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Some rules for this forum section

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Today there was a post (that I deleted) started by a member here that was basically a bunch of links to Lit. and a lone link to a story on SOL.

This board is not a place to advertise other sites. Please refrain from that practice.

Switch Blayde

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

This board is not a place to advertise other sites.


I agree

kimlsevier

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

I also agree

Dominions Son

I agree as well, but more precise guidelines would be helpful.

Sometimes readers post on the lost stories forum asking about stories that are not on SOL.

Should we just never link to other sites?

Never mention them?

Is it okay in response to a lost story request?

What if a reader wants to ask if there are similar stories here to a story the user found elsewhere?

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Dominions Son

I agree as well, but more precise guidelines would be helpful.


If it's a reply to a lost story question, then if the story isn't available on SOL, then don't mind links to other sites. I never blocked them or deleted them before.

But an unsolicited suggestion/recommendation to a bunch of offsite stories isn't acceptable. Today's post that prompted my post was nearly 10 links to Lit. and one to SOL, and I felt that the poster included the SOL link simply to make it look like it's not completely an ad for Lit.

Again, there are no rigid rules. Use (the seemingly rare these days) common sense.

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sunkuwan

I had replied to someone asking for Harry Potter fics. SOL isnt really big on Harry potter or Fanfiction at large, so I gave the user some recommendations to fanfiction stories.
Is that OK?

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@sunkuwan

I had replied to someone asking for Harry Potter fics. SOL isnt really big on Harry potter or Fanfiction at large, so I gave the user some recommendations to fanfiction stories.
Is that OK?


It's annoying to me as the owner of SOL, but it was technically fine and I allowed it.

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Bondi Beach

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

This board is not a place to advertise other sites. Please refrain from that practice.


I have regularly told readers in my SOL blog that X story is now available in a slightly different format (including print version sometimes) on Amazon or iTunes or wherever. Digital editions are free, and I note the story as posted on SOL will remain here. Is this OK with you?

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Ernest Bywater

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Again, there are no rigid rules. Use (the seemingly rare these days) common sense.


T thought you knew that famous quote:

"There's nothing so uncommon as common sense."

Wheezer
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Links to kindle authors/stories are okay or not? That's not sending people to competing story sites like Lit, and those stories have often been withdrawn from SOL or were never available here.

What about author's personal web sites like Grynen Barit, Sennedar or BTFH? (even though she hosts other authors.)

It's hard to know where the line in the sand is until we accidentally cross it.

whocarez
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Hello Lazeez,

I believe you are referring to my post. I do apologize as my intent was not to advertise but to gain recommendations based on stories in similar genres. There was actually 2 stories from SOL and others were from various other websites, but same genres. Reason being is SOL timed out as I had too many stories within a 24hr period while making that post.

I can assure you that being a member from 2008 I had no intention to advertise, dont really benefit from that, but to see if there waz anything similar I could read or possibly missed.

Thank you for the rules. I did check the rules section before posting and did not find this wording but will reference it for future.

Also wanted to know, if we do not include links can we suggest the stories or is that against the rules as well?

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Wheezer

Links to kindle authors/stories are okay or not? That's not sending people to competing story sites like Lit, and those stories have often been withdrawn from SOL or were never available here.


Links to Kindle stories on amazon are only acceptable if they are the only answer to a specific question from a reader looking for those specific stories. Suggesting such stories without them being the subject of a specific inquiry is practically an ad for such books.

What about author's personal web sites like Grynen Barit, Sennedar or BTFH? (even though she hosts other authors.)


Again, if the link is an answer to a request seeking the story, then they're fine. Suggesting stories on other sites are promotions.

It's hard to know where the line in the sand is until we accidentally cross it.


Not really. It's very basic. If it's a response to a query, then it's fine on any site. If it's not, then the only acceptable 'suggestions/recommendations' are links to stories on the site here.

Ernest Bywater

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Not really. It's very basic. If it's a response to a query, then it's fine on any site. If it's not, then the only acceptable 'suggestions/recommendations' are links to stories on the site here.


Lazeez,

I'd just like to clarify that this set of rules applies to the posts here in the forum, and there's no change to what you've previously allowed in the author blogs.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Ernest Bywater

I'd just like to clarify that this set of rules applies to the posts here in the forum, and there's no change to what you've previously allowed in the author blogs.


Yes, these new rules are for the forum.

Ernest Bywater

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Yes, these new rules are for the forum.


Thanks, for both the clarification and the line in the sand to make it easier for us.

Bondi Beach

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Yes, these new rules are for the forum.


Got it. Thanks.

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Wheezer

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Not really. It's very basic. If it's a response to a query, then it's fine on any site. If it's not, then the only acceptable 'suggestions/recommendations' are links to stories on the site here.


Thanks. That clears it up pretty well. Don't start threads about other sites/authors, but okay to answer questions. :D

Not_a_ID

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

It's annoying to me as the owner of SOL, but it was technically fine and I allowed it.


