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Eddie Davidson ๐Ÿšซ
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I write heavy dialogue stories because I am fascinated with the interactions of people. I watched a porn today where the Mom says her step-son will inherit a large sum of money and she wants to ensure that he isn't easily tempted by any floozy. Her daughter is a total floozy, so she has her daughter try to tease him at the table and so on - I like that kind of porn because there seems to be some reason why they are all doing what they are doing - much hotter knowing the context.

Lately, I've been reading a "Dear Diary" story (Excerpt to follow by Mr. Bushida)

="Dearest Diary, I am a the very happily married wife of my husband Gary, for going on forty years now (so you can guess I'm not a young gal!). These days, he should also be referred to as My Master if you get technical about it, but I prefer 'hubby'.

Gary was the only man I'd ever been intimate with. We were high school sweethearts. I have two grown sons, and have been a housewife for most of my life, though with the kids gone I do a lot of volunteer work. Some might say I had a pretty simple life.

Let me tell you what has happened in my life over the past year or so. It may be shocking to some, yet you have to understand how truly happy I am and accepting of the training I must endure. I hope you will see that I am a realistic person. So when I say that my marriage was a happy one, and one in which we had a good and healthy sex life, I feel I'm not fooling myself.


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I love this set up - the entire story reads like this with only occaisional punctuations of dialogue.

What are your thoughts on readability/interest in that style?

bk69 ๐Ÿšซ

@Eddie Davidson

Some people may like it.
However, like stories that don't use the proper tense (past, unless your narrator is a play-by-play announcer and you're doing a MPT3K treatment) or stories where every sex scene has a running play-by-play by the female who is obviously faking enjoyment due to her being comprensible, or first person narratives by a non-lesbian female MC, I'd have zero interest.

daisydesiree ๐Ÿšซ

@Eddie Davidson

I think this could completely work, Eddie. I don't think I could write it either since I love writing dialogue so much too.

(I'm struggling with a couple of story ideas since there isn't much dialogue - yet)

Replies:   daisydesiree
daisydesiree ๐Ÿšซ
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@daisydesiree

As I told Eddie thru PM, this idea has stuck in my head so I'm going to try it and see where it goes.

I think some "details" can be added into entries that sound realistic. It will be a balance.
It will need to be vague in ways and require the reader to use imagination

Uther_Pendragon ๐Ÿšซ

@Eddie Davidson

If you don't care about realism, it might work.
Real diaries are intended to be read by the person writing them, and are -- consequently -- devoid of context.

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Uther_Pendragon

I seem to recall that the diary of someone who was a young girl at the time of the first world war was found a decade or two ago, and when it was published it had quite a large readership.

And there are examples of fictional stories written diary-form: Adrian Mole, Bridget Jones, A Nobody.

Not my cup of tea but there is an audience.

AJ

PotomacBob ๐Ÿšซ

@Uther_Pendragon

Uther_Pendragon
11/20/2020, 11:40:38 AM

@Eddie Davidson

If you don't care about realism, it might work.
Real diaries are intended to be read by the person writing them, and are -- consequently -- devoid of context.

What about a journal. are entries in a journal meant to be read by people who are not the person writing them?

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@PotomacBob

That depends on the nature of the journal.

In my opinion, a journal kept for personal reasons is synonymous with a diary.

However journal may be kept for other purposes where the intended audience is someone else, like a ships log.

irvmull ๐Ÿšซ
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@Eddie Davidson

What are your thoughts on readability/interest in that style?

It doesn't sound like a diary. Those usually contain thoughts or reactions to things that just happened on the day the entry was written. Unplanned and unstructured.

Tues: OMG! My life is over, Freddy called and said he can't see me any more! I was so angry, I blocked his calls. The Rat!

Wed: Freddy's mom called, wanted me to see his new room, which is on the other side of their house. He can't see my window from there. I feel bad. Should I apologise?

Thu: At lunch today, I was sitting alone, worrying about having to apologise, and Thad sat down and asked me why so sad. He goes, "You know what always makes me feel better?" I go, "No, what?" "A blowjob", he says. I didn't know how that would work for me, but he's real smart, being quarterback of the football team and all, so we tried just to see.

Fri: Now Freddy is mad at me. I don't know why, he started it all.

The example given is more like a "describe yourself" assignment in writing class.

Crumbly Writer ๐Ÿšซ

@Eddie Davidson

"Dearest Diary, I am a the very happily married wife of my husband Gary, for going on forty years now (so you can guess I'm not a young gal!).

Just like the many so-called "True" stories that are anything but, most "Diary" stories seem overly trite. I mean, who the hell writes like that in their own diaries. Do you begin every single entry, for 40 or 78 years, stating who you're married to? The assuming is that anyone reading your diary already has some idea of who the hell you are, otherwise you'd be so busy recapping your entire life, you'd never jot down anything new.

Dialogue based stories are best told straight, starting out with dialogue and interspaced with descriptions to ensure readers know who's speaking, what's going on and how everyone's responding.

3rd-person Omni, by the way, is great when you want to interject references to what your characters are up to. It's currently highly unpopular with most publishers, but it's also what distinguishes most GREAT books from those that you toss once you've read them once. 1st person, in general, isn't terribly memorable, though it drags you along so fast you often don't remember WTH is happening.

