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ian181 ๐Ÿšซ

Who can remember reading their first erotic novel. Mine was A Garden of Sand by Earl Thomas.

gmontgomery ๐Ÿšซ

The Story of "O"

miksmit ๐Ÿšซ

Jan by dorsai

Wheezer ๐Ÿšซ

Autobiography of a Flea or Fanny Hill. Not sure which I read first.

1111 ๐Ÿšซ

Lady Chatterly's Lover but I didn't understand what the fuss was all about. Didn't do anything for me. Maybe I was just dense.
All I remember was the first time I got hold of a cheap paperback of sex stories, I can't remember title or anything of it, I was walking around hard for a whole week.

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sejintenej ๐Ÿšซ

@1111

Lady Chatterly's Lover but I didn't understand what the fuss was all about. Didn't do anything for me. Maybe I was just dense.

In its day it was very "advanced", almost explosive. When the trial ended and the book could be legally published we asked our housemaster (a one-legged bear-sized man) if he was going to read it. His answer was 'no, he was going to wait for the film'! The book was in the school library but you couldn't get to it without (the unavailable) written permission.

Vincent Berg ๐Ÿšซ

I honestly can't remember which was my first, but my favorites were "Behind the Green Door" (the book, not the movie) and the stories of Anais Nin (who got paid $1/page to write porn for private collectors). The first was just plain hot, while the latter was beautifully written--extremely rare for porn of any kind!

red61544 ๐Ÿšซ
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The Short Stories of Guy de Maupassant. Today, they probably wouldn't be considered erotic, but in 1957, to a twelve year old boy, they were hot! When I discovered Henry Miller and "The Tropic of Cancer" and later Anais Nin, I put aside de Maupassant's stories for better things. I spent a lot of time from my twelfth summer through my fourteenth in the public library because I didn't dare take those books home. My parents had company one night and my father proudly mentioned how much time I spent at the library reading. When the guests asked what I liked to read, I got a bad case of the wellas, like in "well-a, well-a, well-a...." My days in the library practically ended when I realized that, at our public swimming pool, there were actual live girls in swimsuits who I could look at and they were more exciting than the words my eyes feasted on in the library.

Argon ๐Ÿšซ
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I think the first erotic book I ever read was a novel by Jean Hougron, Soleil au ventre. It is out of print these days. It tells the story of a French truck driver with a shady past who gets embroiled in the first Indochina war. He is captured by the Viet Minh together with a French businessman and his beautiful Vietnamese wife. The fellow prisoners bribe the Viet Minh commander to be released, leaving the truck driver behind. He escapes anyway during an air raid on the prison camp and finds the young woman in Saigon. He manages to seduce her and talks her into abandoning her husband, but the husband commits suicide and the young wife leaves her lover feeling guilty. The sex scenes are extremly tame by today's standards, but hell, I was twelve at the time and I re-read the naughty scenes time and again.

sunseeker ๐Ÿšซ

Xaviera Hollander - The Happy Hooker

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Vincent Berg ๐Ÿšซ

@sunseeker

Xaviera Hollander - The Happy Hooker

Don't forget the cartoons in the 'funny page' in each Playboy magazine (for all those of us who never once read a single article in Playboy).

Hell, when I was in college, "The Hite Report" was required reading for guys (dictated by our girlfriends). Damn, it was a real page turner! I never knew women had so many different ways to masterbate. Until then, I thought women always had to be talked into sex (via pleading) and plied with alcohol. It was a real eye opener. However, her book on Male Sexuality wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.

@demonmaster62

Before I ever got to "discover" erotic books, my education came early in the form of "Penthouse Forum" My dad had a big trunk full of Hustler's and Penthouse's.

I used to love the Penthouse Forum letters, until I finally figured out the best straight porn was written by professional gay men, and the best romances by lesbian authors. I still enjoyed them after that, but I never looked at the so-called 'real life' letters the same way again.

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sunseeker ๐Ÿšซ
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@Vincent Berg

lol, dad had the playboy etc locked up in their bedroom...had no idea how The Happy Hooker ended up on the bookshelf in the basement,,,but I enjoyed it!

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Vincent Berg ๐Ÿšซ

@sunseeker

lol, dad had the playboy etc locked up in their bedroom...had no idea how The Happy Hooker ended up on the bookshelf in the basement,,,but I enjoyed it!

My father was clever, he put a couple sex ed books on the family bookshelf (it was fairly large, so you wouldn't notice immediately). Each of us kids read the thing cover to cover. That's much easier than holding awkward conversations that no kid wants to hear. According to the NY Times, the majority of teenagers are now getting their sex education directly from online porn since they can't trust the nonsense taught in the sex-ed classes in every school in the country!

Given the fallacies found in many SOL stories, I find that disturbing, but not as bothersome as what the Texas Board of Ed (which dictates what's included in the Nation's sex-ed schoolbooks) offers.

