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PotomacBob ๐Ÿšซ

Is there such a thing as a cousin-in-law? If not, what is my cousin's spouse?

palamedes ๐Ÿšซ

@PotomacBob

cousin-in-law

Any cousin that your spouse has by marriage will become your cousin-in-law.

Just as threw marriage the parents of your spouse become you mother/father-in-law.

helmut_meukel ๐Ÿšซ

@palamedes

Just as threw marriage the parents of your spouse become you mother/father-in-law.

How with steps?
When my father re-marries, is his new wife automatically my stepmother, even if my mother is still alive and they got only divorced?

I assume she stays my stepmother when my father dies.
When she then re-marries, what is her new husband?
My stepfather-in-law (no, this would be my wife's stepfather, wouldn't it?), my step-stepfather, or what?

HM.

Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ
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@helmut_meukel

I assume she stays my stepmother when my father dies.

When she then re-marries, what is her new husband?

My stepfather-in-law (no, this would be my wife's stepfather, wouldn't it?), my step-stepfather, or what?

Okay, if you are going to go there, I have to post this: I'm My Own Grandpa- Ray Stevens ( with family tree diagram) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYlJH81dSiw

P.S. At some point it gets so complicated that you either stop worrying about the exact relationship or it drives you nuts.

AmigaClone ๐Ÿšซ

@helmut_meukel

If your father marries anyone besides your biological mother, after you are born, that person legally would be considered your step-parent automatically.

palamedes ๐Ÿšซ

@helmut_meukel

How with steps?
When my father re-marries, is his new wife automatically my stepmother, even if my mother is still alive and they got only divorced?

Yes your fathers new wife would be your step-mom and living or dead your mother would still be your mother.

I assume she stays my stepmother when my father dies.

yes

When she then re-marries, what is her new husband?

If they are helping to raise you to adulthood then stepfather-in-law. If your all ready an adult then father-in-law.

Any relationship with 'in-law' in the end indicates that the relationship is by marriage and not by blood.

StarFleet Carl ๐Ÿšซ

@palamedes

threw marriage

Is that because you've already thrown the marriage away?

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palamedes ๐Ÿšซ

@StarFleet Carl

Is that because you've already thrown the marriage away?

No, it is because I'm an idiot that used the wrong word.

richardshagrin ๐Ÿšซ

@PotomacBob

A cousin outlaw would be a criminal. "A person who has broken the law, especially one who remains at large or is a fugitive."

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Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@richardshagrin

A cousin outlaw would be a criminal.

Who steals subs (sandwiches, not submarines).

richardshagrin ๐Ÿšซ

@PotomacBob

subs

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Dicrostonyx ๐Ÿšซ

@PotomacBob

Important to note that a lot of the in-law relations are cultural. I'm not talking about other countries, but sub-cultures within the US. Some groups consider everyone that's within 5 or 6 steps (2md or 3rd cousin) to be family, other groups focus on a very tight nuclear family.

This will affect whether terms like cousin-in-law will be used. To some people it's an important distinction, to others a cousin-in-law is just a cousin.

I've noticed that many people from blended or mixed families tend not to make these distinctions. A brother is A brother, whether he's a step, half, adopted, or in-law. If he's an accepted part of the family, then he's family, no matter how he got there.

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DBActive ๐Ÿšซ

@Dicrostonyx

This will affect whether terms like cousin-in-law will be used. To some people it's an important distinction, to others a cousin-in-law is just a cousin.

That's how it is in my family. To do otherwise would be as strange as calling my wife's brother's daughter a "niece-in-law."

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Dicrostonyx ๐Ÿšซ

@DBActive

Mine too. My father had a half-sister who was just my aunt. In fact, as a kid we saw her family more often than my dad's brother's family, because she lived in the same city we did.

Similarly, I have three cousins, one adopted, but I never recall thinking about the fact that she was adopted until we were in our twenties and she reconnected with her birth family. Again, she was just my cousin.

Grey Wolf ๐Ÿšซ
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@Dicrostonyx

This will affect whether terms like cousin-in-law will be used. To some people it's an important distinction, to others a cousin-in-law is just a cousin.

Or the flip side. I've known people for whom 'my spouse's cousin' would be the term. They would consider themself to have no relation whatsoever to the person (not even an 'in-law' relationship).

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DBActive ๐Ÿšซ

@Grey Wolf

Thinking more about this, some of my cousin's cousins and I refer to each other as cousins.

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Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@DBActive

Thinking more about this, some of my cousin's cousins and I refer to each other as cousins.

As I said up thread, once the relationships get past a certain level of complexity you either stop trying to be that specific or you go nuts.

ian_macf ๐Ÿšซ
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@PotomacBob

Personally, I use "in-law" only for mother, father, brother or sister, and the term "in-laws" to refer jointly to mother-in-law and father-in-law. It looks strange to me to qualify other relationships like cousin, aunt and uncle with "in-law".

ETA I also use "in-law" for son and daughter

To answer the posed question, to me, my female cousin's spouse is her husband and I don't really think of him as my cousin, and certainly not as my cousin-in-law.

I think my wife's sister's husband is my brother-in-law (but I'm not sure). Although my brother's wife is my sister-in-law, I don't think her brother is my brother-in-law.

ETA2 there is some disagreement as to whether my wife's sister's husband is my brother-in-law, so it may be regional and/or class related

I'm not clear on the proper usage of what I think is a US term "shirt tail relative", but it seems to me to mean more-or-less anyone with a connection by marriage (that is an "in-law" ??? :-). A useful term, but I've not heard it in the UK (where I grew up) or in Australia (where I've lived for years).

ETA3 After doing a bit of research, it looks like the term also covers "honorary" aunts and uncles who are not either related by blood or related by marriage

Ian

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AmigaClone ๐Ÿšซ

@ian_macf

I think my wife's sister's husband is my brother-in-law (but I'm not sure). Although my brother's wife is my sister-in-law, I don't think her brother is my brother-in-law.

In English, I would consider the term brother-in-law to be restricted to one of two groups - males married to one of the person's siblings or the male siblings of that person's spouse.

A male married to one of my spouse's siblings would be called cocunhado in Portuguese.

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