When George W. Bush was President, he piloted a plane that landed on an aircraft carrier.
I'm guessing it was a Navy aircraft and not an Air Force plane.
I've heard it said that any plane the president is on is called Air Force One. But when the president uses a Marine helicopter, it is called Marine One, not Air Force One.
If that WAS a Navy plane President Bush was piloting, was it Navy One?
If that WAS a Navy plane President Bush was piloting, was it Navy One?
That would make sense, therefore it is almost certainly wrong. :)
That would make sense, therefore it is almost certainly wrong. :)
Actually, when a US President flies in a Navy aircraft, it would use the call sign Navy One. The time that Bush landed on an aircraft carrier was the first time that call sign was used. It doesn't matter if the President is one of the pilots or just the passenger.
Before 1976, the US President would frequently fly in an Army helicopters with the call sign Army One.
In theory, a US President could fly in Coast Guard One, or Space Force One if he flew in either an aircraft or spacecraft owned by either of those branches.
When a US President flies in a civilian plane, it uses the call sign 'Executive One'.
If the vice President is on board an aircraft owned by one of the military branches or a civilian plane then the call sign ends in two.
1. It was a USN S-3A Viking, with "NAVY 1" painted on the side.
2. Supposedly, he was sitting in the copilot seat during the landing. The most he said was that he did pilot the S3 during part of the flight.
3. This would have been allowed as he had been a qualified Air Guard fighter pilot and some "fam" time on the controls - under a qualified IP would have been authorized. Making a 'trap' would not have been allowed as he never was trained in carrier quals.
Actually it was an S-3B of VS-35 that flew Bush. It now resides in the Naval Aviation Museum aboard NAS Pensacola, Florida. The last S-3B to fly was retired by NASA earlier this year.
JimWar, you are correct. They were all A's during my time of service, but were beginning to transition to the B variant, as the need for CV ASW air assets reduced then was converted to different missions ...
When I was in VS-32 they were A's as well but still drew a lot of other missions, such as using the "buddy stores" to bring spare parts for other aircraft onboard ship while on deployment, transporting wing and ship bigwigs ashore on short notice on occasion. Nice aircraft.
I've heard it said that any plane the president is on is called Air Force One. But when the president uses a Marine helicopter, it is called Marine One, not Air Force One.
If that WAS a Navy plane President Bush was piloting, was it Navy One?
What we traditionally consider Air Force One is a Boeing VC-25A, the military version of the 747-200B. There are two of them, tail numbers 28000 and 29000. If the President is onboard, the plane is designated Air Force One. If he's not onboard, the plane is SAM 28000 or 29000.
The 'One' designation follows the President. Thus, his helicopter is Marine One only when he's onboard. Any naval aircraft that he would be in would be designated Navy One.
Airport takeoffs and landings by AF One aren't simply adding the plane to the queue, and it lands in line with everyone else. They basically end up shutting down the airport for about twenty minutes prior to it coming in, putting holds on takeoffs and landings. I did WAY too much research on this for my book. (I have the floorplans for both jets, too.)
I did WAY too much research on this for my book. (I have the floorplans for both jets, too.)
Is that "A True History" or something else?
Is that "A True History" or something else?
Yes.
Oh, sorry. 'A True History' is correct. Salthawk One is a Boeing 737-200. In Book Two, it was mentioned in Chapter 17 they were getting two 747-200s. These get delivered in Chapter 4 of Book Four. (That's how I know about dripsticks on the 737. And yes, that's spelled correctly. But I've also researched protocol for airport landings and departures because ... well, Cassandra as pilot-in-command got to enjoy the radio traffic, and I'll just leave it at that.)
What we traditionally consider Air Force One is a Boeing VC-25A, the military version of the 747-200B.
Some of us are old enough to remember when the main 'Air Force One' planes were Boeing 707s - which is what Reagan used as president.
Some of us are old enough to remember when the main 'Air Force One' planes were Boeing 707s - which is what Reagan used as president.
So am I. I mentioned in the story that a 747 is bigger than Air Force One, since the story is set in 1985.
I know what you mean about doing Waaaay too much research.
In several stories, a friend and I (we proof read for each other) have characters pass through Andrews AFB/Joint Base Andrews, with characters flying on a VC37B.
In at least one story reference is made to VC25A / "Air Force One" etc.
In one case it is to hint about a character's Hyper-Awareness verging on PTSD, when despite realizing he is on an extremely secure instalation, he places himself with his back to a wall, and is able to observe all entrances.
In my case, I did quite a bit of research on various transports, in particular "VIP" transports.
There is only one VC37B, yet it has appeared in multiple stories I and others have written.
I flew aboard it once, I presumed there was a dozen or two dozen of them, because I have seen the aircraft more than a few times.
I remember the Harrison Ford film (199?) where he is the president and has to be rescued off Air Force One. The marines signal they have succeeded by radioing that they are changing their call sign to Marine One and everyone cheers.
I guess my point is that it is a code that has been well known by the public (both in USA and overseas) for a long time.
In a gale, does the air force one to the ground?
AJ
Hey, making excreable puns is the job of the Grinning Dick!
Hey, making excreable puns is the job of the Grinning Dick!
I haven't seen him in this thread yet so he's not Spotted Dick.
AJ
I haven't seen him in this thread yet so he's not Spotted Dick.
If hew was Spotted Dick, he'd need to go see his doctor.
If hew was Spotted Dick, he'd need to go see his doctor.
Why? Has the doctor just finished his main course?
AJ
excreable
"excreable: Capable of being excreated or discharged by spitting."
The most recent pun I made was when I saw someone using a tweezer I mentioned Julius Tweezer, the Roman General and Emperor.
What would you do if you found a water bird suffering from smoke inhalation?
Get air for swan.
AJ
Would a story about Tex ass involve homosexuality?
What, a straight M/F couple cant have anal sex?
Does a sister who prefers anal sex need analysis?
"Essential Meaning of analysis
1: a careful study of something to learn about its parts, what they do, and how they are related to each other
a scientific analysis of the data";
In anal sex there are parts that do things and are related to each other. Anal. Why Sis? Anal Y Sis.