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Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Vincent Berg

Given the fallacies found in many SOL stories, I find that disturbing, but not as bothersome as what the Texas Board of Ed (which dictates what's included in the Nation's sex-ed schoolbooks) offers.

Unless your school district follows the California Board of Ed.

Two states pretty much dictate the content of all of our primary ed text books, Texas and California. Both are heavily biased, in opposite directions.

I'm sure the CA sex ed books are much more interesting than the TX versions. Not sure if they would be any better by an objective criteria though.

Sure, the CA texts teach more about contraceptives and "safe sex". But do they bother to even think about teaching the kids anything about how to decide when they are ready to become sexually active.

The big problem is that the schools teach facts and figures, but nobody these days even tries to teach them how to be adults and make halfway rational decisions for themselves. Not the schools and not their parents.

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docholladay ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

They do need actual facts about sex. From all the different points. How to decide if they are really ready? What are the risks both pregnancy and disease? I admit those are just the very tip of the iceberg of information needed, but it should be covered in an honest and factual manner.

Then again I have had arguments about the abortion issue because of my non-standard view on the matter.
Namely first off: I do not have the right to force the choice on the Woman/Girl who is pregnant. Second the only right I have is to make sure that as far as possible they have all the information available about both options even the option of adopting the baby out. Sure I would prefer the baby be born, but like I said its not my right to force that choice. Sure does get some good arguments going at times.

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Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@docholladay

They do need actual facts about sex. From all the different points. How to decide if they are really ready? What are the risks both pregnancy and disease? I admit those are just the very tip of the iceberg of information needed, but it should be covered in an honest and factual manner.

I agree, but the CA curriculum falls short of that.

They gloss over the fact that contraception is not 100% effective. Even surgical sterilization has a measurable failure rate.

They gloss over the fact that what they push as "safe sex" practices are no guarantee of preventing STD infection if you are having regular sex with an infected partner.

docholladay ๐Ÿšซ
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@Dominions Son

I agree, but the CA curriculum falls short of that.

Very few if any actually meet the goal of properly preparing the young. Although I have heard that Canada at least tries to properly prepare them, I have no first hand information on that.

Bad factor is until they are properly educated without prejudice or other goals. They will continue to make the same mistakes all the previous generations did including gathering information from their peers. Without true information there will continue to be major problems with teen pregnancies probably leading the percentages. That is the fault of not just the teachers but everyone else, no one or group is without blame.

edited to add:
I knew of at least one abortion clinic which took the extreme step of making sure all patients had as complete an understanding of all their options plus made them watch recording of an actual abortion. One of my second cousins who was raped decided to have her baby adopted out as a result of that clinic's policy. Everyone in the family left the final decision up to her.

Vincent Berg ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

They gloss over the fact that contraception is not 100% effective. Even surgical sterilization has a measurable failure rate.

I think the fact that most women know someone who got pregnant while using protection, they're perfectly aware there is no guarantee of protection.

Yes, there are failures in surgical sterilization, but the risks aren't considered statistically significant. What is risky when discussing statistics with kids, is that all the birth control numbers are effected by 'self-reporting' flaws. There are a significant number of women who intentionally get pregnant in order to 'trap' the man into getting married, but abjected deny they did so. This is especially true for rubbers, hence the number of stories of someone poking holes in the ends.

By the way, both my daughters were guilty of that trick, though their husbands never discovered the truth (though I suspect they suspect the truth).

By the way, part deux, a new report today reported that the incidence of 'the mailman's baby', of men being cuckolded and raising another man's baby are grossly overrated. Like lying about protection, it happens, but it's nowhere near as widespread as men have assumed for centuries (Shakespeare joked about the subject in his plays).

They gloss over the fact that what they push as "safe sex" practices are no guarantee of preventing STD infection if you are having regular sex with an infected partner.

Hence the new emphasis on just how little children know about STDs. If your school only teaches complete abstinence, and STDs are only mention to scare the kids, then they learn knowing about how STDs are transmitted.

Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Vincent Berg

I think the fact that most women know someone who got pregnant while using protection, they're perfectly aware there is no guarantee of protection.

Do you think that's true for teen girls 14-16?

Hence the new emphasis on just how little children know about STDs. If your school only teaches complete abstinence, and STDs are only mention to scare the kids, then they learn knowing about how STDs are transmitted.

Even kids that get the CA curriculum which ignores abstinence entirely aren't learning that much about how STDs are transmitted. All they get is Do X,Y,Z and you can have as much sex as you want and be safe.

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Vincent Berg ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

Do you think that's true for teen girls 14-16?

Frankly, I do. Women talk, and even younger kids hear the whispered conversations. They may not know their full range of options, but women are very aware of the risks, just as they're fully aware of the continuous risk of violent rape.

Even kids that get the CA curriculum which ignores abstinence entirely aren't learning that much about how STDs are transmitted.

