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Story similar to "pfand x" by Lazlo.

jignesh23sharma ๐Ÿšซ

Similar story to "Pfand x" by Lazlo. Where there is secret society. But preferably no sci-fi or fantasy element.

Replies:   awnlee jawking  Keet
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@jignesh23sharma

Surely the ultimate secret society story is El Sol's sadly incomplete 'A Master's Ring'.

It probably violates your 'no sci-fi or fantasy' elements, despite not being coded as such.

AJ

Keet ๐Ÿšซ

@jignesh23sharma

Thaumaturge's The Sisterhood has a secret society, but like what awnlee suggested it violates the no sci-fi or fantasy elements. Nevertheless a very good story.

Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

A lot depends on what the op means my a "secret society".

Does he mean a society whose inner workings are kept secret from the general public, but whose existance is not secret (think Free Masons)?

Or does he mean a society whose very existence is kept secret?

if he means the latter, there probably aren't any decent stories that meet the no fantasy and no science fiction elements requirements.

Why? Because the latter type of secret society runs into the problem that all conspiracies eventually run into. The ability to keep it secret is inversely proportional to the number of people involved.

bk69 ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

Does he mean a society whose inner workings are kept secret from the general public, but whose existance is not secret (think Free Masons)?

YM "Illuminati"

HTH, HAMD

Unicornzvi ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

Why? Because the latter type of secret society runs into the problem that all conspiracies eventually run into. The ability to keep it secret is inversely proportional to the number of people involved.

Depends on how long you intend to keep the secret, and what environment. As an example, a story about the Abolitionists in pre-ACW south would likely involve several secret societies. Similarly a modern spy-vs-spy story could involve secret societies where no one outside "the business" knows the organizations exist.

Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Unicornzvi

Similarly a modern spy-vs-spy story could involve secret societies where no one outside "the business" knows the organizations exist.

Realistically, what they do might remain secret longer, but the "secret" of their existence wouldn't last more than a year and probably not even that long.

Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Unicornzvi

As an example, a story about the Abolitionists in pre-ACW south would likely involve several secret societies.

Not really a good example for what you are trying to suggest.

People may not have known who all was involved and the details of the specific stops, but the existence of the Underground Railroad was known at the time.

Replies:   bk69
bk69 ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

Again, if you know only that the organization exists, and maybe it's high-level goals, but nothing of its membership or methodology... that's the Illuminati. Or the KKK in the era mentioned.

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Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@bk69

True of the KKK, on the other hand, the Illuminati is just a myth.

Replies:   madnige
madnige ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

the Illuminati is just a myth.

...is just what a member of the Illuminati would claim.

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awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@madnige

...is just what a member of the Illuminati would claim.

...and so says everyone at Davos.

AJ

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

Does he mean a society whose inner workings are kept secret from the general public, but whose existance is not secret (think Free Masons)?

The Westminster paedophile ring is an open secret, even though the government denies its existence. And nobody has been charged with membership while still alive.

AJ

remarcsd ๐Ÿšซ

The Preacher Man by Hammingbyrd7 has some common elements of secrecy and trying to overcome a particular tyranny, although it's undermining from within, not evading an external threat.

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