I discovered another source for my searches here:
Stories in list "Up for Archival"
Today there I found "Song of Thanks" from Grampy (story I read long time ago).
I discovered another source for my searches here:
Stories in list "Up for Archival"
Today there I found "Song of Thanks" from Grampy (story I read long time ago).
When I sorted the 'Up for Archival' list by score, stories without scores were interspersed amongst the stories with scores. Does anyone know why this is?
AJ
When I sorted the 'Up for Archival' list by score, stories without scores were interspersed amongst the stories with scores. Does anyone know why this is?
This will happen with all the story lists sorted by score.
The reason goes to how the scores are calculated. The top and bottom %5 of scores are removed before the raw scores are averaged.
However, if a story has less than 20 votes, 5% is less than one vote, so none are removed.
Because of this, the scores for stories with more than one but less than 20 votes are not displayed, but technically, the story does still have a score under the hood.
Am I right in thinking that for stories old enough to be archived, it wasn't possible to switch off voting? The second lowest ranked story has a score.
AJ
Am I right in thinking that for stories old enough to be archived, it wasn't possible to switch off voting?
correct. switching off voting is an author decision and the default is voting on. If the author hasn't logged into SoL for 5 years there stories go up for archival, so if they didn't turn voting off 5 years ago they won't be doing it today.
edit to add: and the ones not showing a score are simply due to insufficient votes being lodged, as DS explained.
if they didn't turn voting off 5 years ago
If they did turn off voting 5 years ago, where would they appear in the sorted list?
AJ
If they did turn off voting 5 years ago, where would they appear in the sorted list?
yes, right at the bottom as they'd have a score of zero.
yes, right at the bottom as they'd have a score of zero.
The second lowest-ranked story has a visible score and is by the same author as the lowest-ranked story, suggesting that none of the 75 stories up for archive had scoring switched off - that's why I asked whether it was possible five years ago.
AJ
- that's why I asked whether it was possible five years ago.
I can't speak for the turning scoring on and off for the whole life span of SoL, however, I can say it's been possible to do for the past 13 years. The default is scoring on, so that's the usual case since few authors go to the trouble to turn the scoring off. To disable the scoring requires an active decision and a few minutes work by the author, and it always has.
As to the display of scores, that's an automated activity. As soon as a single vote is cast a story has a score, but it doesn't display until after 20 votes have been cast. It's always been that way so the few early scores won't influence the early readers. The not display until 20 votes aspect was a part of the system for years before the change to remove the top and bottom 5% of votes.
The end result is when you see a list of stories displayed in score order you can know the one without a displayed score has a score lower than the one above it and higher than the one below it. However, the stories with no votes at all or scoring is off will all be displayed at the bottom of a descending order list in what is effectively a random order. You also can't tell them from the lower scoring under 20 votes just above them.
It's when no score is displayed that the download count helps you to decide how frequently the story is read. Only a small percentage of story downloads result in vote, and that varies with authors and genres.
Am I right in thinking that for stories old enough to be archived, it wasn't possible to switch off voting? The second lowest ranked story has a score.
You are correct, but that's not relevant to the issue you noted. Stories where voting was turned off from the beginning have no score at all and won't show up at all in a list filtered by score, unlike the stories that don't show a score but have at least one and less than 20 votes.
Another Author has joined this list:
Vlfouquet
For anybody who didn't read his stories, read them.
They are worth reading...
Another storyteller who has passed on. According to the profile available from the Author's page.
Another author has joined to this list:
Flighttime
And his little gem: Prelude.
...
Edit 2018/07/25
I just noticed that he returned to active list.
And renamed his little gem, story is now called:
"The Wind That Drives the Sail"
For every fur and aliens lover - another good author went "dark":
Brian in the Dark.
For who ever still didn't read his stories from "Dizynitk Imperium" - I can recomend them...
He is "Conflicted".
He is Eldridge, and wrote one of very well received stories here (see above).
And he too is going to be archived ... :(
Starscape is another author that's going to be archived.
He wrote two good (finished) stories:
- "Intended"
and
- "Two in the Bush"
They are worth reading...
After a long time, here is (for me) a good message:
" No stories are up for archiving at the moment."
