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a lost story of magic

geo1951

a middle aged man finds some decorative finials in an antique store.he takes them home and somehow he releases the magic locked within.
it is a very long story.they learn to make dragons,go back in time to meet merlin. family fights and splits.
i am hoping someone else remembers it, and it hasn't been removed from the site.

Replies:   sharkjcw  Grizz
sharkjcw

@geo1951

http://storiesonline.net/s/13859/never-ever-give-up

geo1951

thankyou for your reply ,but that is not it. it was a very long story.one of his daughters ends up going back in time,meets merlin and marries him.

Grizz

@geo1951

I think The Magic Way A New Life by The Mage, may be the one you are looking for.

Unfortunately it appears to have been removed.

Replies:   geo1951
geo1951

@Grizz

thankyou for your reply.the magic way sounds correct

Crumbly Writer

Just a wayward suggestion for Lazeez (since I'm not sending it to him specifically) but maybe we need a public listing of authors' stories which have been removed over time. That would help in identifying stories which are no longer available, help readers relocate them, and identify authors who habitually pull stories.

Sometimes authors pull stories which don't work, or which they want to rework, so one or two missing stories wouldn't be a big deal, but if a large percentage of the authors' works are incomplete or missing over time, readers would know to avoid them. (Though, if an author quits in disgust, that's useful to readers as well.)

Jay Cantrell

I have seen such a list somewhere. Perhaps in the personal library. If not, look around. A list of removed stories is accessible.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son

@Jay Cantrell

I have seen such a list somewhere. Perhaps in the personal library. If not, look around. A list of removed stories is accessible.


That's not a complete list, only the 100 or so most recent.

Replies:   Crumbly Writer  Theodor
Crumbly Writer

@Dominions Son

That's not a complete list, only the 100 or so most recent.

Currently, it goes back to March 2016, but lists stories which never successfully posted. Unfortunately, Lazeez says the true list is 14,000+ stories long, so listing it in its entirely is impossible.

Replies:   richardshagrin  Wheezer
richardshagrin

@Crumbly Writer

Nothing is impossible for the person who doesn't have to do it.

For a small fee, perhaps $10 per story, a listing could be made available if someone cared enough to pay $140,000. On the other hand if only authors of removed stories were listed, the fee could easily be less than $100,000. Should we take up a collection?

Replies:   paliden
Wheezer

@Crumbly Writer

Unfortunately, Lazeez says the true list is 14,000+ stories long, so listing it in its entirely is impossible.


Err, if Lazeez knows that the list is 14,000+ stories, then that means the list already exists in some form. It may not be practical to convert it into a form accessible to readers, but not impossible. There may be other reasons for not making it available.

Replies:   Ernest Bywater
Ernest Bywater

@Wheezer

There may be other reasons for not making it available.


The first reason I can think of is a story with multiple entries that was deleted, and not worth the trouble to unclog the list.

Take a certain author who posted teasers here. The first time he posted the stories would be entered into the system with a number say number 10001. Then they get deleted, many months later he was reinstated, and posted the stories again, number 20002, repeat of previous actions before he goes down for the third time. All his stories posted 3 times with different numbers, so that's 3 sets in the list. The master list needs them all listed to account for the numbers, but do they need to be shown 3 times in the list available to the public, and should the band width required for it be taken up. With so many instead of a straight chronological list it would have to be sorted by letter, and that's extra code and processing. easier to just show a subset based on the last x months, or x entries deleted.

Replies:   ustourist
ustourist

@Ernest Bywater

There could also be confusion with stories by authors who used several names then later withdrew and consolidated them under one (or more) of their nom de plumes - rache would be a good example, but there are others.
Those authors who subsequently edited and reposted would also be identified as being habitually prone to pulling stories, which would be an unfair label when they are actually improving what was previously posted.
Bear in mind that Lazeez list would probably include stories that were reported as plagiarized and removed, plus those that failed moderation, and also potentially the spam that was stopped before posting, depending on how that list is generated.
Since it seems that in the majority of cases the 'lost' stories are identified as having been removed by others responding to a request for details of a name and author, producing the list is unlikely to reduce the number of requests much, if at all. I am sure in most cases the person responding checks to see if it is still available before posting a reply, so the only difference would be which list was searched for that particular author and story name. Since stories are pulled and reposted, they would still have to check the current list first.