I kind of figured I was skirting on line with my own response to that FanFic thread, which is a large part of why I avoided direct linking the stories, and simply provided enough details for them to go search for them on their own, on one site or another. :)

With how much MM content there is on FF and AO3 I'd really love to see SOL have an implementation of such things that actually gained some traction so I could just use it instead. AO3 is a case study in story tags run amok, as users and authors alike can apply tags, and there is no "standard" for them to adhere to. FF just lists characters, and sometimes advertises pairings.

Of course on that note, at least for many on the Hairy Pottery side of things, the character pairings themselves might as well be hot codes for many of them. :?

There are large numbers of people who absolutely hate Harry/Ginny, and a mixed number of people who either love or hate Harry/Hermione pairings... And the the sheer quantity of Harry/Draco and Harry/Snape (sexual) pairings is just disturbing. Oddly Harry/Ron seems to be pretty rare, even when they flip genders around for one or the other.

It's a very weird place to visit.

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Ernest Bywater

@Not_a_ID

It's a very weird place to visit.


And probably a weirder place to live.

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Not_a_ID

@Ernest Bywater

And probably a weirder place to live.


Hahaha, I'm probably almost a resident as much of the stuff as I've consumed/encountered. But hearing the horror stories from some of the writers over there it can be pretty funny to listen to. Those are almost holy war items for some people. So for the ones who've written both a Harry/Ginny story and a Harry/Hermione story it's even more hilarious(and sad) as they then have people practically declaring everlasting jihad against them because they wrote a story pairing him off with the other one, and often just going for someone else entirely isn't safe either, because then they'll complain because you didn't include them. No matter what you do in those playgrounds, you're going to get flamed at by someone for something.

Ah, the joys of fan-fiction. People are sometimes too passionate about the subject at hand, and have strong opinions for and against different characters, and it often varies wildly from fan to fan.

whocarez

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

So I can write the name of the story and author but no link right?

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Ernest Bywater

@Not_a_ID

they then have people practically declaring everlasting jihad against them because they wrote a story pairing him off with the other one,


If, very big if, I ever get around to doing a HP FF I'd probably set Harry up with Hermine, Ginny, and Luna as a trio of toys for him. That would get some action going.

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Not_a_ID

@Ernest Bywater

If, very big if, I ever get around to doing a HP FF I'd probably set Harry up with Hermine, Ginny, and Luna as a trio of toys for him. That would get some action going.


They're the most common members of the harem when someone decides to write a Hairy Harem story. :)

Not_a_ID

@whocarez

So I can write the name of the story and author but no link right?


You could probably give them everything they need to pull up a solid direct link from a google search. Just don't make a post with a legion of links to outside sites. ;)

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whocarez

@Not_a_ID

Thanks!

docholladay

@whocarez

So I can write the name of the story and author but no link right?


I get the impression if its in reply to a request for information regarding a particular story it might be allowed if it is not available on SOL. If its available on SOL the local link should always be given.

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Not_a_ID

@docholladay

I get the impression if its in reply to a request for information regarding a particular story it might be allowed if it is not available on SOL. If its available on SOL the local link should always be given.


So linking to a specific story, in response to a (reasonably) specific request for a story not present on SOL is permitted.

But no linking directly to a list of offsite stories in response to a generic request.

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docholladay
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@Not_a_ID

Like I said its just a guess. I have seen links based on theme or similar plots before as well which lead to both local and non-local stories. But all the links were based around the request and comments in that grouping. Now to just suggest going to off site locations by themselves would be disrespectful. Probably like everything else respect goes a long way.

edit to add: Like I have given the actual links at times to other sites when they are mentioned without the link. In which case I try and give the reason I have that site bookmarked.

richardshagrin

@Not_a_ID

Ah, the joys of fan-fiction.


Fan is an abbreviation for "fanatic".
It shouldn't be a surprise that fan-fiction is for fanatics.

Fans are objects for moving hot air to cool somebody. I suppose if the somebodies being cooled are fanatics in an attic, attic fans might cool fanatic fans.

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Switch Blayde

Wal Mart doesn't advertise for Target in their circulars.


Some day watch the movie "Miracle on 34th Street" (but I agree with you)

Switch Blayde

@richardshagrin

It shouldn't be a surprise that fan-fiction is for fanatics.


And horny teenage girls. I think the number 1 fanfic on wattpad is One Direction and having sex with Harry Styles (I think that's his name).

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Not_a_ID

@Switch Blayde

And horny teenage girls. I think the number 1 fanfic on wattpad is One Direction and having sex with Harry Styles (I think that's his name).


Yeah, I kind of presume that's also why there is so much Harry/Draco HP Fanfic out there. Fangirls getting their Yaoi on, even when they have no clue what yaoi is.

But I can't complain too much about the Yaoi when I don't mind the Yuri.

Crumbly Writer

Just noticed this thread. General rule of thumb, it's okay listing isolated stories on other sites, but unless it's a specific request covering a specific authors on various sites (like someone who posts on SOL but has a few on other sites), then just list the site and name.

Similarly, I sometimes list that my books are for sale, since many readers interested in the story are in a hurry to discover how they end. In that case, I simply say "check Amazon" so they can search for the title (they're generally easy to find).

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