tomorrow, September 30th, 2020, our log in page will change. Change is hard, but it usually leads to progress.

Why the change:

As our network of sites grow, making it easy to use a single log in is getting harder. So we’re moving the log in management from your browser to the login server. This way, whenever you change your password, your browser needs to update one password for all our sites. It’s much simpler for you.

What is going to happen:

As of tomorrow, the log in page will have a new look, and you will be asked to log in. Your SOL password should work as usual. So make sure you have your password handy as you’ll need to enter it. When you click log in anywhere on the site you’ll be taken to the new log in page:

WLP Default log in form

The new default log in form

WLP Darkmode log in form

The new Darkmode log in form

charliefornow 🚫

Painless, and quite stylish, imho.

Charlie

Jared Octavinus 🚫

I got the message "Invalid IP token"

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Jared Octavinus

I got the message "Invalid IP token"

The new system uses the same brute-force mitigation system as the one currently on SOL. So, just reload the form and resubmit. If you have any security software that sits in between your computer and the internet via proxy for forms, then you must whitelist login.wlpc.com.

bigguy323 🚫

I get to many redirects. I hope this works...

barbarah 🚫

First time. Pure thoughts and clean living . . . .

aamci 🚫

"Account not found" Since my account has to be my e-mail address, and since it seems to be completely SNAFU already (I can access SOL and Finestories but not SciFiStories) I guess that's it for me.

bk69 🚫

@aamci

In another thread, Laz mentioned there were some isolated issues syncing... follow up in the SF stories thread, and I'm sure Laz can fix things for you.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@aamci

"Account not found" Since my account has to be my e-mail address, and since it seems to be completely SNAFU already (I can access SOL and Finestories but not SciFiStories) I guess that's it for me.

Try it now.

Freddy_Beach 🚫

I'm in with no issues. :-)

Replies:   Jim S  ian_macf
Jim S 🚫

@Freddy_Beach

I'm in with no issues. :-)

Me too. Like the new font. Sexy.... :)

ian_macf 🚫

@Freddy_Beach

Ditto

Ian

aamci 🚫

Can't follow up in SF stories because I can't log in! Just tried creating completely new account. Even that doesn't work.

ewodom 🚫

It logged me in no problem. At least not on the test. LOL

AllisPapa 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

I got in, np.

nmlss2004 🚫
Updated:

Invalid password.

Edit: amendment to previous, my bad. With the correct password, it works from here. Chrome/64 on Win7x64.

aamci 🚫

Still broken for me. Consistently says it has never heard of my e-mail.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@aamci

Still broken for me. Consistently says it has never heard of my e-mail.

I checked your account on SOL and compared the email address in the id server's database. They're the same.

greenbottle 🚫

Got into the SOL section OK.

Greenbottle

Lumpy 🚫

I got it, but when I tried to log in it just loaded indefinitely. Eventually I refreshed to try again, only to find I was then logged in.

Phoenix666 🚫

Is it possible to have both the email and password fields on the same page?

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Phoenix666

Is it possible to have both the email and password fields on the same page?

Why?

It's more secure like this.

Replies:   farkle76  dchap1
farkle76 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

For those storing passwords in browser prefs, having two pages is a pain. You have to click in the email field, authenticate with browser to fill the field, click the next button, click in the password field, authenticate with browser AGAIN to fill the password, and click next. Double the work. Annoying.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@farkle76

authenticate with browser AGAIN to fill the password

That's funny. I've never seen a browser that forces you to authenticate for each screen of a log in system. Google, Outlook.com, Apple, they all use two step username/password log in system. It's done for security reasons.

lcaad4e08 🚫

@farkle76

I agree, its kind of a pain. I use it on my iPhone a lot and have to log in per tab and have several open at a time. And have to re-login if I am on a new wifi.

dchap1 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Hi Lazeez,
I use a password manager that makes it one-click easy to authenticate on a single page with username and password on the same page. Otherwise, with complex passwords I have to copy the password to local memory and paste to the pw field. With other websites running who knows what software on my computer (javascript) it would be easy to capture both the ip and pw compromising security. So from my perspective it's both easier and more secure. BTW, thanks for all you do! I don't mention it enough, how much I appreciate SOL and the effort that goes into it. DL

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@dchap1

I use a password manager that makes it one-click easy to authenticate on a single page with username and password on the same page.

