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Sequel to winds

Rileyshima

i was wondering if h2owader had written a sequel to winds and if it was published anywhere?

Ernest Bywater

@Rileyshima

i was wondering if h2owader had written a sequel to winds and if it was published anywhere?


This question is often asked, and no one has been able to find an answer yet. There are many people prepared to pay for it if they can find out where to go to get it. If you do get an answer, please let us know!

Grant

@Rileyshima

and if it was published anywhere?

Along with the original Winds which is no longer on this site.

ustourist

@Rileyshima

I was under the impression a sequel had been posted here. Winds: The Way West. Or am I missing something here?
The notes to The Way West included:
"2. If you are new to my novels WINDS, help yourself by reading WINDS before you try to understand what is happening in WINDS: The Way West. I am planning on a Winds III and a Winds IV. The key word is PLANNING. I am spending way to much time on these big novels and ignoring several other projects."

Replies:   Ernest Bywater
Ernest Bywater

@ustourist

Winds: The Way West. Or am I missing something here?


It isn't showing on the author's page, so if you know of anywhere it can be found, many will be grateful to you.

ustourist

@Ernest Bywater

It was posted on SOL in February 2008, which is when I downloaded it, but I have no idea when it was taken down.

LonelyDad

Originally, there was 'Winds' and 'Winds: The Way West'. They were then taken down because the author was going to try to get them published. That apparently didn't work out, and they reappeared together as a revised 'Winds'. It has since again been taken down, AFAIK.

dcole

What is the etiquette if you have a copy of a story that has been removed by the author? Should it be sent to the person looking for it or do we respect the author's wishes/intent and not do anything. I'm not sure.

LonelyDad

@dcole

I don't know. Technically, that is a violation of copyright. I used to supply copies since I have all the versions, under the idea that since he reposted it he was tacitly giving approval, but am not sure any more.

Dominion's Son
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@dcole


What is the etiquette if you have a copy of a story that has been removed by the author? Should it be sent to the person looking for it or do we respect the author's wishes/intent and not do anything. I'm not sure.


As a legal and/or ethical matter, unless the copyright has expired (which is unlikely), you have no right to distribute copies to anyone for any reason.

To be both legal and ethical you would have to treat it like a dead tree book. You can give your legally obtained copy to someone else, but you can't make new copies. That means if you give it to someone else, you have to delete your copy.

Perv Otaku

These days on the net, all kinds of people freely make tv shows available streaming on the theory that they were free on television once, and they aren't charging anything for them so it's not like they are "really" breaking copyright. Although people do the same thing with movies and comics, which definitely were never available free.

Dominions Son

@Perv Otaku

These days on the net, all kinds of people freely make tv shows available streaming on the theory that they were free on television once, and they aren't charging anything for them so it's not like they are "really" breaking copyright.


Yes, they really are breaking copyright. People do all kinds of illegal and/or unethical things on the internet, that doesn't make it OK.

Ernest Bywater

@Perv Otaku

they aren't charging anything for them so it's not like they are "really" breaking copyright


actually, they are breaking the copyright. The TV stations paid a lot to be able to make or air the shows, then the sold them to other outlets for income above the advertising income generated while the shows aired.

It's the same as my stories here at SOL, you can read them here for free, but I still have copyright control of them and get upset when people stick them on other sites without asking permission. To date, everyone whose asked permission has been given it, but I still like to have the final say.

Replies:   richardshagrin
richardshagrin

@Ernest Bywater

I read a lot of them (stories by Ernest either Bywater or Edwards) on Fine Stories. I am pretty sure your SOL permission carries over to another World Publishing site, but in case it does not, I apologize and won't do it again.

Replies:   Ernest Bywater
Ernest Bywater

@richardshagrin

pretty sure your SOL permission carries over to another World Publishing site


Actually, if I want a story on both SOL and FS I have to upload it to both. This is to ensure the author makes a conscientious decision for it to be on each site.

Where I object is when a pay to view anything but a brief view site like NXXX (name is something like that) puts it up without approval, and then refuses to take it down.

Replies:   richardshagrin
richardshagrin

@Ernest Bywater

If it is xnxx I believe KaHmnd who posts here on SOL now, got his stories taken down. He still has some by Kenneth Hammond on xnxx, last time I looked. I am pretty sure he no longer posts there under either pen name.

Replies:   Ernest Bywater
Ernest Bywater

@richardshagrin

xnxx


Yep, that's the site. I never posted any of my stuff or Cazna's stuff there, but a few stories turned up there. I requested they be removed but since I wasn't the original poster of them on their site they refused to do anything.

chrissutherland43

that's because xnxx.com is operated by a bunch of drunk monkeys on crack.

Crumbly Writer
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@Ernest Bywater


It isn't showing on the author's page, so if you know of anywhere it can be found, many will be grateful to you.

I remember when the series was first posted, and I remember all three of the first books being posted to SOL before they were taken down. As stated, the author got a contract to publish them via a traditional publisher, who required him to take down all other copies (they also often demand ALL other work by the author be removed from other sources (i.e. online)). However, the publisher retracted the offer or there was an unexpected complication and it was never published.

He then tried to publish it on his own, but I never saw it appear, and he never posted any links to it, so I'm not sure why he never reposted it.

It's always been one of my all-time favorite stories, and I'd love for others to experience it. But then, authors take down stories for all kinds of reasons. At least he didn't 'get religion' or marry someone who demanded he 'stop posting porn'. But no matter his reason, he didn't want his story read anymore, and we should respect is wishes.

In my own case, I'm now debating unpublishing my earlier works, as they no longer reflect my current writing style, and I'm not sure they'll reflect well on my other stories if someone purchases them. However, even if I did that, I wouldn't try to remove the books from circulation (which is impossible anyway).

By the way, a similar situation occurred with "WineMaker", who published a great story about a lesbian cop who gets romantically involved with a straight couple during an investigation. He followed that up with several more focused on the cop, though he dropped the other characters.

He too got a publishing contract, and removed the stories, but the book was never published, and I've never seen him on the site after that. Another great author lost to the great unknown.

Just went back and checked my old SOL libraries (where I copied the old stories I followed) and discovered I lost the entire collection to a disk/computer failure years ago, so I no longer have copies of any of those files anymore. Sigh!

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