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Good "self-insert" Fiction

ChiMi ๐Ÿšซ

I THINK the term is "self-insert"
in which the protagonist knows about the lore and the characters of a specific fiction.

My first experience with this kind of fiction was with the author Princess Alexandria who did mostly x-men fan fiction. I was indifferent to the x-men franchise and read her stories because she was constantly on the best femslash lists. She wrote very good fictions with that premise and her OC character later jumped through other dimensions into fictions like Gargoyles, Twilight, even Voyager.

Well, enough about her, I wanted to get recommendations and not babble about another author ^^

The few fiction's about self-insertions, that I read were either hit or miss. Alexandria's OC character was aware of the lore of the fictional Universe she jumped into but wasn't 4th wall breaking. She was a character that read books about that Universe and was a character in her own fictional Universe. She is the only survivor of a post-apocalyptic world and has to integrate into a world, that was to her knowledge only fiction.

on the other end of the spectrum, we have the self-aware 4th wall breaking character that knows he is in a story. The majority of these stories have the element, that the author himself is inserted as a character into the story. (ergo: self-insertion). That's hit or miss, but mostly miss. It can work if the story itself isn't taking itself seriously.

So, any recommendations? :)

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@ChiMi

Assuming I have the remotest idea what you're talking about, how about 'There and Back' by Aquea. It's still in progress but it's a long story.

AJ

Replies:   StarFleet Carl
StarFleet Carl ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

Assuming I have the remotest idea what you're talking about, how about 'There and Back' by Aquea. It's still in progress but it's a long story.

That was the first thing I thought of as well. And the nice thing is you don't really have to know the Dragon Age game to enjoy the story. And it's a damn good read.

I didn't do a self-insertion with my story, but what I've done is a play through of the Bethesda video game Skyrim and write my story as I was playing. "Legacy of a Legend" is the title. So I made choices throughout the game play and then wrote it all out. I'll be posting the final chapter in it tomorrow, if you'd like a completed story to read. 74 chapters, 2.3 million characters, about 960 pages long. Be gentle - it's my first novel, and I know that the first 20 or so chapters aren't up to the quality of the later ones. (We've been discussing some of that over on the Author's Forum.)

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awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@StarFleet Carl

That was the first thing I thought of as well. And the nice thing is you don't really have to know the Dragon Age game to enjoy the story. And it's a damn good read.

In my opinion it was a damn good read but now that the protagonist has stopped zipping between universes, has survived what appeared to be a couple of major climaxes and is now heavily involved in the game politics, for me it's lost its edge.

AJ

paliden ๐Ÿšซ

@ChiMi

What is "self-insert" ?

Do you mean the author is the main character of the story, similar to cmsix's "John and Argent"?

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ChiMi ๐Ÿšซ

@paliden

Do you mean the author is the main character of the story, similar to cmsix's "John and Argent"?

Yes, the Author is the main character. Or, like in my first example, knows of the universe he/she was inserted but isn't self-aware that she/he is a character himself.

Replies:   Not_a_ID  Ernest Bywater
Not_a_ID ๐Ÿšซ
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@ChiMi

The other term is "wish fulfillment" which may or may not mess with the proverbial " 4th wall" in regards to the specified character being aware of what is going on.

Ernest Bywater ๐Ÿšซ

@ChiMi

Or, like in my first example, knows of the universe he/she was inserted but isn't self-aware that she/he is a character himself.

sounds like a first person story with an activity like the main part of the story of Tron.

meangene ๐Ÿšซ

I do not know if this is what you are looking for but you might try the "Worlds of Light" stories by Sea-Life. The ones set on Arbor and the Midnight stories seem close to what you are looking for.

Vincent Berg ๐Ÿšซ

@ChiMi

I THINK the term is "self-insert"
in which the protagonist knows about the lore and the characters of a specific fiction.

The literary term is 'self-referential', where the author refers to themselves (their likes, dislikes and personal knowledge and experiences) making the story more author wish-fulfillment than fiction.

The classical example of this is "I was sitting, along in my room reading the latest incest stories on SOL when my sister walked in and ..."

In short, it's writing fiction designed to appeal to a specific targeted group, rather than trying to write something which might appeal to any reader.

Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@ChiMi

The majority of these stories have the element, that the author himself is inserted as a character into the story. (ergo: self-insertion).

Not necessarily on this site, but therere are a lot of stories out there that do it deliberately for comic effect, not as self insertion. See Marvel's Deadpool franchise for a good example of this.

Replies:   StarFleet Carl
StarFleet Carl ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

See Marvel's Deadpool franchise for a good example of this.

Another franchise that did this is 'She-Hulk'.

Also, in dead tree books, how many times did Clive Cussler end up sticking himself in one of his Dirk Pitt adventures? At least once every single book, such that after a while, I at least found it annoying enough that I quit reading his books.

odinlowejr88 ๐Ÿšซ
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Tv Tropes Self-Insert Recs

The largest fanfiction.net SI community

Another fanfiction.net self insert community that attempts to filter out the crappier si fics

The Spacebattles forum SI Archive thread (last update was years ago so may want to use the tag search link below instead)

Spacebattles 'self insert' tag search

Sufficient Velocity forum SI Archive thread

The Questionable Questing forum SI Archive thread

Archive of Our Own (AO3) Self-Insert tag search

Naruto tends to have the best quality SIs. The fanfic 'Dreaming of Sunshine' caused the genre to explode in that fandom.

There are a lot of SIs based on the 'CYOA' someone made for the webnovel Worm but you'll have to filter through a lot of crap to find anything good there.

The Young Justice cartoon series has a lot of pretty good SI fics (even if you're not into DC they tend to be pretty good) This is another fandom where the genre exploded because of an amazing example titled 'With this Ring'.

One Piece has quite a few SI fics of which Tsume Yuki's 'Tell it to the Marines' is probably the most popular.

Harry Potter has a lot less SI fics than you would think. Slayer Anderson's 'In Bad Faith' is pretty good but it's been dropped and never actually made it to the beginning of the canon storyline. Another titled 'The Evil Overlord List' where the insert acts as a voice in young Tom Riddle's head is pretty good too.

ChiMi ๐Ÿšซ

Thank you for the massive help :)

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