Whenever the password manager fails to save the password info, then it's usually best to start by making sure that no record for the domain is saved by deleting whatever the password manager saved (for example sometime Firefox saves the password but no email) and then start from scratch.

If that fails, then most/all password managers allow you to enter the log in info for the domain/site manually into the password manager and it will use it later properly.

Replies:   Dominions Son  dchap1
Dominions Son 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

for example sometime Firefox saves the password but no email

I've seen this on my Firefox install. It seems to happen most often when for some reason you get asked for the password on a different page (or a popup dialog) than your user id. Firefox seems to have the password info tied not just to the domain, but to the specific URL of the login page.

I've seen it "lose" the saved password on other sites when the login page URL changed. It happened on SOL with this change, but I re-saved the password and it works fine after.

dchap1 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Unfortunately, passx, when I click "Perform Auto-Type" enters the username in the first page's field but does not enter the password into the second page. If I click Auto-Type again it enters the username and the login fails. If I copy the password to memory and paste into the field login passes. Thanks Lazeez. This appears to be a quirk of the password manager I am using. It's unable to deal with two-page authentication.

fohjoffs 🚫

This is a mess. Please fix it.

And it looks like there is a bit of hanky panky with the login process that appears to be attempting to get personal information.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@fohjoffs

This is a mess. Please fix it.

What do you mean? How is it a mess?

And it looks like there is a bit of hanky panky with the login process that appears to be attempting to get personal information.

Huh? the main difference between the old log in page(s) and the new one is that the new one is a two step process. At no point the log in page asks for personal information. You'll have to elaborate and provide more info about your experience for me to understand the complaints.

bdopp13 🚫

My only reply is its probably gona replace the archaic security system sol has-- imo its waay out of date-- but at the same time we dont want a system that tracks too much

dontworry234 🚫

Password box does not appear after entering email on my kindle.

Any suggestions

Cleared History and Cookies

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@dontworry234

Password box does not appear after entering email on my kindle.

Does any of the page show up at all, of you get a blank screen after you enter your email?

Replies:   tyketriker  dontworry234
tyketriker 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

The page stays the same.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@tyketriker

The page stays the same.

I made some changes. It seems the < input type="image"> tag has very spotty support. I switched to a styled button. Please try it and let me know if it worked.

dontworry234 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

The page refreshes - stays the same - ie doesn't show the password box.

if you press > again
the page https://login.wlpc.com/index.php (tries to)loads an image flashes a few time then its blank

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@dontworry234

The page refreshes - stays the same - ie doesn't show the password box.

Which kindle do you have? and what version software does it have?

Replies:   dontworry234
dontworry234 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Paperwhite
Firmware version Kindle 5.12.2 (2569620025)

works now BTY ;-)
thank you

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@dontworry234

Paperwhite
Firmware version Kindle 5.12.2 (2569620025)

works now BTY ;-)

Good to know.

tyketriker 🚫

In Firefox = even creating/saving a new password/login for the site no email shows on first screen when clicking inside the box. After manually typing in email address and RETURN then stored password shows on clicking in the field.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@tyketriker

In Firefox = even creating/saving a new password/login for the site no email shows on first screen when clicking inside the box. After manually typing in email address and RETURN then stored password shows on clicking in the field.

I made sure that the password form submits the email too from a hidden field to avoid this. It works on Safari and Chrome, I don't know why Firefox ignores this field.

Replies:   tyketriker
tyketriker 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Just checked and can confirm that after logging into SOL when I then click in another tab for Finestories and Sci-Fi I get in without needing to login as long as SOL page is live.

Switch Blayde 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Tomorrow, September 30th, 2020, our log in page will change.

It's September 30th and I'm still logged in from weeks ago. I thought the system would log me off today and require me to log back in. I'm logged into SOL, the Forum, and Bookapy in three browser windows.

Did the new system not go in or am supposed to do something?

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Switch Blayde

It's September 30th and I'm still logged in from weeks ago. I thought the system would log me off today and require me to log back in. I'm logged into SOL, the Forum, and Bookapy in three browser windows.

Did the new system not go in or am supposed to do something?

Did you use the new log in page to log in to Bookapy? Bookapy had the new log in for a few days now.

So if you've used it on Bookapy successfully, you wouldn't notice when it switches on SOL; it should be almost seamless.

Replies:   Switch Blayde
Switch Blayde 🚫
Updated:

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Did you use the new log in page to log in to Bookapy?

