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My Library and a story's score

Dinsdale ๐Ÿšซ

There is a story which was written to completion many years ago (when men were men and sheep were nervous), but which is now being extended with some additional chapters. I voted on it back in the day.
With new chapters are appearing, I decided to add it to my Library. Rather surprisingly, while I can see its score there, the table indicates that I have not cast a vote (column R). Looking at the story itself, I can see the vote I cast so long ago. Looking at my History, I see the same.

Diamond Porter ๐Ÿšซ

@Dinsdale

"R" shows a rating that is part of your personal note to yourself. It is separate from the "Score" that you give a story.

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Dinsdale ๐Ÿšซ

@Diamond Porter

Aren't you thinking of the "Notes" column immediately to the left of "R"? "R" is either blank or a number which maxes out at 10, the non-blank ones correspond to the vote I gave that story.

Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ
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@Dinsdale

"R" is either blank or a number which maxes out at 10, the non-blank ones correspond to the vote I gave that story.

I tested it by adding a story that I voted on back into my library. The "R" was blank even though I had voted on it.

After deleting the story from my Library, I added it in again. The very first thing on the bookmark page was to choose an "R" rating (it's before the "notes"). I chose a number different than the score I had given it and that's what showed up in the "R" column in my Library.

So the "R" is not the score you gave it when voting.

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Dinsdale ๐Ÿšซ
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@Switch Blayde

Ok.
I went to my Historical Access page and changed my vote there.
Then I refreshed the "My Library" page and . . . the changed vote was reflected in the R column. Changing the vote back to its previous value (in Historical Access) changed it back under R.

Now for the reverse test.
Adding a lower vote for this story in My Library/R had no effect on the Historical Access value. Clearing it again, ditto.

Bottom Line:
A vote for a story gets carried over to the My Library field only if that story is currently in the library.
Changing the My Library R-value has no effect on the actual vote (but who would do that anyway? The interface is rather clumsy).

Diamond Porter ๐Ÿšซ
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@Dinsdale

Aren't you thinking of the "Notes" column immediately to the left of "R"?

The "Notes" is a third thing.

"R" is either blank or a number which maxes out at 10

There is a "Score" which is 1--10, there is a "Rating" which is a separate 1--10, and there are "Notes." Of these, only the "Score" has an effect that can be seen by others.

I imagine that many people give the same number for both "Score" and "Rating," so it might look like they are the same. However, since the "Rating" doesn't affect anything else, you can use it for whatever purpose you like. (Since it can be used for sorting, it is probably most useful to create a custom sort order.)

Incidentally, the "Rating" and "Notes" can also be applied to authors that you are following, so you can distinguish the ones you liked most from the ones that you just follow in case they write something tolerable.

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Dinsdale ๐Ÿšซ

@Diamond Porter

"Score" is a n.nn value and is not something you can input.
Taking the highest rated story from https://storiesonline.net/list/10/top-50-complete-serials-by-rating-in-the-last-30-days (a story I have not read and which not in my Library), Score would be 9.62 at present.
This is about the votes I give a story, not the votes everyone else gave it.

Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ

@Dinsdale

I guess no one knows what the R-column is.

I'm not a heavy SOL user, more a Forum guy, so I never even noticed the column until it was mentioned here. Since you can put a value in it when bookmarking a story to the library, I would think it's just a number for the reader to use. So maybe the reader adds three stories and priorities them as 1, 2, and 3. The reader would assign the priority number to the story which has nothing to do with the story's score. But I have no idea.

I asked ChatGPT if it knew and it came back with: "I couldn't find any public documentation for the column headings on the StoriesOnline 'My Library' page, and the site's help pages don't appear to explain the 'R' column."

So does anyone know what the R-column is?

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REP ๐Ÿšซ
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@Switch Blayde

The R (rating) column is a number (1-10) that is assigned to express their opinion of a story.

This rating is merged with other ratings and run through Lazeez's algorithm to generate a score for the story.

I wanted to use 'reader' in the above, but there are SOL members who just assign a rating without reading the story

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Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ
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@REP

The R (rating) column is a number (1-10) that is assigned to express their opinion of a story.

But when you bookmark a story to add it to your library, you can optionally assign a rating (R value), like you can add a note. How can you have an opinion of a story that you haven't read yet?

That's why I thought it might be a personal rating system for yourself, like maybe to prioritize the stories (e.g., I want to read the stories I gave a 1 (highest rating) before reading stories with a 2).

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REP ๐Ÿšซ

@Switch Blayde

How can you have an opinion of a story that you haven't read yet?

In my opinion, that is the problem with 1-bombers. They aren't interested in reading a story. They just want to spoil the authors day. I think it also gives them some form of satisfaction that they drove a story's scored down

Diamond Porter ๐Ÿšซ

@Switch Blayde

I keep trying to answer this, but it seems that nobody understands my explanations. Let me try again:

When you create a bookmark you can set three personal fields on the bookmark: Rating, Notes, and Tags. To see these, go to "My Library," choose a story, and click on the pencil to edit the bookmark.

Since they are only for personal use, you can use those in any way you like.

The "Score" is not related to the "Rating" on the bookmark. It is based on the "Score" that you (and others) choose at the end of a chapter of the story itself.

So: the "Score" you put on the story contributes to the public "Score" that everybody sees for that story; the "Rating" you put on the bookmark is personal - only for you.

There is no connection between the "Score" on the story and the "R" on the bookmark except what exists in your mind.

Replies:   Switch Blayde  Dinsdale
Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ

@Diamond Porter

Thank you for the explanation.

Dinsdale ๐Ÿšซ

@Diamond Porter

There is no connection between the "Score" on the story and the "R" on the bookmark except what exists in your mind.

Sorry, but - as I wrote above - that is not entirely true.
If you cast your vote on a story which is in your library, that vote also lands in the "R" column. Change your vote and the R-value also changes.
Vice is not versa, changing the R-value directly has no effect on the vote.

To change the R-value directly, select it in the leftmost column of the My Library table, then click on "Tag Selected" at the bottom. The page you are then confronted with has "Rating" at the top.
It will be possible to select multiple stories in that My Library table, but I don't know - and don't care - what happens if you then hit "Tag Selected".

Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ

@Dinsdale

If you cast your vote on a story which is in your library, that vote also lands in the "R" column. Change your vote and the R-value also changes.

That's what confused me. I wonder if it's a bug. Why would the "R" be tied to the score you gave it?

Diamond Porter ๐Ÿšซ

@Dinsdale

I stand corrected (though, really, I'm sitting). I had not realized that. I just confirmed it by experiment.

It looks as if, when you add a story to your library (bookmark) and do not set a Rating at that time, and then you later set a Score on the story, that Score appears in the "R" column. If you do the steps in the other order, setting the Score before bookmarking the story, and you do not set a Rating on the bookmark, the "R" remains blank until you add a Rating.

So the answer to the original question is that the inconsistency Dinsdale noticed is probably just a side effect of how the feature was implemented.

That also explains why so many people thought the "R" was showing their scores - because it does, most of the time, for people who don't set the Rating as well. I'm sorry for being so petulant about that.

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