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AI story vs. AI illustration

aiming4awesome 🚫

Currently, I'm looking at stories in the feed, and I see that a number of the 'AI generated' tag, such as a number by Mat Twassel, but I'm wondering if that tag is being overused. Should there be a second tag for AI illustrations vs. AI writing? I wouldn't want to get someone's legitimately human-written story downvoted, ignored, or filtered out because of an 'AI generated' tag that feels necessary, but which only refers to the illustrations, not the writing. I'm more inclined to filter my reading to either avoid AI writing altogether, or else only read stories which have a very high voting score (7.5 or above, though it varies). But I wouldn't avoid a story voted 6.7 or above, for example, if only the illustrations were AI generated.

Thoughts?

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@aiming4awesome

The AI generated tag should never be applied by the author when it refers only to illustrations.

It's meant for the text.

Mat Twassel 🚫

@aiming4awesome

Just for the record, I only use the AI tag if the story was mostly composed by AI. It's only recently that I've been exploring the use of AI in composing stories. There have only been a handful so far. If the illustrations were via AI, I note that separately. Almost all my stories in the past few years have been brief, fewer than 1000 words, and almost none of them have had an adjusted score greater than 7.0, so you don't have to worry too much about accidentally reading a story of mine, AI assisted or not.

I find AI fun to work with. Sometimes I provide a detailed prompt and sometimes not. The AI I use, CoPilot, does not allow sex, and since generally I do sex stories, part of the fun is giving the AI story a sexual twist.

AI as a creative assistant is improving all the time. I bet that in the relatively near future we will be able to have our own AI running on our own computers using our own libraries and our own writings as the basis for AI's composition decisions.

Here is the prompt I used this morning:

Between rubbers, the four ladies of the bridge club indulge in treats and gossip. The pie and coffee have just been served when there is a loud thump. One of the women, Gail, says it was a bird flying into the window. "That's horrible," another woman, Nancy, says. A third, Brigit, says, "Birds are so stupid." Maureen says, "If you had to be a bird for a day, which bird might you want to be? I might be a crow." Gail says she'd be a puffin and Nancy says she'd be a nightingale. The third, Brigit, who made the comment about birds being stupid, refuses to choose. "Imagine if birds picked which one of us they'd want to be?" she says. Please write a little story about this event.

I was curious what CoPilot would come up with. I'll post the story (with my usual edits) in a few days.

Replies:   EricR
EricR 🚫

@Mat Twassel

I'm writing an absurd comedy with AI involving a scandal that develops when the author of a series of erotic books is revealed to be using AI to write her novels...

It's very meta.

E

Toeglazer 🚫

@aiming4awesome

I've enjoyed some of the AI covers I've seen in my short time on the site. They vary wildly in quality, but that's just a part of the fun, I'd say :)

Replies:   solitude
solitude 🚫

@Toeglazer

The saying "a picture is worth a thousand words" doesn't apply when it's AI generated from a short prompt!

(And probably not true however long the prompt.)

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son 🚫

@solitude

I'm waiting for an AI set up so you can give it a picture and it uses the picture as a prompt to generate a story.

Replies:   EricR  Switch Blayde  Grey Wolf
EricR 🚫

@Dominions Son

Interesting idea. I have a photograph that my wife took of me sitting at the table eating a taco. Sitting on the chair next to me is our cat in a nearly identical pose, about to eat a tortilla chip (don't ask, the little bugger likes salty tortilla chips). I uploaded the photo to ChatGPT, and prompted it "Write a story about this picture. Target 1000 words".

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THE CHIP NEGOTIATIONS

On most days, lunchtime in the apartment followed a predictable and peaceful script: sunlight pouring through the wide windows, the hum of distant traffic, the quiet clink of a fork against a plate. But this was not most days. Today was a day of negotiations—silent, cunning, high-stakes negotiations.

At the center of it all sat a man who believed, with great conviction, that tacos were best eaten with one's hands. He leaned over his plate, utterly absorbed, head tilted, glasses slipping down his nose. Sauce clung to the corner of his mouth. He ate with the kind of gusto reserved for the truly hungry or the truly unwatched.

Unfortunately for him, he was not unwatched.

To his left, perched primly on the chair as though interviewing for a position of great authority, sat a cat. Not just any cat, either—this was a cat who understood things. Who studied things. Who tracked every human movement with the precision of a general surveying a battlefield. A cat who recognized vulnerability when he saw it.

The vulnerability in question was a tortilla chip.

It lay on the table like an abandoned treasure. Golden. Crisp. Practically glowing in a ray of sunlight that filtered through the window. To the man, it was nothing—one chip among many. To the cat, it was destiny.

Paws inched forward.

Very slowly. Very stealthily.

The man, absorbed in maneuvering a rather unruly taco into his mouth, did not notice the shifting balance of power at the table.

The cat tapped the chip with one paw. Lightly. Experimentally.