No.

I don't remember logging out of Bookapy.

Do I need to log out of everything and log back in?

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Switch Blayde

I don't remember logging out of Bookapy.

That's odd. It should have logged you out.

Do I need to log out of everything and log back in?

If it's working, you don't need to do anything. If it logs you out, then log back in.

Replies:   Switch Blayde
Switch Blayde 🚫
Updated:

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

That's odd. It should have logged you out.

When I closed Safari it made me log in again.

The new login worked fine.

doctor_wing_nut 🚫

Seems to work just fine for me, using Firefox 81.0 64-bit in Linux. Links to Finestories and Scifistories work as well.

Ernest Bywater 🚫

I just tried using the new log in system. I used the FireFox 'add log in' option in it's preferences to add the url, log in ID, and password.

When I go to the URL I have to manually enter my log in ID as the page does not allow FireFox to automatically fill the field or complete filling the field if I start to enter. Once I manually enter the ID and click to go to the next page the code will allow FireFox to auto fill the box.

I suspect something in the page code is disabling the FireFix autofill function on the ID page.

tyketriker 🚫

@Ernest Bywater

Thank you Ernest,

You've described my problem better than me.

Probably why you're an author/writer and I just a proofreader ;-)

Ernest Bywater 🚫

@Ernest Bywater

looking at the page source code I suspect the issue may be the ID page has an initial value of Submit email and them a field value with nothing in it followed by parameters. Maybe one of these values is locking out the FireFox auto fill capability.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Ernest Bywater

I suspect something in the page code is disabling the FireFix autofill function on the ID page.

Firefox is peculiar with passwords. I don't know how to fix it yet. I'm working on it.

Replies:   Ernest Bywater
Ernest Bywater 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

You're into a part of coding I never really got to work in, so I'm kind of stumbling around in the dark. However, when I looked at the source code for the Login ID page I did think it odd you had a line of code setting the initial value at Submit Email before you gathered in the value to be entered. Thus I wonder if having a default value in there is what is stopping the autofill from working because the field has an entry in it.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Ernest Bywater

You're into a part of coding I never really got to work in, so I'm kind of stumbling around in the dark. However, when I looked at the source code for the Login ID page I did think it odd you had a line of code setting the initial value at Submit Email before you gathered in the value to be entered. Thus I wonder if having a default value in there is what is stopping the autofill from working because the field has an entry in it.

That hidden field is for the server side of things. When I was using < input type="image" name="cmd" value="Submit Email" > to submit the form, Firefox and chrome didn't send this 'value' with the form, so it was broken if you remember on the first test. I fixed it by having this hidden input with the cmd and its value.

Hidden values shouldn't interfere in a form. All log in forms have various hidden values, like that long encrypted < input type="hidden" name="v" value="">.

The password form has an invisible email address field and Firefox sees it and submits it, so it's not that Firefox is not keeping track of two forms. The first form takes the email address, verifies that it exists and embeds it in the password form so that the browser sees a combo. Now why Firefox is different than Safari, Chrome, IE/Edge, I have no idea yet.

Replies:   Ernest Bywater
Ernest Bywater 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

That's all interesting to know. However, what got my attention was the order the 2 lines of code are in. The code for the capture of the password has the lines:

< input type = "password" name = "password" id = "password" size = "25" >
< input type = "hidden" name = "cmd" value = "Submit Password" >

with the code for the data entry before the code for the submission, while the ID code is in the reverse order.

< input type = "hidden" name = "cmd" value = "Submit Email" >
< input type = "email" name = "email" value ="" id = "email" size = "25" maxlength = "64" autocorrect = "off" autocapitalize = "off" spellcheck = "false" required >

and I wondered how this might affect the way the page is processed by the browser.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Ernest Bywater

with the code for the data entry before the code for the submission, while the ID code is in the reverse order.

< input type = "hidden" name = "cmd" value = "Submit Email" >
< input type = "email" name = "email" value ="" id = "email" size = "25" maxlength = "64" autocorrect = "off" autocapitalize = "off" spellcheck = "false" required >

and I wondered how this might affect the way the page is processed by the browser.

The only time the order matters is when there are two or more inputs with the same name. Other than that, order doesn't matter.

But, then again, if everything is working as it should theoretically, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

I made some more changes to the log in form.

