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AmigaClone ๐Ÿšซ

Fairly young (mid twenties to early thirties) widower with one or more young children hires a babysitter on a regular basis.

His child(ren) are somewhere between four and ten - although they were all born after he was about twenty (only one four year old child if he was about twenty-five, to three children between the ages of four and ten if he is over thirty.)

He has a teenage neighbor girl as a babysitter, and part of her payment is some tutoring. That starts a relationship between them.

At one point he comes to realize his feelings for her and calls her and asks if she knows someone who would be willing to babysit his kids a certain evening that is not one of their regular times.

She gets upset about that says no, tells him he can find someone else to "babysit his brats" and hangs up.

He tries for a while to talk to her but is always shut down. Finally he convinces her parents and gets them to agree to a meeting between the two where he explains he forgot to ask one question before asking for help with getting another babysitter - would she go out with him?

Goldfisherman ๐Ÿšซ

I think the parents of the girl would be calling the police by that time, and he would be heading to jail as a pedifile.

Replies:   Dominions Son  Clowns
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ
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@Goldfisherman

The parents may call the police, but unless he actually had sex with the girl, the police couldn't do anything.

And even if he had already had sex with her, whether he goes to jail or not depends on her exact age. 19 is still a teenager and is old enough to consent in all 50 US states.

However, contrary to what many believe, the plurality age of consent in the US is 16 (31 states + DC), not 18 (only 11 states). In the remaining 8 states, the age of consent is 17.

https://www.ageofconsent.net/states

In addition, many states now have close in age exceptions to their statutory rape laws. While most are fairly narrow, 2 or 3 years, a few are significant. In Florida, the nominal age of consent is 18, however, their close in age exception would allow a 16 or 17 year old to legally have sex with an adult up to age 23.

Replies:   REP
REP ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

The parents may call the police, but unless he actually had sex with the girl, the police couldn't do anything.

Not totally accurate. If the girl has not reach the Age of Majority, the parents could file charges against the man for corrupting the morals of a minor, or for some similar charge. In that case, the police could act.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@REP

If the girl has not reach the Age of Majority, the parents could file charges against the man for corrupting the morals of a minor, or for some similar charge. In that case, the police could act.

I am extremely doubtful that simply asking the girl's parents for permission to date her would by itself be sufficient for any such charge.

Replies:   Michael Loucks  REP
Michael Loucks ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

I am extremely doubtful that simply asking the girl's parents for permission to date her would by itself be sufficient for any such charge.

A male over 18 asking a girl under the age of consent (17 in Illinois) for a date could be charged as misdemeanor attempted criminal sexual abuse in Illinois. There have been such charges filed (and convictions obtained) under the concept of 'luring'. That can get you a 364 days in jail and ten years on the registry.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Michael Loucks

male over 18 asking a girl under the age of consent (17 in Illinois) for a date could be charged as misdemeanor attempted criminal sexual abuse in Illinois.

Asking the girl, not asking her parents for permission. Try re-reading the OP.

Replies:   Michael Loucks
Michael Loucks ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

Asking the girl, not asking her parents for permission. Try re-reading the OP.

Then BOTH the guy and her parents get arrested, charged, and convicted of sex crimes! Try reading the Illinois Revised Statutes.

Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Michael Loucks

Then BOTH the guy and her parents get arrested, charged, and convicted of sex crimes!

Then the parents would be unlikely to call the cops.

Try reading the Illinois Revised Statutes.

I did try. While I found the illinois statute for "criminal sexual abuse", there was no explicit definition of an attempted version of it in that statute, nor did my search turn up a separate statute that defines "attempted criminal sexual abuse" in any way.

I did find three criminal cases involving "attempted criminal sexual abuse" from Illinois. One simply mentions it as a prior conviction, one was a news report of a plea deal down from sexual assault of an 8 year old. and one was an appellate decision in a case of a man who striped down in front of the victim and explicitly requested sexual contact.

I conclude that you don't have a clue what you are talking about. A request for permission to date is not the equivalent of an explicit request for sexual contact.

Replies:   Michael Loucks
Michael Loucks ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

I conclude that you don't have a clue what you are talking about. A request for permission to date is not the equivalent of an explicit request for sexual contact.

You conclude incorrectly.

AmigaClone ๐Ÿšซ

@Michael Loucks

Again the girl is over the age of consent in the state they live - NOT Illinois BTW.

REP ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

However, contrary to what many believe, the plurality age of consent in the US is 16 (31 states + DC), not 18 (only 11 states). In the remaining 8 states, the age of consent is 17.

True, but I was referring to your comment about the girl's age and age of consent being 16/17.

If the guy has sex with a consenting young woman over the age of consent but under the age of majority and the parents object, they can file charges other than rape against the guy .

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@REP

s referring to your comment about the girl's age and age of consent being 16/17.

If the guy has sex with a consenting young woman over the age of consent but under the age of majority and the parents object, they can file charges other than rape against the guy .

They can try, but very likely nothing would stick and the police are unlikely to make an arrest.

I looked up the Pennsylvania (because it was the fist result when I searched for "corrupting the morals of a minor") statute on Corruption of minors.

http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/LI/consCheck.cfm?txtType=HTM&ttl=18&div=0&chpt=63

Most of it is about inducing a minor to commit a crime, though there is this:

Whoever, being of the age of 18 years and upwards, by any course of conduct in violation of Chapter 31 (relating to sexual offenses) corrupts or tends to corrupt the morals of any minor less than 18 years of age

http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/LI/consCheck.cfm?txtType=HTM&ttl=18&div=0&chpt=31

So for under 18, but over the age of consent, strictly consensual sex would not quality for a charge of "corruption of minors"

Clowns ๐Ÿšซ

@Goldfisherman

Umm... these stories are fantasy.

AmigaClone ๐Ÿšซ

Just to be clear - the female would be above the age of consent where they live and her parent were friends with the male at the time he made that call.

oyster50 ๐Ÿšซ

I ghost-wrote a story quite similar to the original post. Never have seen or heard from the purchaser after he paid me.

Replies:   AmigaClone
AmigaClone ๐Ÿšซ

@oyster50

I will admit that the original post was inspired by your Smart Girls universe.

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