Granted, it's been many years since my last sex ed class, but I remember getting the full run down on each sexual disease. They key, though, is that few kids could keep their eyes open for it as it was such a downer! That's not a problem with the education, it's a lesson in humanity, and how we continue to deny anything that's upsetting. How you get past that, and fully engage students is a difficult questions. Unfortunately, most teachers who go above and beyond in the field of sex education get bounced from job to job, and soon quit the field. It's simply not worth investing much time in.

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graybyrd ๐Ÿšซ
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@Vincent Berg

it's a lesson in humanity, and how we continue to deny anything that's upsetting.

Amen! On a parallel note, I spent four years in a very small high school staring at a big poster high on the wall behind our science & health teacher's desk. It showed a face whose lips and cheeks were cankered and oozing, and right in the middle was a diseased tongue, ulcerated, raw and oozing blood. It was from smoking and the resultant cancer.

This was during the early 1950s. Almost every boy in that school, and maybe a quarter of the girls, smoked. Everybody ignored that poster, except we kept wishing that Mr. Heldt would take the damned thing down! Jeez, it was ugly!

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Vincent Berg

By the way, part deux, a new report today reported that the incidence of 'the mailman's baby', of men being cuckolded and raising another man's baby are grossly overrated. Like lying about protection, it happens, but it's nowhere near as widespread as men have assumed for centuries (Shakespeare joked about the subject in his plays).

Justin Welby, Archbishop of Canterbury. Prince Harry. ;)

AJ

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Vincent Berg ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

Justin Welby, Archbishop of Canterbury. Prince Harry.

The story wasn't based on individual accusations, but large scale studies (no real stats on this) which checked DNA results in existing families.

demonmaster62 ๐Ÿšซ

Before I ever got to "discover" erotic books, my education came early in the form of "Penthouse Forum" My dad had a big trunk full of Hustler's and Penthouse's. Even at the ripe old age of 15 I could tell the difference in just plain smut (Hustler) and at least an attempt at a more literary approach, I'm talking mid '70's here. If you could get past all of the "Amputee" sex letters, the rest were quite good, with some even leaving a little for the imagination to expound on. The thought of even trying to search out a whole book of erotica would have paled in comparison to what I was already reading in secrecy.

As an aside, reading all of those letters in forum helped me visualise just what I wanted to do when I had my "first time" which came just a couple months short of my 17th birthday. I must have done something right, as my first was known to be a cold fish. We were each other's first, and I used every trick that I had visualised from those letters. After that, I never had to beg for sex in our relationship, as she always and frequently made the first move after that first time. Not kidding at all.

KimLittle ๐Ÿšซ

Captain Blood by Michael Blodgett.

Review here: http://www.fright.com/edge/CaptainBlood.htm

tppm ๐Ÿšซ

I don't know if this was the first I read, but one of the earliest stories I remember reading is "Trapped, Tied, and Only 12" a dead tree book I read sometime in the 70s. I also liked the family letters from Penthouse Letters.

anandu ๐Ÿšซ

I have been lucky to have an older brother who was reading alot of erotic books.

The first one I snatched from his stash was H. de Balzac's 'Les contes drolatique'
Followed by the Story of O and
Emmanuelle

Was 14 then ๐Ÿ˜‰

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docholladay ๐Ÿšซ
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@anandu

I can't remember the first one I read. It was one my mom thought she had hidden in a safe spot for her own reading.

At least I never was dumb enough to get caught like my kid brother did at the old age of 8 years old. He had the neighbor's 7 year old girl in mom's bed trying to play the adult version of "Momma and PaPa". They were caught in the act by Mom who was supposed to be working.

edited to add: As an adult my kid brother was still dumb. In his 30's he took off to Florida with his boss's wife in his boss's brand new car. His boss charged him with "Grand theft Auto". Of course the cops caught up with my brother and his boss's wife.

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Wheezer ๐Ÿšซ

@docholladay

edited to add: As an adult my kid brother was still dumb. In his 30's he took off to Florida with his boss's wife in his boss's brand new car. His boss charged him with "Grand theft Auto". Of course the cops caught up with my brother and his boss's wife.

Boss got his car back. Did he let your brother keep the wife?

Replies:   docholladay
docholladay ๐Ÿšซ

@Wheezer

My brother was just having fun and beat the charge. His wife gave my brother the keys, so not a theft since the car fell into the community property factor. Not sure what happened to the wife, but my brother lost that job. He was always that way however with females. I was never sure if it was a blessing or a curse.

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Vincent Berg ๐Ÿšซ

@docholladay

He was always that way however with females. I was never sure if it was a blessing or a curse.

It all depends on how long it takes you to find the next job.

whatsizname ๐Ÿšซ
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I believe the first erotic story I read was "Pretty Maids All In A Row" by Francis Pollini. Yeah, I read Playboy and Penthouse, but at the time I was interested in mysteries, and this book kinda tugged at me.

As far as sex ed goes, I guess I was lucky. My parents decided to "educate" us by getting us to read a book that was explicit (for the 60's) and answering questions. The problem with their approach was that we were a little young for it then and couldn't ask the right questions. Still, beats what the school tried to teach a few years later.

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