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Paladin_HGWT ๐Ÿšซ
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Typically, I read some 1,200 to 1,500 pages a week (roughly 200 pages a day); to be clear there are some days I have little or no opportunity to read, and some days I read hundreds of pages.

I enjoy Reading and have since I was a child. I believe that reading helps me write better. Several published authors have a significant influence upon my writing; while I believe I have my own voice I "steal" ("borrow") from three authors in particular: Tom Clancy, Robert Heinlein, and Louis L'Amour. All three of those particular authors have their own particular peculiarities and foibles that "Should have made them Unpublishable."

{"Amateurs borrow (copy), Professionals steal!" Although I am an amateur, I try, at least in some ways, to write in a "professional" manner.}

When I was a teenager, I read a few books by Louis L'Amour. I don't know why I didn't read more of his books back then (late 1970's and early 80's). When I was deployed after September 11th 2001, friends of mine mailed me 'Flat Rate' 'care packages' containing mostly books. In particular a lot of books by Louis L'Amour (available at .50 cents to $1 at local used bookstores). I really appreciated them, because most of his paperback novels were only 150 to 200 pages; as were collections of his short stories. Also, many included maps of the locations where events in those stories occurred. While I was deployed, and often under significant stress, and sometimes on the edge of depression; the stories of Louis L'Amour soothed my soul, and almost always had a happy ending.

The Lonesome Gods is longer than most of his other novels, at 450 pages, and it was written c.1983 As was Last of the Breed. Sadly, if there was a sequel to Last of the Breed it either wasn't written/completed, or at least not published.

The Lonesome Gods has similarities to other novels by LL, in particular: The Californios. The Haunted Mesa.

If you feel that Louis L'Amour is 'just a Western writer' you are mistaken. Last of the Breed is set in the 1980's and has aspects of a 'Techno Thriller' and most of it occurs in the Soviet Union, Siberia in particular. The Haunted Mesa seems to be set, for the most part, in the late 1960's or early 1970's; it is a Mystery / Supernatural / Sci-Fi / Western novel, with other aspects as well.

Among the things I most enjoy about the novels written by Louis L'Amour is that he weaves Real History into his novels, and Real Places. On my bucket list is to spend weeks traveling to various locations depicted in his stories. I have been to some of them already, although not because they were in one or more of his stories. That is why I know they are well depicted. In the end the Good Folks Triumph, and the Evil Folks get a comeuppance! Not every problem is resolved with "Blazing Guns" often the hero uses Cleverness, and sometimes they avoid a fight. Sometimes a villain wises up and avoids a fatal conflict, or rarely, turns to the side of good. Compelling Characters is another strength of the stories by LL.

My biggest complaint about the stories of Louis L'Amour is that most of them end abruptly. Similar to the endings of many short stories. To me they feel incomplete, and too often one or more plotlines are not resolved. LL writes in marvelous detail, and then, he realizes "This is page 150." The hero shoots the villain; the damsel falls into his arms. The End.

I understand that such a technique "allows the reader to imagine his/her own ending." But too often a highly detailed novel just ends in a paragraph. It is jarring! While I very much enjoy the numerous 'end' chapters in the Return of the King; the final book in the Lord of the Rings Trilogy; I wouldn't want most stories to continue so long past the climax.

On the other hand Louis L'Amour published more than 400 novels. I have numerous stories that I have a conclusion plotted out for, but I haven't actually finished writing.

I am seeking the opinions of others about how to bring a story to a satisfying conclusion.

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Paladin_HGWT

I am seeking the opinions of others about how to bring a story to a satisfying conclusion.

Methinks you should have led with that.

AJ

REP ๐Ÿšซ

@Paladin_HGWT

I believe that you can't satisfy everyone, so just finish it the way that pleases you.

REP

LucyAnneThorn ๐Ÿšซ

@Paladin_HGWT

I am seeking the opinions of others about how to bring a story to a satisfying conclusion.

To me, the most satisfying conclusion is a prettily disguised open ending (not that I have the patience to get there that often in my own writing). All that really needs to be resolved, if we're talking in terms of a classic hero's journey, is the inner conflict and the immediate threat, with a helping of nice reward and a pinch of emotional growth thrown in. For everything else, a long respite is good enough. So what I need is the scene that describes that exact moment, not a convoluted untangling of all story threads and a magical flight into a happily ever after.

What you're describing about abrupt endings sounds more like a problem of unaligned inner conflict than unresolved plotlines. We always expect the hero's journey nowadays, so we always expect a resolution that has meaning beyond the immediate threat and rewards the hero's sacrifice. If either the sacrifice itself is missing or the reward, the ending feels abrupt because it seems arbitrary. If those are taken care of, the small side plots don't really matter.

But since I don't know LL's books, this is all just wild conjecture based on my personal view on satisfying endings.

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Paladin_HGWT ๐Ÿšซ

@LucyAnneThorn

Lucy, you provided an Excellent answer! Louis L'Amour does, for the most part, resolve the various conflicts in his stories. At least in an implied manner. With the defeat (often death) of the primary villain (and often the villain's cronies), the remaining obstacles to secondary issues are also resolved.

You are correct, from many of the other books I have read, I expect the ending of a "Heroes Journey" and not mere: "and they lived Happily Ever After."

One of the things I most enjoy about LL is that he presents significant detail, in particular wonderful details about the environment. Majestic mountains, scenic lakes, peaceful forest groves, and even the stark beauty of the desert. Earlier sub-plots are resolved with some, satisfying, (at least to me) detail. Thus LL's endings seem abrupt to me.

: I stepped around the boulder, shot (the villain) twice above the belt buckle. He dropped to the ground, his hand reached out for his fallen pistol, twitched once, and was still. The woman ran to me.

No mention of riding off the mountain, or out of the desert, back to town, or the ranch. No mention if they recovered the stolen cattle, etc. Implied, or course.

I think it is because I enjoy the nuanced details of his descriptions of the environment, people, their clothes, etc. and then, after great detailing of the struggle to get there. The climax is a mere paragraph or two.

It would be similar to Tolkien, after describing over multiple chapters, in significant detail, Frodo and Sam crossing just a small part of Mordor, and the epic struggle of climbing Mount Doom. Then: Sam let Frodo down at the mouth of the cave in the side of the volcano. The intrepid Hobbit stumbled in and threw the accursed ring into the molten magma.

Perhaps it is the change of pacing.

My impression is that the whole novel progresses at a certain level of detail. Then the last page, or even just the last paragraph or two are abrupt.

I must admit, that if I enjoy the story, the Characters, and the world building, I don't mind if the book continues on for some time after the climax.

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