Hope it stays so for a long time, meaning no one more author is inactive for more than five years :)
After a long time, here is (for me) a good message:
" No stories are up for archiving at the moment."
Hope it stays so for a long time, meaning no one more author is inactive for more than five years :)
That wasn't very long: Will Bailey is up for archival.
Unfortunately yes :(
He had some really brilliant stories, like "Rachel"
He is really worth reading...
He had some really brilliant stories, like "Rachel"
He is really worth reading...
The score is indeed very high but I will skip that one. The Ma/mt mt/mt and Lolita are not my thing.
Thanks to the recommendations here, I've been reading/rereading Will Bailey's stories. Some really good stuff.
Again a ray of sunshine:
"No stories are up for archiving at the moment"
Hope this time stays so longer ...
There is an author who died in September 2013 and I was rather surprised to note that his stories are still "normal".
Away from SoL, stories enter the public domain after n years (where n is a number which keeps increasing), things work the other way around here.
I hadn't looked at Celtic Cowboy's page in a while. I wonder if his son has visited on his account since then?
I hadn't looked at Celtic Cowboy's page in a while
Sorry, but no luck :(
He is now another good one in this "Up for Archival" list.
I'm very fond of his stories, from "The Hummingbird" to "Finding Peace".
So for anyone who still didn't read his stories and doesn't have premium account - read them while you still can ...
Seems that Auntie Chastity is now Up For Archival.
If anyone's looking for a story to read, I'd thoroughly recommend her Dinner in the diner.
I notice that obohobo's stories are Up For Archival. There's some good reading there with 95 stories available for your perusal.
Doom Rains - author who wrote mostly poems (even if you may can call them very short stories), is another one on this ever growing list.
If you haven't done so - I'm suggesting you to read at least his "Ode to a soldier".
Doom Rains ... I'm suggesting you to read at least his "Ode to a soldier".
Better hurry, they're due to expire early Wednesday (10th Apr); OTOH, four of the seven are listed as 0k, so don't count as a download for basic members on a limited download count (I don't know how that interacts with premier-only once they've expired).
"Ode to a soldier"
An alternate opinion, I don't think it is worth reading. It is very short so it won't waste a lot of time, but the character is about as cardboard as they come, very hard to feel any emotional contact with his death.
Another one bytes the dust: Prince von Vlox.
From Devlin's stroy to Series about Kaliste he wrote some intriguing stories...
And to @richardshagrin:
Of course it's short. What do you want - epic adventure in couple millions words?
It's always much harder to say something with just a few words, and for me that's was the reason more to mention that story/poem here...
Bruce aka Prince von Vlox died at the start of June 2015, he must have stopped "coming here" over a year before that. He was still posting stories on GMW's site until shortly before the end.
I miss several authors here, but he was - along with Wes Boyd - right at the very top.
Another one bytes a dust: CMSIX
I think anyone browsing written words somewhere around must be familiar with his works ...
Another one bytes a dust: CMSIX
While he's no longer active, he is still alive in Texas and in poor health.
As much as I have seen that name mentioned, you would think I would have read some, but I apparently haven't. Looking through the listings it is probably because many of the stories are rewrites that were never completed. Is there someplace that I can find those in the complete, un-rewritten form before I get into them?
Sending you another address for some of his stories, including the original version of the Nanovirus before the rewrite began.
I think CMIX's story Nanovirus was his best story, and I believe it was completed. I don't know whether it is still on SOL or not.
Cheers
The rewrite of NanoVirus is still on SOL but incomplete. I don't know if the original version was completed. If it was I hope someone can point me to a place where it's still available.
If it was I hope someone can point me to a place where it's still available.
The last time I checked ASSTR it was there. Along with the finished original John and Argent. When he wanted to repost them by making changes to link them together he had them pulled from SoL to have only the new versions there.
I got a PM that pointed me to the original NanoVirus. There's no finished John and Argent on ASSTR though.
I've issues checking out ASSTR now, but I coulda sworn there had been one there 2 years back. However, it appears I may be wrong and have had my halo slip a little.
They're still there, as of a minute ago. I have his page bookmarked, but there's no completed version of the Nanovirus re-write.
I've enjoyed a few of his stories. Nanovirus and John and Argent are really quite good.