Testing with Firefox worked on my end (Firefox 81).

Test it and let me know if the fix worked.

Replies:   Ernest Bywater
Ernest Bywater 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

have you pushed the change out to the servers as I'm not seeing any changed code at this end yet? Cleared cookies and all data, but still showing the same code.Will continue to check.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Ernest Bywater

have you pushed the change out to the servers as I'm not seeing any changed code at this end yet? Cleared cookies and all data, but still showing the same code.Will continue to check.

I pushed some more changes. The change was in the password form.

I just tested it with Firefox 81 again. Brand new log in. Firefox saved the log in properly.

rmuller 🚫

for me this change broke my ability to log in from an iPad Gen1. all i get is a blank screen.

as i am bedridden, the iPad is my only way of accessing the site.
what to do?

btw, this came from my laptop, not something to read with in bed, in case you are wondering how i got in.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@rmuller

for me this change broke my ability to log in from an iPad Gen1. all i get is a blank screen.

At which step do you get the blank screen? When you load the log in page or after you submit your email?

I made some changes 30 minutes ago that may help.

Replies:   rmuller
rmuller 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

yes, i am able to login now.
my only remaining issue is that safari and chrome are no longer to use stored login/pw like on the old system.
can you fix that?

Dominions Son 🚫

@rmuller

my only remaining issue is that safari and chrome are no longer to use stored login/pw like on the old system.

On Firefox, I had to save the password again, but it worked after that. Probably because the URL for the password entry page is different than the old log in.

You may be having a similar issue.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@rmuller

my only remaining issue is that safari and chrome are no longer to use stored login/pw like on the old system.
can you fix that?

I don't know how to fix it if I can't replicate it. I tested with Safari (my development browser), Chrome, Firefox (gave me a bit of trouble, but now works), Safari on iOS, Chrome and Firefox and it worked.

You may have to delete the log in info in Safari or Chrome first, but when you try it with a blank record (nothing saved for the domain), then it should work.

Replies:   rmuller
rmuller 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Lazeez,
i tried all your suggestions, but none gave the desired result
when i go to the previous login page, the username and password would be there courtesy of chrome.
on the new login page, i need to manually fill the email address, and then on the password prompt the password is autofilled.
is that what you mean?
i would like the username also autofilled. is that happening for you?
i tested chrome and firefox. chrome requires i type the full email address, firefox requires a minimum of 1 char typed before showing a selection box.

jquest 🚫

It doesn´t work at all for me, I brought up safari on macos and when I enter my email address I always get an 'account not found message'. Both on anaosol and storiesonline

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@jquest

I always get an 'account not found message'.

You must be using the wrong email address. To know which email address to use, go to the 'My Account', it lists which email address was used for log in.

jquest 🚫

OK, I (as usual) was an idiot - it works for me.

Argon 🚫

Works for me (iMac 2015, Mojave, with Safari 14 or Firefox 81; iPad Air2 with iOS14, Safari). Safari and FF memorise the two-step authentification without problems. I like it that there is a single login site for SOL, FS and the others.
Then again, I rarely log out, so I won't notice the new login much.

rabababa 🚫

I can get in by manually entering Email and password, but my iPad's stored password can't. Since I'm now in, I will be patient and try the auto password thing again later.

guywithgunz 🚫

Its working on Google Chrome. I didn't even have to relogin so am leaving it as it is.
However on The NEW EDGE browser, it says
This page isn't working at the moment storiesonline.net redirected you too many times.
ERR_TOO_MANY_REDIRECTS

Ernest Bywater 🚫

Just checked how it worked on Chrome and the code as is works on Chromium. Still got the same issue with FireFox but the view page source code shows no change to the Log On ID page yet.

gmontgomery 🚫

My log in went smooth as silk.

Ernest Bywater 🚫

OK, ID page now shows changed code but actions still the same - seeing if I can find a FF setting that may affect this. Chromium works perfectly.

Ernest Bywater 🚫

@Ernest Bywater

can't find why the autofill is not working on the ID page. Still have to enter the email address manually.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Ernest Bywater

can't find why the autofill is not working on the ID page. Still have to enter the email address manually.

on mine it doesn't automatically fill the form. I have to start typing the email address and pick from the drop down menu.