But the key with dialogue is creating rich characters, and that means learning who they are (i.e. how they'll likely react) before you start writing!

irvmull ๐Ÿšซ
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A diary is not an autobiography, where the writer recounts and reflects upon his life experiences.

A diary records day-to-day events and thoughts.

Perhaps someone would write in a diary:

Well, for the past 40 years, I *thought* we were happily married. Today I found out that he has been a lot happier than I have been. Maybe the succession of young, good looking "private secretaries" he's had over the years had something to do with that.

How did I find out? Last week, I called a plumber to fix the kitchen sink. He said he knew my husband, in fact, had installed the hot tub at his office. "Hot tub?" I asked. "Oops, maybe I shouldn't have said anything" he replied.*

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*True story: I did, in fact, install a hot tub in a hidden room at a prominent stock broker's penthouse office suite once upon a time. Press a button under the desk, and a panel in the wall slides open to reveal a cozy place for some "oral dictation".

Replies:   bk69
bk69 ๐Ÿšซ

@irvmull

He said he knew my husband, in fact, had installed the hot tub at his office.

Guess the husband shouldn't have disputed how much the bill was. Because he must've done something to earn the plumber's hatred, for him to rat the guy out.

Replies:   irvmull
irvmull ๐Ÿšซ
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@bk69

Guess the husband shouldn't have disputed how much the bill was. Because he must've done something to earn the plumber's hatred, for him to rat the guy out.

One could say that, but on the other hand, the tub was installed long before any of the finish work, so said plumber wouldn't have known about the hidden door that I installed. It's not unusual for high-end executive offices to have some overnight acomodations attached. They're usually not secret nor are they accessed via hidden doors in the CEO's private office, however.

Argon ๐Ÿšซ

@Eddie Davidson

You are referring to an epistolary novel composed of distinct documents, e.g. diary entries, but more often, letters. It is a slightly dated (okay a lot dated) literary form which nevertheless had its share of greatness. Think Les Liaisons dangereuses, Frankenstein, Dracula, The Color Purple and others. Jean Webster used the device for Daddy Longlegs and Dear Enemy, both popular books in the early 20th century.
Diary entries and letters give the opportunity to reveal intimate knowledge and feelings of the protagonists without writing in 3rd person-omniscient. Even when writing in 1st person, a letter or a diary found can give the main character insight into another character's feelings. That is why I like to dabble with letters and diary entries from time to time. Whether to good success, I have to leave to my readers.

Replies:   Eddie Davidson
Eddie Davidson ๐Ÿšซ

@Argon

You can also look at it is just past-tense story telling from a single character's perspective in a chronological order/diary format. As if you are reading their private thoughts and diary.

I've done two so far - it's been fun.

Ernest Bywater ๐Ÿšซ

I've seen 2 styles of stories touted as 'diary' styles:

1. Is like a set of journal entries by the mc as they go through life.

2. Starts and goes on with every activity they do each day with each chapter listed as a day - Dual Writer's Vacation is like this.

Both styles work well in past tense or present tense - writers choice as to which to use.

Eddie Davidson ๐Ÿšซ

@Ernest Bywater

The Beth story is pretty notable as a good example of a diary story.

The character seems to be writing to an intended audience almost like Enola Holmes might in the Netflix special of the same format.

I particularly like the vicarious reading of a diary that is written as if the author intends no one to discover their secret confessions.

Reading what that made for dinner would only be interesting if it helped set the tone that this is truly a diary.

Replies:   daisydesiree
daisydesiree ๐Ÿšซ

@Eddie Davidson

I glanced at Beth. The big section of dialogue don't make it feel like someone's personal diary. I guess it's a matter of how a person defines what is or is not a diary. I'm not saying you're wrong but to me it's a no.

daisydesiree ๐Ÿšซ

@Ernest Bywater

I looked up the Vacation story and to me it's more of an account and not a diary. You may see it as semantics but it doesn't feel like a diary, imo.

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Ernest Bywater ๐Ÿšซ

@daisydesiree

I looked up the Vacation story and to me it's more of an account and not a diary. You may see it as semantics but it doesn't feel like a diary, imo.

as I said, I've seen the 'literary authorities' tout the styles. In Vacation they use the style of the chapters being 'Day 1' then 'Day 2" etc so the story reads like a diary with each chapter being another day. That's why they call it a diary styles.

To me, if you label then Day 1 or June 1st and then continue from there it's the same thing. I've never seen an actual story done well when written the way you expect a person to write their personal diary with all of their daily events, hopes, etc.

IMHO, just about any story is along the same lines in that you write about events going on over a period of time and all you do different is how you slice up those time frames in the story into the chapters.

Replies:   daisydesiree
daisydesiree ๐Ÿšซ

@Ernest Bywater

IMHO, just about any story is along the same lines in that you write about events going on over a period of time and all you do different is how you slice up those time frames in the story into the chapters.

Good point. This event happened. Three days later this event happened. The next day, this event happened.

One of my many in-progress stories is an attempt to write a "diary style" that contains snippets of events and longer writings for more her significant events starting with her first days as a high school freshman. Whether it works or not will be a matter of each reader's personal taste.

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