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stitchescl ๐Ÿšซ

A man dies in the present, is sent to the past, Fairly standard, so far. When he arrives in his new body he is one half of a set of fraternal twins, and now female. Again, been done, with the gender switch at least. His(her?) twin is a geek, and she(he?) is gorgeous but has no desire to change their orientation. Since it is not the 90s yet, orientation is a problem. The solution? Create a Harem for her brother, with the initiation being a threesome with the two of them. How she makes that happen would be part of the build-up.

rycliff_24 ๐Ÿšซ
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@stitchescl

That could be achieved fairly easy, depending on age. Let's assume mid to late teen and still in school or college. She could naturally belong to the click that ensures she knows other very attractive young girls. She could set up her brother with available girls as a dating ploy. Then she could seduce the girl(s) and suggest a kinky night with both her and her brother. It would easily grow from there to a harem building operation. The dynamics could be peer pressure oriented with new members having to go through the gauntlet of females before actually be able to be admitted in to the group. Just off the top of my head.

Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ

@stitchescl

What I'd be most concerned with is how the fraternal twin doesn't know something is amiss right away. Twins are very close and he would know his sister is different. There's the normal stuff like her not knowing anything from her past or present, but there's the age difference, the experience difference, the maturity difference between the twins.

The other thing that you'll have to get the reader to suspend disbelief doesn't have to do with it being a do-over story. I see it in all kinds of stories on SOL where the hetero girls are automatically attracted to other girls.

rycliff_24 ๐Ÿšซ

@stitchescl

Maybe you could explain it by a budding curiosity about being with girl. But as for the other she'd really have to clamp down on being overtly mature, and hiding things from twins is difficult maybe he catches her acting weird and she confesses, which opens up the door to their own sexual relationship, seeing they wouldn't consider it incest any longer.

AmigaClone ๐Ÿšซ

@stitchescl

When he arrives in his new body he is one half of a set of fraternal twins, and now female. Again, been done, with the gender switch at least.

Wes Boyd has a story on his site that starts that way. It doesn't continue your scenario.

Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ
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@stitchescl

The twin would smell a rat immediately if the original soul shared
cryptophasia (twin speak) with them prior to the event.

LupusDei ๐Ÿšซ

@stitchescl

Do-over is basically information transfer.

The way to interpret do-over to avoid time travel is that the supposedly "new" body simply dreams up a future life overnight. Said dream may or may not be proven prescient, and said dream's protagonist may differ from the body that wakes up in many ways, including in shape and gender.

Now I would throw a curveball, what if our do-over character wakes up as both twins, but we just continue from the girl's POV?

Replies:   itsmehonest  Grey Wolf
itsmehonest ๐Ÿšซ

@LupusDei

how about flipping between, maybe 2 authors

Grey Wolf ๐Ÿšซ

@LupusDei

Quibbling a bit - do-over is basically information transfer, but not always just that. In my case, the information was transferred to an alternate universe. That affects whether the information is accurate in both directions.

While one can claim that could be simply some bad transcription in the dream (perhaps it's 'always been that way', you just think it hasn't, therefore it's the same universe), other circumstances seem to establish more concretely that it's a separate universe.

Of course, one can make the argument that a do-over without an alternate universe being involved creates paradoxes, and therefore perhaps all do-overs are information transfer along with a shift in universe. Yes, pure information transfer without a shift avoids the same paradoxes, but begs the question 'from where did this information come, if not from lived experience over time'?

Making it a deus ex machina, where something external dreams up/implants a future that has the property of being almost entirely correct out of whole cloth, seems unsatisfying.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Grey Wolf

Making it a deus ex machina, where something external dreams up/implants a future that has the property of being almost entirely correct out of whole cloth, seems unsatisfying.

If I were going to do something like that, I'd make it some kind of inverse reincarnation thing where instead of remembering past lives, the MC is somehow remembering a future life that he/she hasn't lived yet.

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