Th re-writes were never finished. The changes were to weld the two stories together towards the end of them. However, the original stories were finished prior to the re-write starting, and that's what I think he's looking for.
If the original is 46 Chapters then I believe I still have it. The file date is I believe 2005.
Cheers
If the original is 46 Chapters then I believe I still have it. The file date is I believe 2005.
Cheers
The original I got from ASSTR is 45 chapters and it says "The End" at the bottom.
Still on ASSTR at https://www.asstr.org/~cmsix/nanovirusov/nanovirusov045.htm
Yes, that's the one I was pointing out.
It's not the only reason, but there has to be some incentive to pay the money. I know, some of us can't afford it, but others can, and this is one way to encourage them.
I mean, you only need one cmsix story.
Maybe two if you want both "incomplete story about a Texan taking modern technology back to the Old West and collecting a harem" and "incomplete story about a Texan taking modern technology back to prehistory and collecting a harem".
There was a little bit more variation than that, but not a whole lot more - especially towards the end.
On of the other types of stories you forgot was along the lines of "incomplete story about a Texan taking modern technology back to the Middles Ages and collecting a harem"
But yes, most of cmsix's stories were either part of the NanoVirus "universe" or along the lines of "Modern Texan goes to past (or is sent there by aliens) with modern technology and collects a harem.
cmsix tried to do what Heinlein and Asimov (less successfully than Heinlein) did by linking all his stories into an all encompassing universe. I never understood the motive for that. Red and Victor (which is his first story I read and which is listed as complete) differs a little from his usual template, though eventually there are aliens and a harem.
I was glad to read he is still alive. I hope things go well for him.
Now we have two authors who are gone the same path, both with not so many stories, but worth mentioning:
1) Cat 5. If nothing else I can recommend his "I Won't Hurry You"
2) 800ibgorrila with just two stories, but both worth reading...
Cat5 last posted a story here at the end of February 2006. I noticed last year that his stories had not been "privatised" yet and mailed him on the off-chance that he was still lurking. No.
He had several good ones here and one additional story in the Swarm Cycle which was only posted on AssTr: "The Davidson Chronicles", copyright 2008.
1) Cat 5. If nothing else I can recommend his "I Won't Hurry You"
2) 800ibgorrila with just two stories, but both worth reading...
800ilgorrila is already archived now, Cat5 due to go AM of July 11th (give or take a half-day - there is a little variation to the notice period from the nominal 1 week)
I also recommend Cat5's Sales Team
I'll have to look up The Davidson Chronicles
ETA: 800ilgorrila went on the archive list PM of 30-06-2019 and off PM of 07-07-2019, where AM/PM means 05:30/17:30 GMT or BST according to this posting .
I can't believe https://storiesonline.net/a/Wylde_Flowers has reached that stage, it feels like last year when she appeared. All of her stories were posted within a period of under three months and she obviously left again around five weeks after the last one.
The story which had the most impact on me was her first-person account of being raped, I assumed it was real - although not tagged as such - and therapeutic.
Finally, after very long waiting period another of the "good" messages:
"No stories are up for archiving at the moment"
Hope it stays with this message much longer than couple of hours...
Why must we get rid of any stories?
We don't get rid of any stories. That's not what archiving does here. If the author fails to even log in to SOL for some very long time (don't remember and don't feel like looking it up) the stories get put behind the pay wall. They can only be accessed by paid members.
(don't remember and don't feel like looking it up)
If CRS doesn't fool me I think it's 5 years.
If the author fails to even log in to SOL for some very long time (don't remember and don't feel like looking it up)
From the posting guidelines (copied April 16, 2020)
If you don't log into Storiesonline for more than 5 years, your stories will get moved into the archives which are accessible to premier members only. We may give interested authors permission to finish any work you left unfinished.
'Premier' members can pay one of two ways - by posting a certain amount of text in their stories, or with money.
How do premier members access the archive?
There is no "archive" all the stories are in the same database. The system simply restricts access to "archived" stories to premier accounts.
Someone with a premier account to start with wouldn't even notice anything when a story gets "archived"
Automatically. Archived stories just appear as regular stories that can be accessed by "premier members".
Lazlong is another author that is (I'm afraid) no longer with us.
Who still didn't read his stories should do so.