Ernest Bywater 🚫
Updated:

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

I don't use the Private Windows. However, I found a setting change that allows the system to autofill my logon ID. After finally going to bed after 2 a.m. this morning I got up at 8:30 a.m. and started looking at what happens if I change any of my security settings in FF. No changes to cookies had any effect, nor changes to pop-ups, but went to Preferences - Privacy and Security - then in the History section put a tick beside Remember search and form history the system remembered the Log On ID. I don't like the system remembering the forms info, but this works.

Now to try and log on with my son's account and see if that makes a difference.

Edit to add: I've had that box unticked for years and FF has saved the log on ID information. But, for some reason, that box needs to be ticked to have it save the information and display it the next time.

sejintenej 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

I use Internet Explorer for SOL exclusively. Yes, it asks for your email address but all I have to do is insert the first letter and the program does everything else.
It is simply another form of security - for technical reasons I must have about 9 addresses in different countries so getting the right letter …….

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Ernest Bywater

seeing if I can find a FF setting that may affect this.

If you're using a private window or FF is set to always use private windows, then the log in info is handled differently. Never suggested to save.

Tom D 🚫

How can you stay logged in. It seems like you get kicked out after a time of inactivity. Bit of a pain if you stop reading to do something on the HoneyDo list and come back to find a log in is required.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Tom D

How can you stay logged in. It seems like you get kicked out after a time of inactivity.

You're supposed to stay logged in. I made some changes. Let me know if they helped. Although some browser settings can affect this.If your browser is set to expire cookies after a certain time for example, you would get logged out.

Replies:   Tom D
Tom D 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Thanks, now staying logged in.

guywithgunz 🚫
Updated:

@Lazeez,

I still cannot log in from Microsoft Edge. It tells me that the account is not found. Whereas, Google Chrome is Logged in. I haven't tried to Relogin in Chrome since I don't want to missout on reading my stories.

Please see what can be done about access through Microsoft Edge.

Regards

Severusmax 🚫

My only concern was that when I entered the security code from my e-mail, it kept asking me to enter it again. Luckily for me, I tried the password again and remembered it correctly this time.

kendry 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

I had this earlier; and when I went to read a story, the page kept switching back and forth two different views. Very disconcerting.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@kendry

the page kept switching back and forth two different views.

Two different views? You mean two styles?

mercuryman 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

What about anoonsol.net. Will that still be anonymous?

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@mercuryman

What about anoonsol.net. Will that still be anonymous?

Nothing changes about that.

Vincent Berg 🚫
Updated:

I had a mini issue, I could log in, but it didn't recognize any my Bookapy books as mine, meaning I can't update them or check my sales. Lazeez is working on it, he restores my "Vincent Berg" pseudonym, but I only have one book on Bookapy with that name, so (hopefully) he's restore my two alternate pseudonyms.

For everyone else, Lazeez responds quickly as does excellent work. Just let him know (here, if you're utterly unable to log-in) and give him a bit of time as he identifies and works out the kinds.

Also, try resetting your site cookies and clearing your cache (Google it if your unfamiliar with the procedure). It seems like many of the complaints are likely due to older default settings or an outdated cache.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Vincent Berg

Lazeez is working on it, he restores my "Vincent Berg" pseudonym, but I only have one book on Bookapy with that name, so (hopefully) he's restore my two alternate pseudonyms.

Vincent Berg pen name shows 14 books!

Also, how about you answer my private message to fix the rest.

irvmull 🚫
Updated:

Problem:

I can log in with my Premier account, no problem. Screen shows account details and list of SOL, Finestories, Clit... etc. I can get to those places by clicking on the "buttons". That's how I got here.

For a new account I set up for this test on 9/20, using a different email address, I get to the account details screen no problem. I am, apparently, logged in, since there is a "log out" link at top right. But there are no SOL, Finestories, or any other buttons, logos, etc. on that page. Therefore, no way to visit SOL or any of the others.

IOW, the only thing below the REGISTERED: line is the copyright line.

New signups will never get to read any stories.

Comparing the source for the two, the working signup has several ahref items of class=siButt. Those are all missing from the non-working login.
(Firefox 68.0.1 Linux)

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)
Updated:

@irvmull

I am, apparently, logged in, since there is a "log out" link at top right. But there are no SOL, Finestories, or any other buttons, logos, etc. on that page. Therefore, no way to visit SOL or any of the others.

The log in system can't just show all the sites. Remember, a minor that signs up on Finestories, shouldn't be offered links to SoL.

