Forum: Site Announcements

is this for Readers or Authors,

I interpreted it as an option for readers.

I would have thought Authors were also considered to be Readers. Most writers do a lot of reading I think.

Yeah, that's assumed, but I was confused since authors were already informed about how to activate and deactivate the comments, so I wanted to be sure we were both discussing the same thing.

Common sense dictates he WAS referring to readers, but I just wanted to double check.

@Lazeez

After the first few requests, I moved the comments below everything so that the useful links don't fall below them. But it wasn't enough, I kept getting requests to allow readers to hide all comments altogether.

In one story (on SOL) I've got 30 comments, so yeah, it can be excessive if you run across that many comments every time you read a new chapter. (You may want to consider a 'only show new comments after they've already been viewed' option instead.) While readers may tire of seeing the old comments repeated endlessly, that doesn't necessarily mean they're uninterested in ALL comments.

By the way, that's not a demand, just a suggestion for you to consider. If it's difficult, simply turning off the comments for the story is a decent alternative. If necessary, readers could always turn it back on once the story is finished and they're reading the final chapter.

Thank you for that option, it is a welcome addition. The few times I have encountered comments, I have not found them to be helpful.

I've been lucky in that regard (crossing my fingers), but the reason I value posting to SOL, is that, when publishing, you're often throwing your stories into the void, never knowing how they're received or what readers think of them. All you've got to go on are sales, but those don't reveal how readers feel after the sale.

On SOL, I get feedback from readers, and often they'll relate story issues I never imagined. Anything from readers disliking a particular secondary character, to not liking a preview of the prequel. If I didn't have that type of feedback, I'd be stuck writing in the dark, guessing how my readers felt without anyone ever telling me.

Even if you don't agree with their views, at least acknowledging the issues will often buy additional latitude from readers, allowing you to explore the issues (story problems) over the course of the story, rather than simply giving up on it (by the readers).

You forgot to tick the box saying no junk mail.

Not that it does any good!

The only 'good' that does, is to inform the spammers than there's a living, breathing individual reading their spam. Thus they've got an incentive to sent MORE just mail, rather than less!

When I think about all the time, effort, money and trees wasted in the mission to send me every mattress ad ever devised

Just wait until you get them for cremation. Those are depressing.

over physical junk mail.

get a big red rubber stamp saying Return to Sender stamp the junk and drop it in the nearest outward mail box at the next opportunity, and encourage all your friends to do the same. Eventually that will cut down on the amount of the crap being delivered by the postal workers when they get fed up with it coming back - to stop the walkers you have to catch them at it and talk to them.

I know a person who had a post office box, and a redirect for the street mail stating to redirect mail only when addressed to specific individuals to the PO Box, and has no mailbox at the address along with a the highest front fence the council allows 4 foot high 2 foot deep brick fence with the top slanted to the street so anything placed on it slides off into the street. Any junk mail in the PO Box is dumped on the PO floor since it's supposed to be personally addressed mail only.

Since every PO Box holder started dumping junk mail on the floor the LPO staff has stopped stuffing mail in the boxes so they don't have to go out and clean it up every hour due to the loose papers being a safety hazard they got a notice about by the OH&S inspector.

Warped as it may seem, the UK's Royal Mail depends on junk mail to keep it viable. Without the money they get from delivering spam, private mail services would be able to undercut them and six days a week delivery to anywhere in the country at a flat rate wouldn't be possible.

AJ

Warped as it may seem, the UK's Royal Mail depends on junk mail to keep it viable. Without the money they get from delivering spam, private mail services would be able to undercut them and six days a week delivery to anywhere in the country at a flat rate wouldn't be possible.

And you wonder why the voters refuse to properly fund the unpopular Royal Mail delivery? It's because they've surplanted general purpose deliveries (something everyone uses) with specialty bulk mailing (which everyone despises!). As they as they continue along that route, they'll NEVER get additional funding, and are likely to see additional mail service closures. It's a losing proposition, however you address it.

For a public service to succeed, it's GOT to serve a vital function. Sending junk mail doesn't serve ANY vital service. Instead, the government has to learn how to compete with private companies by delivering what they can't, in a way that is beneficial and desired. Otherwise, I suggest they all wither and die, and they've lost their way decades ago.

It does for the senders. :)

I note who sends me junk mail, and then avoid their shops - so it does serve a purpose. I figure if they can afford to pay to have the crap printed and sent, then they have to be charging more to pay for it, thus I shop not doing that should have lower prices.

Sending junk mail doesn't serve ANY vital service.

It means letters sent to remote Scottish islands are charged the same rate as intra-Londonistan.

AJ

Utility companies whine that it's too expensive to send out paper bills to their customers, but it seems like a couple of times a month each I get spam from BT, Virgin, Sky and TalkTalk urging me to switch to their phone, broadband and television packages.

I have to wonder about the economics of their business models.

AJ

I still worry about the economics of their business models. Sending out spam attracts new customers of the type likely to move on when the 'special deal' expires after a year or so. Sending out paper bills should aid retentivity.

We've reached the insane situation where we have to change insurers etc every year or we're being fleeced, and that's surely an enormous waste of resources.

AJ

to change insurers etc every year or we're being fleeced,

Normally, the companies making the offer are doing an apples-oranges comparison to prove their prices are lower. If you buy into it and sign up, you might suddenly realize it was an introductory offer that expires 3 months into your 24 month contract. :) Buyer beware!

as it does for them to send you your monthly statement

Bulk mail rates applies to mailings that are pre-packaged by zip code. So they probably package the monthly bills as bulk mail and get the lower price. :)

I have looked thru all of the "my account settings" and have not found "show readers comments"

There are two settings:

1 - Authors to activate for the comments to be visible is at:

Home - Authors / Editors - Manage Stories - Select a story - third line of the options at the top is a button to either Hide Public Comments or Show Public Comments.

2. - Is for the reader to have the comments visible if activated is at:

Home - My Account - in the Preferences section in the middle is an option - Story Display Settings and you click on the link word Change to the right of that line - when the Story Display Preferences opens you click on the Edit button - that opens the Story Display Preferences option where you can change the colors etc. and in the middle of the settings are 2 checkmark boxes, the second one is Show Reader Comments, if a checkmark tick is beside this it will show the comments at the end of the story if the author has activated the capability, if there is no checkmark tick then they will not display at all.

Thanks Ernest, I have looked for that but was looking in the wrong place. Luckily it seems to be turned off already through the default settings. That might be the default setting for everyone as well, although I don't know for sure.

My default setting (never changed) was on, but maybe that was triggered by turning comments on for my stories.