Replies:   Ernest Bywater
Ernest Bywater

@ustourist

Those authors who subsequently edited and reposted would also be identified as being habitually prone to pulling stories,


In general, that doesn't happen with a repost, because it replaces the story file while keeping the same number. However, a couple of times a story has been well and truly messed in the initial posting and had to be deleted and reposted as a new posting, they will also clog the works. Thus it's probably more work than it's worth.

paliden
Updated:

@richardshagrin

What about this link and Lazeez's statement

http://storiesonline.net/d/s6/t1460/list-of-abandoned-or-yanked-stories

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

9/12/2016, 1:02:07 PM

@Crumbly Writer

Is that a buffer overflow, limiting the list to only the most recent, or when you began keeping track?

The list is limited to the most recent 100 stories. There are 4,544 entries in the deleted stories table.

Replies: Crumbly Writer

Crumbly Writer

9/12/2016, 1:05:33 PM

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

The list is limited to the most recent 100 stories. There are 4,544 entries in the deleted stories table.

Yeah, that's worth limiting. Though the 'never passed submission' entries aren't terribly vital. :)

Ok, somehow I got it wrong. This statement was intended for CW, my apologies

Replies:   Crumbly Writer
ustourist

@Ernest Bywater

Thanks for the clarification about usually keeping the same number.

Crumbly Writer

@Ernest Bywater

n general, that doesn't happen with a repost, because it replaces the story file while keeping the same number. However, a couple of times a story has been well and truly messed in the initial posting and had to be deleted and reposted as a new posting, they will also clog the works. Thus it's probably more work than it's worth.

There are also many cases, where an initial story is rewritten/restructured so it no longer fits in the same structure (i.e. instead of five books, it's now five, or instead of three, it's now twelve). In those cases, it's more common to delete the story in its entirety, rewrite the entire thing, and then repost it as several books in a series. Thus you've physically deleted multiple books and removed them from view for an indefinite period.

Replies:   Ernest Bywater
Crumbly Writer

@paliden

Ok, somehow I got it wrong. This statement was intended for CW, my apologies

No, he was answering my question, but the answer was for everyone, as he was repeating his procedure. He treats his "deleted/removed story list" exactly like his "favorite stories list", only listing the top 100 entries rather than producing hundreds of pages no one is interested in.

Ideally, I'd prefer a more refined list of ONLY those stories yanked, but beggers can't be choosers. I'm happy with what we have, though a list of less than a full year doesn't help discover what happened to the older authors on the site.

Ernest Bywater

@Crumbly Writer

There are also many cases, where an initial story is rewritten/restructured so it no longer fits in the same structure (i.e. instead of five books, it's now five, or instead of three, it's now twelve). In those cases, it's more common to delete the story in its entirety, rewrite the entire thing, and then repost it as several books in a series. Thus you've physically deleted multiple books and removed them from view for an indefinite period.


CW, there are three situation you can have in this.

1. Which I do a lot of. I revise the story and re-post it , and it has the same story number, just some different text.

2. I revise the story and post it as five chapters in stead of four chapters. I can do this and it keeps the same story number, they just add an extra chapter to the story file.

3. I want to totally revise how the story was done and break it up differently. I can delete the story and post all new stories, and thus lose the stats as well. Or I can change the title and post the revised part that this now relates to, and then post the new parts as new stories.

In all three I can keep the old story number if I do a re-post of that story number. but I lose it if I totally delete and post as if a new story.

Theodor

@Dominions Son

Is it publicly accessible for you to link?

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son

@Theodor

Probably not.

The list of removed stories is under My Library which is a premium feature, so the link would probably only work for premium members who don't really need it.

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