To use that sign up with SOL, go to sol and click 'Log in' and you'll see what happens.

Nobody will ever sign up for SOL or any other site by first going to the log in page, they'll go through one of the sites. The login request will create a link record in the database that you have an account on SOL for example and then the button on the login page will show up.

Replies:   m4rm2duk
m4rm2duk 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Nobody will ever sign up for SOL or any other site by first going to the log in page, they'll go through one of the sites. The login request will create a link record in the database that you have an account on SOL for example and then the button on the login page will show up.

OK, that makes sense. Thanks.

O3iC-6JG0FxI_WR 🚫

Works for me with no trouble, both on the Samsung browser on my Android tablet and on the normal Windows browsers and apps.

The last was truly impressive as I was a bit concerned whether a third-party app plug-in that I use often might not be up to handling it.

So, anyway, good on you and on that tool's support folks too. ;-)

jackjones 🚫
Updated:

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

very concerning, after relogging in I recieved a email verification of email address when I clicked on it to verify I was stopped and it was pointed out to be heading to worldsunnimuslim.net

edit. sorry it does not specifically mention sol its arrival was too close to my login i thought it was for the same thing apologies

Sloredr 🚫

Have successfully logged in to Finestories and SciFistories. But when I tried to access my SciFistories library or following lists they were empty. I have tested the library by saving one story to it and it worked fine so it does not appear that my access has been suspended. What can I do to retrieve the rest, or will I have to re-enter them all individually?

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Sloredr

But when I tried to access my SciFistories library or following lists they were empty.

Unfortunately, that what happens in a conflict in the databases. That's the whole reason for this move.

tiwag 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Is there a way to save login information so it doesnt have to be typed all the time.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@tiwag

Is there a way to save login information so it doesnt have to be typed all the time.

These days all browser have built-in password managers, or you could go for a specialized password manager like 'password1' for example.

Replies:   mavfin87
mavfin87 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

I've used LastPass for years now. As soon as the new page popped up, I looked up my password, added a new record the new URL, and I'm back to auto-login, don't even notice the 'new' page anymore.

Remus2 🚫

Haven't had a problem with the new system. Other than an extra page for the password, it's not that different.

IrishMusician 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

It's not letting me in

jantrevor_1 🚫

I t did not like my password so I had to change it. Theen, the next day it did not like the new one, and the next day...and I hope you get the message.

Jan Trevor.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@jantrevor_1

It did not like my password so I had to change it. Theen, the next day it did not like the new one, and the next day...and I hope you get the message.

Were you entering your password manually? or through a password manager? if with a password manager did your password manager ever prompt you to save the new passwords?

Replies:   jantrevor_1
jantrevor_1 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

always manual.
SOL is the only user of the PW.
Thanks
Jan

Marabu_too 🚫

Minor annoyance but still annoyance: I access SOL almost exclusively via Android.
Since the log-in update the view keeps changing to "Desktop", even though the relevant box in my browser is not ticked - I tap "mobile view", tap on a link - and am back in Desktop view.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Marabu_too

Minor annoyance but still annoyance: I access SOL almost exclusively via Android.
Since the log-in update the view keeps changing to "Desktop", even though the relevant box in my browser is not ticked - I tap "mobile view", tap on a link - and am back in Desktop view.

The whole of the new log in system doesn't do anything desktop/mobile-wise view thing at any point in the process. It doesn't even check, at all.

Your browser is doing something unexpected.

Replies:   Marabu_too
Marabu_too 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Your browser is doing something unexpected.

Thanks for your prompt response.

Electronics are WEIRD!

I tried three browsers - Firefox (v.68), Opera and Vivaldi.

All three open the Desktop View right after log-in.
FF and Opera also switched back to Desktop View every time I tapped Home.

With Vivaldi, the change to Mobile View "stuck".
When I then went back to FF, it behaved like Vivaldi had - and so did Opera.

I suppose I can live with tapping "Mobile" once in every session... though I do hate not knowing WHY.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Marabu_too

I suppose I can live with tapping "Mobile" once in every session...

When you tap the icon the option to override desktop mode on a desktop browser is saved in a cookie. if that cookie is deleted, then the browser reverts to the default.

Did you try setting it as a preference in your account?