His whiskers quivered with anticipation. Nearly there, he thought—if cats, in their mysterious inner worlds, indeed thought in words. The chip made a small scraping sound against the wood. The cat froze. He looked at the man. No reaction.

Proceed.

Another nudge.

This time the chip spun, just a fraction, enough to catch the cat's full attention and set his pupils widening into dark coins. He reached out again—

"Hey," the man mumbled around his mouthful, though not at the cat but at the salsa threatening to drip down his wrist. He licked it before gravity could win. Crisis averted. He returned to chewing, oblivious.

The cat resumed the mission.

A third nudge sent the chip fully within paw's reach. Victory edged closer. The cat shifted, preparing for a decisive capture.

But then something terrible happened.

The man looked up.

Not sharply. Not suspiciously. But enough for the cat to freeze mid-swipe, one paw in the air, the picture of feline innocence. His eyes slid toward the window as if contemplating birds, or the deep meaning of life, or anything other than the precise chip he had been trying to steal.

The man blinked at him. Then chuckled.

"Oh, no," he said, wagging a finger playfully. "Don't even think about it."

The cat looked directly at the man and blinked once—slowly, deliberately. A diplomatic response.

The man returned to his taco. A strategic mistake.

For the cat had learned much in his years of cohabitation with humans, and one lesson stood above all: a distracted human is an opportunity.

The chip operation recommenced.

But this time, the cat did not simply nudge the chip. No. He hooked it, gently but firmly, between two claws. A highly advanced maneuver. His paw rose, bringing the prize with it—

"Hey!" the man said again, but now with laughter edging into surprise. His head snapped to the left. "Are you stealing my chips?"

The cat froze—caught mid-crime, chip dangling like contraband.

For a heartbeat, they stared at each other.

Then the man burst into laughter, big and unrestrained. His shoulders shook. His glasses slid further down his nose.

"Oh, you little bandit," he said. "You really thought you'd get away with that?"

He reached out, gently reclaiming the chip. The cat did not resist, but his whiskers twitched in something very much like indignation. The negotiation had taken an unexpected turn.

The man placed the chip back on his plate, tore off a corner of tortilla instead, and held it out.

"Here. You can have this instead."

The cat stared at the offering. Considered it. Rejected it with a small turn of the head. He wanted the chip, not some soft, unsalted substitute. This was not a fair deal. This was a cheap human trick.

But the man remained cheerful, returning to his food with unabashed enthusiasm, unaware that he had just damaged the integrity of trust between species.

The cat flicked his tail. If the man would not give him what he sought, he would escalate.

With the grace of a seasoned negotiator, he stood, placing both paws firmly on the table. His head tilted in the unmistakable expression of feline entitlement.

The man looked down, mid-bite. "Oh, come on," he said, laughing again. "Really?"

The cat blinked.

The man sighed—not unhappily, but in the manner of someone who knows he is about to lose a small but meaningful battle. He picked up the chip. Held it between his fingers. Weighed his options. The cat's gaze remained laser-focused, unblinking, unyielding.

"You're going to hound me until I cave, aren't you?" the man asked.

A single tail flick answered the question.

He broke off a tiny piece of the chip and placed it on the table in front of the cat.

The cat sniffed it. Then, satisfied that negotiations had succeeded—and equally satisfied that he had gotten at least a symbolic victory—he began to eat.

The man shook his head, smiling. "You win," he said. "Again."

Peace restored.

The sunlight warmed the room. The garden outside glowed green. The man resumed his meal. The cat settled into contented crunching.

For a few moments, they simply coexisted—two creatures under the same roof, sharing a quiet afternoon, each getting a little of what they wanted, neither entirely understanding the other but both understanding enough.

When the man finished eating, leaned back, and let out a satisfied sigh, the cat hopped down from the chair. Negotiations were complete. Balance restored.

He brushed against the man's leg on his way past. A gesture with no ambiguity.

Truce.

Until the next meal.

Switch Blayde 🚫

@Dominions Son

I'm waiting for an AI set up so you can give it a picture and it uses the picture as a prompt to generate a story.

Obviously a 1,000-word story.

Replies:   EricR
EricR 🚫

@Switch Blayde

It actually produced a surprisingly good 5000 word just by changing the prompt to 5000.

Happy to PM it to anyone who wants to see. Just don't want to stuff the forum with a long message.

E

Grey Wolf 🚫

@Dominions Son

That would be really easy to develop. There is already software to write descriptions of and tag photos. Just feed the output of that into a prompt template and feed the result into a story-generating LLM.

Replies:   Grey Wolf  Dominions Son
Grey Wolf 🚫

@Grey Wolf

And by 'develop' I mean 'use off-the-shelf tools you can run at home given a halfway decent video card'. No external AI platform required.

Dominions Son 🚫

@Grey Wolf

That would be really easy to develop. There is already software to write descriptions of and tag photos. Just feed the output of that into a prompt template and feed the result into a story-generating LLM.

I would like to see it done without using a two step process.

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