Go to the 'My Account' page, scroll down to 'Listings', click on 'Change' next to it, then in the 'Preferences for Listings Pages' panel, at the bottom there is a drop down menu for 'Screen Layout:' Instead of 'Automatic screen size detection' select 'Mobile View' and click save changes.

chatfield24 🚫

On an iPad Air, using Chrome: After i get to the sign in page via anonsol, the form is pretty blank. There is no box for the email address. When i press a spot below "Enter email address" a box flashes but disappears. Not until I press a character does the box appear. Then it acts as one would expect.

Since my login seems to time out often, re-entering the email address and password several times a day is a bit of a pain.

popeyect 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

What are these other sites you are talking about?

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@popeyect

Bookapy

Finestories.com

Scifistories.com

The Clitorides Awards

sejintenej 🚫

Got it yesterday unexpectedly. No problems here (yet!)

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)
Updated:

Sigh!! I give up.

Even for me browsers are behaving unreliable. Sometime they work as they should sometime not! The funny/frustrating thing is they're just old/traditional html code, nothing fancy and no scripting or bullshit.

I changed the form to Email AND Password in one step. I tested with Firefox and Chrome and they behave as expected.

Replies:   rmuller  dchap1
rmuller 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

yessss.
all back to normal. Thank you.
changing the form to Email AND Password fixed ALL my issues.

dchap1 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Hi Lazeez, I find that I now have to manually enter my e-mail then copy and paste my password to authenticate. Is it possible to just use the original php code (login.php) from SOL? Thanks, DL.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)
Updated:

@dchap1

Is it possible to just use the original php code (login.php) from SOL?

The current html code that the browser deals with (email AND password form) is virtually the same as the old form.

Now, when logging into a site, you'll get a single form with email address field and password field. Just like before.

If your browser is mishandling it, then you should delete the saved login in your browser and start from scratch so that it saves both at the same time and in the future fills them up at the same time.

Replies:   dchap1
dchap1 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

It's working again. Thanks Lazeez!!

tyketriker 🚫

I don't know what has been changed in the background. One hour ago I had to type in my email in the first box. Just come back, clicked in the email box and hey presto, email entered and then password without anu typing.

Win10 and FF

Keet 🚫

For those who enter email and password manually it would be nice if the "forgot password?" was moved below the password box. That way it is only one tab from email to password instead of two.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Keet

For those who enter email and password manually it would be nice if the "forgot password?" was moved below the password box. That way it is only one tab from email to password instead of two.

Done, although, that's a browser feature that does it the wrong way. The browser should prioritize form fields when hitting the tab key and after that maybe other items on the page.

Since I created this new form I've been massacring my design for ancient browsers. Like an original iPad from 10 years ago, or a similarly old kindle that can't apply a drop shadow a form field and doesn't run the script to put the cursor in the field, so the email field and the password field are invisible. Oh well...

Replies:   Keet
Keet 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Done, although, that's a browser feature that does it the wrong way. The browser should prioritize form fields when hitting the tab key and after that maybe other items on the page.

Thanks. I noticed the same on other sites too but since I rarely use anything else than Firefox I wouldn't notice the difference with other browsers.

Since I created this new form I've been massacring my design for ancient browsers. Like an original iPad from 10 years ago, or a similarly old kindle that can't apply a drop shadow a form field and doesn't run the script to put the cursor in the field, so the email field and the password field are invisible. Oh well...

I can almost feel your pain :)
I do very little webdesign/programming and only since a year or three so I don't encounter the same problems. The ReaderInfo site is designed and build as mobile first so I have very few problems with different screen sizes and it doesn't use shadows. I test on two versions of FireFox, two versions of Chromium, and a very old Android tablet, that's it. I couldn't test anything else anyway since I don't have anything Apple or Windows, not even a smart phone.
I'm still waiting for my Librem5 and it will be interesting to see how sites display with FireFox on a full Linux distribution on a phone :D

edwarm619 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

I really don't like having to relogin every time I change apps on my iPad. Can I change that?

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@edwarm619

I really don't like having to relogin every time I change apps on my iPad. Can I change that?

Yes of course.

Don't browse the site in a private tab. Use a normal tab.

The private tab's job is to delete history and cookies, so if you use one with storiesonline, the cookie will always get deleted, logging you out.

Ernest Bywater 🚫

@edwarm619

Are you sure that isn't a setting on your ipad concerning cookies or the like as I don't have that issue with my tablet and my son doesn't have the issue on his i(diot)Phone

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